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Uncle Wemus posted:In the first movie tony has a computer that designates and targets "bad guys" in the 2nd Captain America he helped invent the killer drone helicarriers In the 2nd SpiderMan he bequeaths his killer drone army to a high schooler
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Casey Finnigan posted:i think it's funny that Rian Johnson has such a good reputation considering Brick was awful and Looper was just okay, if you don't think about it too hard theyre both really discordantly sentimental and optimistic movies despite the inherently grim setting which is really the strongest critique of the last jedi rather than getting hung up on what it does with the star wars mythos
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Nov 16, 2021 04:16
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Casey Finnigan posted:it's crazy that Tony Stark is the big uberhero from the marvel universe because, even in that film universe, he's like one of the worst villains we know it was justified because the only two people from that country with names decided to join starks team for the extremely logical reason that they realized the robot stark created was more dangerous than stark himself
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Dreylad posted:i thought knives out was pretty good knives out ruled and i'm glad that rian johnson lost his star wars deal so now he can make more knives outs for netflix instead of wasting his life on star wars
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Nov 16, 2021 04:51
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Like some other pieces of media, Brick isn't bad if you're somewhat close to the age range it's depicting.
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Nov 16, 2021 05:35
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Knives Out: rich people are basically good unless they have insufficient love of their patriarch which leads them astray. You too can be the model minority that cares for the dying wealthy boomers of America and maybe you'll get a big payout! The justice system will definitely protect you if you accidentally murder said boomer just in the course of doing your job. Everything will work out in the end, keep your head down and trust in christ
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McCloud posted:Wow, what a shocker, who could have guessed the star wars sequels had a "plot point by committee" lmao Casey Finnigan posted:i think it's funny that Rian Johnson has such a good reputation considering Brick was awful and Looper was just okay, if you don't think about it too hard
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Nov 16, 2021 08:28
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I liked Brick as a teenager but I have no idea how it holds up.
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Some Guy TT posted:reading the quiet american again for the first time in a decade and having about the same reaction i did the first time i read it which is that the main character is a racist sexpat pedophile and its disturbing how were expected to overlook this because he has basically the closest thing to a non monstrous opinion a white person can have about vietnam in the fifties isn't that the point? He's explicitly high on opium or drunk for at least a third of the book too. The immoral piece of poo poo is still less harmful to society as a whole than the well intentioned agent of an imperial power. I read that and then some le Carre recently and le Carre just looked juvenile in comparison when it came to political situations. le Carre has some good action and characters, but "what if the west and east had amoral intelligence agencies" isn't particularly engaging to me. Even worse, the scale is on individual lives being ruined, when we know western spies were helping assassinate world leaders and plan genocides. I haven't read much Greene though, but did he ever write about areas where the British were the chief colonial power? He tries to carve out an exception for his British protagonist in the Quiet American being a colonist since it's technically not a British colony. It's easy to critique imperialism by other powers tbh.
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Atrocious Joe posted:isn't that the point? He's explicitly high on opium or drunk for at least a third of the book too. The immoral piece of poo poo is still less harmful to society as a whole than the well intentioned agent of an imperial power. i honestly got hubert humphrey vibes from him in that while thats the obvious sympathetic way to interpret the character its a lot less effort to just read him as a straight antihero instead theres also just no getting around the fact that phuong has zero agency and for all practical intents and purposes might as well be a sex doll at least lolita was portrayed as capable of complex thought my perspective might be skewed somewhat as i have unfortunately had more exposure to the sexpat rationalization process than i would like and even today liberals slash libertarians like that are a dime a dozen in southeast asia
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WrightOfWay posted:I liked Brick as a teenager but I have no idea how it holds up. I watched it p recently for the first time and it was very good. It's a good movie
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grate deceiver posted:I watched it p recently for the first time and it was very good. It's a good movie this was also my experience. i thought there were a few places where a more confident director could have really hammered home the joke but it was a fun film with one big idea it did well
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continuously baffled more and more in a sickening oneupsmanship of baffle at some of these decisions for live action bebop like did I really just see that post about how the show 'avoids painting a dystopian vision of the future' when the dystopian future is a really important facet in all the characters backstories and in fact the crux of why they're bounty hunters in the first place?? losing my mind over here actually
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Pyrus Malus posted:continuously baffled more and more in a sickening oneupsmanship of baffle at some of these decisions for live action bebop Not that this would make the show good.
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Jokerpilled Drudge posted:and here I thought the end result of "netflix wants to make more money from cowboy bebop" would be a net positive for us eh netflix has funded some good content, I mean they're not a completely awful publisher or anything. like don't get me wrong, I never thought it'd be good, but I didn't think it was crazy to set my expectations to 'anything but the absolute worst' for the bebop adaptation til now
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has there ever been a live action anime adaptation that is not trash? western or japanese? only one that comes to my mind is Alita that was p dece, maybe even approaching 'good'
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Nov 16, 2021 13:59
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wait, scratch that, Alita is not an anime so it doesnt count
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Nov 16, 2021 14:00
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Yeah Alita was actually entertaining, people seem split about Speed Racer but I've never seen it
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I feel like it's entirely possible that the creators have removed the parts they recognized as dystopian, then added features they perceive as utopian or at least neutral, the end result being a different sort of dystopia rather than no dystopia. I'm reminded of some really awful twitter take that cowboy bebop is a depiction of how anime has neoliberal utopias
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Alita was fine, not sure what took so drat long to get the movie done but whatever
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'm reminded of some really awful twitter take that cowboy bebop is a depiction of how anime has neoliberal utopias
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cowboy bebop captured a kind of outer rim star wars + jazz vibe that will never again be as potent or interesting as it was back in 1998 . If anything it could become our actual lived reality because an Intersolar transit system pretty much destroying earth sounds pretty on the nose
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grate deceiver posted:has there ever been a live action anime adaptation that is not trash? western or japanese? only one that comes to my mind is Alita that was p dece, maybe even approaching 'good' Robert Rodriguez doesn't count he respects source material and will direct, edit, and produce a movie to be as close to it as possible even if no one else will for good or bad.
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Nov 16, 2021 15:31
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The racing/car battle parts are real in speedracer, the other stuff is trash.
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Hollywood hosed up by not making an attack on titan movie when it first got big. Just left mountains of cash on the table
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Nov 16, 2021 15:38
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Speed Racer was not my thing, but I can respect that it fully commits to anime, that's at least more honest than whatever the gently caress Bepop is doing
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Nov 16, 2021 15:40
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vyelkin posted:knives out ruled and i'm glad that rian johnson lost his star wars deal so now he can make more knives outs for netflix instead of wasting his life on star wars we just need way more golden age murder mystery movies imo
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Nov 16, 2021 15:45
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I feel like the review that was saying it was too embarrassed to be anime hit it on the mark Just loving embrace it at this point man, that's the only way to do it justice
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Nov 16, 2021 15:46
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Casey Finnigan posted:it's crazy that Tony Stark is the big uberhero from the marvel universe because, even in that film universe, he's like one of the worst villains thats why dr strange had to trick stark into killing himself so that earth's two biggest threats (thanos + stark) died together
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Feldegast42 posted:I feel like the review that was saying it was too embarrassed to be anime hit it on the mark I mean, you could also go the other way - forget entirely that it's an anime, and adapt it as a western, just in a space setting. Kinda like Mandalorian I guess? Point is commit to something for fucks sake, instead of this self-conscious referential whedonshit.
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Dreylad posted:we just need way more golden age murder mystery movies imo and yet death on the nile sits gathering dust on the shelf just because every single person involved with it did a covid sex crime
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Jokerpilled Drudge posted:cowboy bebop captured a kind of outer rim star wars + jazz vibe that will never again be as potent or interesting as it was back in 1998 . If anything it could become our actual lived reality because an Intersolar transit system pretty much destroying earth sounds pretty on the nose They should make more westerns with good music.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:They should make more westerns with good music. 
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Trabisnikof posted:Who’d be Gendo, Nick Offerman? Shinji, when a man builds something he puts his heart and soul into it. Your mother was my heart, and I put her soul into the eva I built.
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Feldegast42 posted:I feel like the review that was saying it was too embarrassed to be anime hit it on the mark The funny thing is by anime standards CB is pretty accessible to casual viewers: -The character designs and personalities are super tropey but still not aggravatingly so to normies the way the average anime character often is (also it's a mostly adult cast), -The whole style is reminiscent of things the audience has already seen in live-action like film noir, etc, -The series as a whole at least superficially looks cool and "grown up". Outside of how revered the original is (and some irreconcilable stylistic differences between the two media), it probably was one of the rare anime series where you could in theory hope for something that would at least look decent. One Piece by comparison is much more cartoony and shamelessly juvenile, and the whole cast is super extra. Imagine how lifeless and ashamed of itself the adaptation is gonna look if they go through with it, or pretty much any other of the big hits they might consider adapting. Bebop was easy mode compared to those, and they couldn't even approach even a fraction of the self-confidence of, say, Alita or Speed Racer.
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I want Hollywood to make a woke version of Smokey and the Bandit. I think it'd be hilarious and get lots of people really mad.
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Casey Finnigan posted:i think it's funny that Rian Johnson has such a good reputation considering Brick was awful and Looper was just okay, if you don't think about it too hard he did a star war that everyone loved and had only positive things to say about* *compared to the next one
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Lord of Pie posted:he did a star war that everyone loved and had only positive things to say about* I didn't love The Last Jedi, but I was looking forward to having lots and lots of young punk DIY Jedis just rising up against the old order and seeing whether Lucasfilm had the balls to go for that change of direction. It was not meant to be.
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YaketySass posted:The funny thing is by anime standards CB is pretty accessible to casual viewers: Bebop also has a really good English dub, which was less common at the time, I think.
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