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I really want to know how many average Americans even remember, without prompting, that Trump sent out a check. I don't know how you poll for that though, since even asking the question is a reminder.
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:I really want to know how many average Americans even remember, without prompting, that Trump sent out a check. I don't know how you poll for that though, since even asking the question is a reminder. Yes, people are famously forgetful about getting money from the government via check. Which is why no one ever remembers George W. Bush doing the same thing. Totally forgotten!
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Nov 15, 2021 00:39
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Anyone remember any of the of other jaw dropping focus groups/indepth voter opinion articles that have been done the last few years? It seems like there's been a few, especially since the rise of Trump, that were just straight up 
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Fame Douglas posted:Yes, people are famously forgetful about getting money from the government via check. Which is why no one ever remembers George W. Bush doing the same thing. Totally forgotten! I did forget Dubya sent one out actually lol
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Nov 15, 2021 00:48
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RBA Starblade posted:I did forget Dubya sent one out actually lol He actually sent out 3.
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Nov 15, 2021 00:50
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If you want people to remember government programs you have to name them something catchy, like Cash For Clunkers.
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Nov 15, 2021 00:59
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Lager posted:If you want people to remember government programs you have to name them something catchy, like Cash For Clunkers. ooh, we need a jingle quick, somebody better whip up the BBB version of 1-877-KARS4KIDS
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Nov 15, 2021 01:01
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Lager posted:If you want people to remember government programs you have to name them something catchy, like Cash For Clunkers. That's where Bush screwed up. The 2001 Economic Growth and Job Reconciliation Act Rebate, the 2003 Jobs and Growth Reconciliation Tax Rebate Distribution, and the 2008 Emergency Economic Stimulus Payments don't roll off the tongue like Cash for Clunkers or Reagonomics. Most people probably did forget that he sent 3 series of stimulus checks to Americans (and a bonus 4th round that just went to retirees and veterans).
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Nov 15, 2021 01:05
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Lager posted:If you want people to remember government programs you have to name them something catchy, like Cash For Clunkers. Obamacare, obamaphones. Thanks Obama.
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Nov 15, 2021 01:07
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Sanguinia posted:Your premise that the American Public's opinions on the bill would be any different if its creation wasn't such a sausage factory process is based on nothing. I have no reason to believe they would be treating it any differently or be any more educated about what's actually in the bill regardless of how much was being cut or what benefits are being negotiated out. I also have no reason to believe they wouldn't cling to their ignorance even while getting those benefits and vote for people to dismantle them even if there hadn't been a single thing cut from its original version. id submit that part of the issue at this point is that it has become less "sausage making" and more "butchering a live, screaming horse in public and acting confused about why the vibes are so bad"
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Nov 15, 2021 01:12
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Pobrecito posted:this entirely ignores reality What's your point exactly? Of course, industrialized nations have high emissions! Answer me this, are US emissions increasing, decrease or remaining stable?
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Nov 15, 2021 01:13
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:What's your point exactly? Of course, industrialized nations have high emissions! Answer me this, are US emissions increasing, decrease or remaining stable? A miniscule drop doesn't matter at all and won't save the planet. The US is doing pretty much nothing and has extremely high emissions per capita compared to other developed nations.
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Nov 15, 2021 01:15
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Fame Douglas posted:A miniscule drop doesn't matter at all and won't save the planet. The US is doing pretty much nothing and has extremely high emissions per capita compared to other developed nations. To be fair, the planet doesn't really care about per capita emissions. The U.S. could go to 0 emissions today and it wouldn't save the planet if the other 87% of emissions produced by the world didn't as well. So, if you set the bar at "won't save the planet," then anything short of an enforceable global accord is going to fail that test.
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Nov 15, 2021 01:25
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Fame Douglas posted:A miniscule drop doesn't matter at all and won't save the planet. The US is doing pretty much nothing and has extremely high emissions per capita compared to other developed nations. This isn't true at all, emissions in the United States have been declining over a decade. This isn't minuscule by any use of the word. And of course, our emissions are higher compared to other developed nations because the US is so automobile dependent but thankfully that's beginning to change as well. Analysis: Why US carbon emissions have fallen 14% since 2005
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Nov 15, 2021 01:26
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2020 was end times and EVERYONE on all sides was basically on board to throw out some emergency stimulus. Calling it "Trumps Check" like he masterminded the entire thing is a massive stretch. Biden could send out $5,000 checks to all the whining dipshits and they still would craft a way to fart into their hands and not vote.
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Nov 15, 2021 01:33
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Rochallor posted:Gee, I wonder if there was a connection between Trump giving everybody $1800 and him picking up 12 million votes over 2016. 23 million more people voted than before, while the Green and Libertarian parties lost several million votes compared to 2016. It was a high-turnout election, affected by several major factors - particularly widespread vote-by-mail. That is why, even though Trump got 12 million votes more than before, he lost by more than double the popular vote margin that he'd won by in 2016. Besides, a lot of political events happened from 2016 to 2020. Including a loving worldwide pandemic that killed 350k people in 2020, caused massive disruptions to American lifestyles, and sparked an entirely new front of the culture war.
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Nov 15, 2021 01:33
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:This isn't true at all, emissions in the United States have been declining over a decade. This isn't minuscule by any use of the word. And of course, our emissions are higher compared to other developed nations because the US is so automobile dependent but thankfully that's beginning to change as well. Yes, and now look at other developed nations and realize their emissions fell by much more than the minuscule amount the US has reduced emissions. And the US being automobile dependent doesn't seem to be changing at all, investment in public transit is laughable.
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:ooh, we need a jingle People have been put before the ICC at The Hague for less.
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Fame Douglas posted:Yes, and now look at other developed nations and realize their emissions fell by much more than the minuscule amount the US has reduced emissions. The energy challenges bringing US Emissions down by over 10% while increasing energy consumption by any sense of word "miniscule" is not at all accurate. In fact, it's great the US is doing this now because this also puts the Country in a position to distribute renewable and low carbon technology to developing countries. Fame Douglas posted:And the US being automobile dependent doesn't seem to be changing at all, investment in public transit is laughable. It is laughable but Portland, Minneapolis and even Austin are urbanizing even with freaking Los Angeles! Check out their recent updates to changes in zoning. They are literally some parts of the city that have their own separate bike line just like Germany or Amsterdam!
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Nov 15, 2021 01:43
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:The energy challenges bringing US Emissions down by over 10% while increasing energy consumption by any sense of word "miniscule" is not at all accurate. In fact, it's great the US is doing this now because this also puts the Country in a position to distribute renewable and low carbon technology to developing countries. It's literally not impressive at all and way less than other countries have done. Do Americans always need a participation trophy where they get a special award and commendations for doing a bad job?
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Nov 15, 2021 01:48
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:It is laughable but Portland, Minneapolis and even Austin are urbanizing even with freaking Los Angeles! Check out their recent updates to changes in zoning. They are literally some parts of the city that have their own separate bike line just like Germany or Amsterdam! as an aside its really funny to me that the latest subway expansion in LA keeps getting delayed because theyre digging under La Brea and keep having to stop because the project suddenly becomes an archeology site because they found a whole-rear end giant sloth skeleton or something
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Nov 15, 2021 01:49
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Things are progressing as stupidly and slowly as ever but dont give up keep trying! I actually believe this, just throwing a bone to the younger leftists. Violent reactive action won't save us.
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Nov 15, 2021 01:52
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Fame Douglas posted:It's literally not impressive at all and way less than other countries have done. Do Americans always need a special participation trophy where they get a special award and commendations for doing a bad job? I never said they were impressive I don't think American's should get a participation trophy either. It is however not at all true that the reductions that have taken place in the United States are miniscule. Which Country are you comparing to the United States?
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God Elon Musk is such a huge poo poo https://twitter.com/tvaziri/status/1459949628741210114?s=21
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CNN.com's headline story is a piece on how dysfunctional Biden's relationship with Harris is. Wonderful! I'm sure I've got my own layer of biases to break through, but she's giving off big Selina Meyer vibes here. https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/14/politics/kamala-harris-frustrating-start-vice-president/index.html Fame Douglas posted:It's literally not impressive at all and way less than other countries have done. Do Americans always need a participation trophy where they get a special award and commendations for doing a bad job? We really are the biggest bunch of snowflakes.
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The CNN story, which is supposed to be sympathetic to Harris, makes Selena Meyer look like a political genius in comparison.
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:ooh, we need a jingle Ftfy
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Eric Cantonese posted:CNN.com's headline story is a piece on how dysfunctional Biden's relationship with Harris is. Wonderful! It's a shame we're probably stuck with Harris as VP for Biden's 2024 re-election campaign as well. Some new blood in the VP spot could really help reinvigorate perception of the Dems in 2024 and (hopefully) the second leg of Biden's administration and also give people the notion that the Dems were thinking seriously about 2028. Maybe someone who could do what Sarah Palin did for McCain or someone like Obama after his 2004 DNC speech (e: no not him, no CIA allowed) or really, anyone that's a good orator, has solid media training, and is good on the issues. -Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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marshmonkey posted:God Elon Musk is such a huge poo poo https://twitter.com/tvaziri/status/1459949628741210114?s=21 What's funny is that Bernie most definitely lives rent free in Musk's mind.
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-Blackadder- posted:It's a shame we're probably stuck with Harris as VP for Biden's 2024 re-election campaign as well. Some new blood in the VP spot could really help reinvigorate perception of the Dems in 2024 and (hopefully) the second leg of Biden's administration and also give people the notion that the Dems were thinking seriously about 2028. Yes. Imagine the zest a Pete Buttegeig VP nom would bring to the ticket. 
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Gatts posted:Yes. Imagine the zest a Pete Buttegeig VP nom would bring to the ticket.
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marshmonkey posted:God Elon Musk is such a huge poo poo https://twitter.com/tvaziri/status/1459949628741210114?s=21 isnt Musk a foreign national? like he should really shut the gently caress up about US pol/news imo.
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PhazonLink posted:isnt Musk a foreign national? like he should really shut the gently caress up about US pol/news imo. I regret to inform you he is an American citizen.
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PhazonLink posted:isnt Musk a foreign national? like he should really shut the gently caress up about US pol/news imo. I mean he lives here and he makes all his money here, that part isn't weird He's a monstrous piece of poo poo and I'd be banned if I posted what I thought he deserved for his many crimes, but treating Bernie Sanders with disdain is totally understandable. Sanders isn't gonna do poo poo about Musk, he's just whining ineffectually(or his social media intern is, in this case) as usual and it is extremely cringe
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drat so we cant send him back to his parent's African gem mine? oh and refill and bury him in the deepest part?
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Bizarro Watt posted:What's funny is that Bernie most definitely lives rent free in Musk's mind. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1460051518124699650 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1460044780549910532 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1459997838679629830 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1459904966194253824
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RBA Starblade posted:I did forget Dubya sent one out actually lol Same, lol.
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:I mean he lives here and he makes all his money here, that part isn't weird Love your energy but what's the justification on hating on Bernie? There's been good posts about the necessity of the kind of social policies he CONSTANTLY CONSISTENTLY talks about, and it bridges the gaps in what will help the masses.
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