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mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

FLIPADELPHIA posted:

30 minutes. They only need 1 minute but t least one juror will say "maybe we shouldn't be too quick about it"

So hung jury and a mistrial is the best we can hope for out of this right?

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Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1460341867707613192?s=20
Fuckity bye Bannon :kheldragar: :kheldragar: :kheldragar: :kheldragar:

Kavros
May 18, 2011

sleep sleep sleep
fly fly post post
sleep sleep sleep

Bet you he already out to chill at home

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

mango sentinel posted:

So hung jury and a mistrial is the best we can hope for out of this right?

pretty much. there might be one person who holds out but I'm sure the judge will bring hell itself upon them

Cranappleberry
Jan 27, 2009

Mellow Seas posted:

Kraftwerk made a great post about this over the weekend which I'll quote in full here:

I missed that one. Thank you!

There was someone (might have been kratfwerk again) who posted about working in chemical supply and how the issues with logistics were a longtime coming and about some of the current issues they are facing. They also talked about the GOP capitalizing on it.

Interestingly, (and I realize I'm preaching to the choir in this thread), the US government has propped up the logistics and other systems to create such variety and plenty for american consumers but most importantly help businesses thrive.

It's not corporate socialism but it ain't laissez faire capitalism. Massive amounts of corporate welfare in addition to support. Yet it routinely reaches breaking points and whoever is in charge can't deal with it except through providing more welfare to companies, which in turn makes things progressively worse.

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
Russia blowin poo poo up in space, just to see if they can.

https://twitter.com/carlfranzen/status/1460378520107028490?s=20

https://twitter.com/SecBlinken/status/1460382301783797763?s=20

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
Okay if they're actually doing that that's extremely bad

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Kavros posted:

Bet you he already out to chill at home

if so seems like it would be worth finding reporting on

edit also yeah testing one of those weapons that way is bad and developing it is bad and having it is bad

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person


How many events like this would it take to put everything in LEO in extreme danger? I'm not sure if that's a meaningful question.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

A big flaming stink posted:

Okay if they're actually doing that that's extremely bad

Humans are a dumb species

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

LionArcher posted:

I don't agree with everything here, but in general this feels right to me. A lot of the "left" on twitter stuff folks I've been around are extremely out of touch with "common" folks. take the extreme left takes on some of the feminism gender stuff.

What are some of these extreme left takes

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1460306717154099209

Likely candidates are:

D Side

Pete Welch
Becca Balint

R Side

???

Scott is the only Republican candidate that had a shot at winning, so it will probably be some state Representative or self-funding businessperson.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

There Bias Two posted:

How many events like this would it take to put everything in LEO in extreme danger? I'm not sure if that's a meaningful question.

We literally don't know but it's a "find out" that is not worth the "gently caress around"

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Fame Douglas posted:

Humans are a dumb species

Thank you President Putin for doing your part to quarantine humanity, the scourge of the galaxy, before we become an interstellar pandemic.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
International Space Station evacuated.

The debris from the weapon test will likely last "years" and there is no way to track the long-term trajectory of all of the pieces. As of now, they have confirmed ~1,500 pieces in orbit.

quote:

"The debris created by Russia's (test) will continue to pose a threat to activities in outer space for years to come, putting satellites and space missions at risk, as well as forcing more collision avoidance maneuvers," he said.

Depending on how close to the lab a piece of debris is predicted to pass, the crew can be asked to take shelter in their respective spacecraft, ready to make a quick return-to-Earth in case of an impact.

During Monday's encounter, Shkaplerov, Dubrov and Vande Hei sheltered in place in their Soyuz MS-19/65S spacecraft. The newly arrived Crew Dragon astronauts — Raja Chari, Thomas Marshburn, Kayla Barron and Matthias Maurer — sheltered in their "Endurance" capsule at the forward end of the space station.

https://twitter.com/18SPCS/status/1460388384078139399
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1460387353768382465

"Actually, the treaty only prevents WMDs from being positioned in space, but we could also launch nukes into low orbit if we wanted" is not a super reassuring statement from Russia.

quote:

The term "weapons of mass destruction" is not defined, but it is commonly understood to include nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons. The treaty, however, does not prohibit the launching of ballistic missiles, which could be armed with WMD warheads, through space.

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Nov 16, 2021

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
Well, then if the ISS is no longer safe, does this mean that is one relationship that is over between Russia and International/US?

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



What was Russia's stance on Climate Change? I'm sure it's unintentional, but making space travel impossible for several years-if-not-decades seems an appropriate answer to all of the billionairs eyeing Mars as an escape plan.

:rms: you rich fucks, there ain't no getting off this ride.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



I'm pretty convinced that the people who developed anti-satellite weapons either don't care or don't understand how bad a Kessler effect would be

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
we will never get another social spending bill in our lifetimes because of inflation and Biden tying it directly to his signature legislative achievement and this will be how they justify abandoning BBB. "Didn't you see how much inflation those previous spending bills caused? We can't afford that! Stagflation! Jimmy Carter! GET IN LINE, CPC"

Rochallor
Apr 23, 2010

ふっっっっっっっっっっっっck
I have to believe billionaires aren't stupid enough to believe that the moon or Mars is a viable habitat, but then you have Musk's Twitter.

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
Space debris is 100% a thing that prevents people from making money Right Now, so it's guaranteed that resources will be invested into solving that problem

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

rscott posted:

Space debris is 100% a thing that prevents people from making money Right Now, so it's guaranteed that resources will be invested into solving that problem

Too bad money can't solve a ton of problems.

LionArcher
Mar 29, 2010


VitalSigns posted:

What are some of these extreme left takes

There's a lot of miss-use on "toxic masculinity" with just straight "masculinity". Or, if a guy gets into a disagreement with a woman about an issue that the guy actually knows a fair amount about, its deemed "mansplaining". of course we all can look at twitter and see plenty of "mansplaining" examples. in day to day life, I'm sure women experience it all the time. That's not what I'm talking about.

An example would be the Australian middle school/high school? where the male students had to turn and apologize for "all men who have caused sexual assault" to their female counterparts. And we're talking about little kids here.

The "gently caress all guys, you're all complicite" vibes versus the, "here's systemic problems and how do we best as a culture address them, these are things that we as civilized people should not accept any longer." is what I'm talking about.

The group that have those "extreme left takes" aren't even extreme left. They don't want to have limited air travel because it's bad for the environment, or UBI if it effects their taxes. It's controlling left usually, and it's usually college educated white women trying to run things. they're the one to weaponize language to make them out to be the heroes (or preferably) victims, almost always. Basically, it's stuff in the "white fragility" mode of poo poo, versus actual addressing things in a none grifter manner.

Or, to put it another way, take the tv show Wandavision. If you think the ending of that show was "girl boss" and not "hugely problematic," then it's the "you're not actually standing for anything progressive, you just want more power group". And honestly? I'm fine with that too, just be honest about it.

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007
So since the deadline for a vote on the BBBA has passed, what's the next step? Will any form of it be passed by the House before the end of the year? Much less the Senate.

I don't see how it's not completely dead (let's be honest, it is) if they wait until 2022.

StratGoatCom
Aug 6, 2019

Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice


Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

International Space Station evacuated.

The debris from the weapon test will likely last "years" and there is no way to track the long-term trajectory of all of the pieces. As of now, they have confirmed ~1,500 pieces in orbit.

https://twitter.com/18SPCS/status/1460388384078139399
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1460387353768382465

"Actually, the treaty only prevents WMDs from being positioned in space, but we could also launch nukes into low orbit if we wanted" is not a super reassuring statement from Russia.

please god no.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

HonorableTB posted:

we will never get another social spending bill in our lifetimes because of inflation and Biden tying it directly to his signature legislative achievement and this will be how they justify abandoning BBB. "Didn't you see how much inflation those previous spending bills caused? We can't afford that! Stagflation! Jimmy Carter! GET IN LINE, CPC"
Yeah but on the bright side they will never dump 2 trillion dollars into bailing out banks or the stock market again either.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


FlamingLiberal posted:

I'm pretty convinced that the people who developed anti-satellite weapons either don't care or don't understand how bad a Kessler effect would be

Just like my Japanese animes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetes

Next up: Third Impact, if we're lucky

icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Nov 16, 2021

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost

VitalSigns posted:

Yeah but on the bright side they will never dump 2 trillion dollars into bailing out banks or the stock market again either.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

ex post facho posted:

So since the deadline for a vote on the BBBA has passed, what's the next step? Will any form of it be passed by the House before the end of the year? Much less the Senate.

I don't see how it's not completely dead (let's be honest, it is) if they wait until 2022.

Nah; it'll be passed this year bc of the SALT deduction restoration for richies + the subsidies to private health insurers.

An important & enduring feature of crisis capitalism is waiting till the last possible moment of the year before Congress's 28th paid break of the year, then midnight passage of whichever controversial bills are pending.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

International Space Station evacuated.

The debris from the weapon test will likely last "years" and there is no way to track the long-term trajectory of all of the pieces. As of now, they have confirmed ~1,500 pieces in orbit.

https://twitter.com/18SPCS/status/1460388384078139399
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1460387353768382465

"Actually, the treaty only prevents WMDs from being positioned in space, but we could also launch nukes into low orbit if we wanted" is not a super reassuring statement from Russia.

No Biggie, Russia just going full Principality of Zeon and planning a colony/ satellite drop :shepface:

Also, proposing WMDs in space is a "HOLY loving poo poo" level red flag violation of the treaty, not sure what the Russians are smoking to say that. :dogstare:

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.
Guys Russia position regarding ICBMs isn't new, and it is our position as well.

We said we wouldn't put nukes in orbit. That's very different than temporarily putting them on a sub orbital flight. :pseudo:

We've done this, China has done this, it's not new. It is also nowhere near anything that would cause Kessler syndrome. That's going to take Elon Musk levels of stupid.

In reality this is a short term risk to current space efforts, and things go back to normal in a few months after all the debris is tracked.

There really should be international agreement against this behavior and sanctions, but good luck when the US reserves the right to do the same.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

ex post facho posted:

So since the deadline for a vote on the BBBA has passed, what's the next step? Will any form of it be passed by the House before the end of the year? Much less the Senate.

I don't see how it's not completely dead (let's be honest, it is) if they wait until 2022.

The deadline is technically "the week of" the 15th.

Jayapal says they are voting in the House this week, but no specific date on a Senate vote.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

How are u posted:

I think if in 2022 people can get back to living their lives, declare the pandemic over, and the inflation and supply chain stuff gets worked out, that Biden will bounce back up there. Meeting material needs, and all that jazz.

Looks like the Biden administration agrees with you.

A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


is pepsi ok posted:

Looks like the Biden administration agrees with you.



So "It can't get worse!" combined with "I'm sure it'll get better on its own!"

Amazing.

Sax Mortar
Aug 24, 2004

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1460306717154099209

Likely candidates are:

D Side

Pete Welch
Becca Balint

R Side

???

Scott is the only Republican candidate that had a shot at winning, so it will probably be some state Representative or self-funding businessperson.

Can it please not be Pete Welch? The dude is already 74.

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

Sax Mortar posted:

Can it please not be Pete Welch? The dude is already 74.

Yeah he's way too young to be a congressional Democrat

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Gatts posted:

Well, then if the ISS is no longer safe, does this mean that is one relationship that is over between Russia and International/US?

It's not the first time a satellite's been blown up in LEO during the ISS's lifetime, so it's probably not as bad as it sounds. If the risk was judged to be all that high, the station personnel likely would have been returned to Earth. It's not like the reentry vehicles they're sheltering in are any more resistant to debris impacts.

Kalit
Nov 6, 2006

The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.

the_steve posted:

lol
The silly Left, can't even overcome one measly multibillion dollar media empire with a vested interest in making sure that the Left never gets anywhere near the levers of power. Must just be sour grapes that they can't just work around a 24/7 media cycle that saturates the daily lives of tens of millions of people and will smother any story it doesn't want to gain traction :jerkbag:

Obviously, if the Left had wanted to get word out and connect with people, it should have done something like get people going door to door with petitions and flyers and other grassroots efforts. Oh wait, they did. But hey, gently caress them for not being able to undo in an hour conversation with somebody the efforts of months upon months of "If you vote for anybody except Joe Biden you will have personally ushered in a thousand years of darkness and murdered everyone you ever loved while the very concept of democracy is scrubbed from the collective human consciousness."

If you want to see an anecdotal example of how leftism fails at connecting with people, take a look at what happened this year with ballot question #2 in Minneapolis. The group behind that ballot initiative (Yes 4 Minneapolis) couldn't have cared less about connecting with local people who are most impacted by policing. They seemed to have cared a lot more about their national image. And they even managed to raise quite a bit more money than the main opposing group (All of Minneapolis).

Granted, this ballot question wouldn't have actually done much to change MPD/policing anyways, but that's a different story.

E: If you're specifically talking about the Left on a nation-wide level, then ignore my post.

Kalit fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Nov 16, 2021

Zotix
Aug 14, 2011



So Bannon will now have a trial right? Then he will appeal that, and then that will get appealed to the SC as well, right? So all of this will take a year to play out likely?

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Jul 28, 2006

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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

International Space Station evacuated.

The debris from the weapon test will likely last "years" and there is no way to track the long-term trajectory of all of the pieces. As of now, they have confirmed ~1,500 pieces in orbit.

https://twitter.com/18SPCS/status/1460388384078139399
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1460387353768382465

"Actually, the treaty only prevents WMDs from being positioned in space, but we could also launch nukes into low orbit if we wanted" is not a super reassuring statement from Russia.

1,500 pieces being tracked, but god knows how many little bits the size of nuts, bolts, grains of rice traveling at 20,000mph

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