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Pablo Nergigante posted:I think I'm enjoying VOW limited a little more than MID even when I lose, it seems like there's a little more variety in viable archetypes besides gently caress You Blue/Black Yeah, deifnitely. I'm having a lot of fun and winning with UG flyers/monsters. a lot of the other archetypes except for a few (WR, UR, GB?) are good and blood tokens are reall fun.
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HootTheOwl posted:It's already finished. Now we need the Bleached, Burning, Moist, and Mossy lands to go along with them.
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Nov 16, 2021 17:53
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New Capenna's supposed to be the next tricolor heavy set right? Hopefully we get the shard triomes there.
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Nov 16, 2021 19:22
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Thranguy posted:Now we need the Bleached, Burning, Moist, and Mossy lands to go along with them. Moist wood?
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Pablo Nergigante posted:I think I'm enjoying VOW limited a little more than MID even when I lose, it seems like there's a little more variety in viable archetypes besides gently caress You Blue/Black VOW feels a lot more fun as a limited format but that might just be honeymoon phase. Constructed wise hard to say, although I hope that a viable Vampire deck shakes out of all the good stuff in VOW.
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Nov 16, 2021 19:58
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UB wasn't even the best color pair in MID limited, it's UG
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Nov 16, 2021 20:40
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IMO rock should be a generic token like blood, treasure, etc.
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Nov 16, 2021 22:27
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T, sacrifice a Rock: Destroy target Giant.
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Nov 16, 2021 22:35
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Dysgenesis posted:Moist wood? Give us Burning Taint imo
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dragon enthusiast posted:T, sacrifice a Rock: Destroy target Giant. T, sacrifice a Rock: Destroy target scissors
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Nov 16, 2021 23:15
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T, sacrifice a Scissors: destroy target card owned by your opponent.
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Nov 16, 2021 23:28
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They already did Rock Lobster, Paper Tiger, and Scissors Lizard.
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Nov 16, 2021 23:32
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I want Dice tokens 2, sac: roll a d6: 1: lose 3 life, 2-5: draw a card, 6: draw two cards
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Nov 16, 2021 23:35
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T, sacrifice a nontoken permanent: Destroy target artifact with a mana ability.
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T: Win the game
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Enchantment Whenever a creature dies, create a Treasure token. Then if there is exactly one creature on the battlefield, that creature's controller wins the game. 0: Sacrifice ~. Any player may activate this ability and only if they control a number of creatures equal to or greater than half the total number of creatures on the battlefield.
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Thanks to those of you that have shared resources on how to get the most out of your gold/gems on Arena. But I guess I am still a little confused on what specific Limited / Draft Formats I should be playing since there are several formats. Some you can buy in with gold and gems, others only gems, and their prizes vary a bit as well. The formats that you can buy entry with gold or gems include:
The other formats you can only buy entry with gems:
The only one I have done so far is the Sealed Crimson Vow where I ended up getting 5 wins with a mediocre Green / White deck. Obviously this isn't enough of a sample size to judge my skill at this format but let's just assume I have an average win rate. Given that information, what drafts should I be entering? Should I be spending gold on certain formats and gems on others? Thanks for all of the help, I have one decent constructed Standard Deck at the moment and it feels like getting enough cards/wildcards for my second is taking me much longer than my first.
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Also, if you aren't good at limited you can always just hoard your gold and buy 80+ packs when a new set comes out. You can easily build a deck between the cards you open and the amount of wildcards this creates.
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I've got like a hundred thousand gold and lots of unused wildcards and fifty or so unopened packs sitting around and I've been playing Arena (not daily, but often) for about a year without spending a dime. IMO this is part of why the calculation of "how much does a rare cost" that just assumes you're always using gems is misleading. You do not ever have to actually spend gems, in order to play on Arena (but you'll get a few for free and you might as well).
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Nov 17, 2021 02:36
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:IMO rock should be a generic token like blood, treasure, etc. Great news! 
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Nov 17, 2021 03:10
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Lone Goat posted:Great news! I think by "generic" they mean other cards can produce it besides toggo
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MrSargent posted:Thanks to those of you that have shared resources on how to get the most out of your gold/gems on Arena. But I guess I am still a little confused on what specific Limited / Draft Formats I should be playing since there are several formats. Some you can buy in with gold and gems, others only gems, and their prizes vary a bit as well. What is an average win rate? 50%? If so, I think that premier drafting is your best bet for returns. There is a win rate to prizing calculator that exists somewhere (Ryan Spain might have a copy) and you can crunch the numbers to see what is best. I would caution you away from quick drafting, as they payouts are quite flat, and drafting against bots, only makes you better at drafting with bots.
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Nov 17, 2021 07:24
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Lone Goat posted:Great news! I can never get over how incredible the flavor of this card is.
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Nov 17, 2021 07:41
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Drewjitsu posted:What is an average win rate? 50%? If so, I think that premier drafting is your best bet for returns. I have this one saved but it's old, if someone wants to check the numbers and see if they still apply: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-opvcuESDeS-6sO5w286oGMjNjOEYVobnj5BVUldWZk/edit#gid=163395424
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Nov 17, 2021 07:59
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Any goons going to be in Vegas?
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Nov 17, 2021 14:03
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Balon posted:Any goons going to be in Vegas? I'm sat in Heathrow now, going by way of Seattle though. Also didn't want to build a modern deck and go into the Friday event with barely any practice, so playing the sealed event and deciding if I want to buy 2 Solitude or sell the 2 I have.
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BizarroAzrael posted:I'm sat in Heathrow now, going by way of Seattle though. Also didn't want to build a modern deck and go into the Friday event with barely any practice, so playing the sealed event and deciding if I want to buy 2 Solitude or sell the 2 I have. I’ll be there doing commander stuff all weekend. Come see me and get one of my logo patches.
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Balon posted:I’ll be there doing commander stuff all weekend. Come see me and get one of my logo patches. I've brought a deck, but it's not been updated for years. Getting the foil Blood Artist signed hopefully though.
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Really easy question that I think I know the answer to: For a card like Imposing Grandeur in the vampire commander precon (4{R} Sorcery, Each player may discard their hand and draw cards equal to the greatest mana value of a commander they own on the battlefield or in the command zone.") [discard their hand] is a cost so a player has to have a hand of at least one card, which they would discard, in order to get the draw effect, is that right?
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Abisteen posted:Really easy question that I think I know the answer to: For a card like Imposing Grandeur in the vampire commander precon (4{R} Sorcery, Each player may discard their hand and draw cards equal to the greatest mana value of a commander they own on the battlefield or in the command zone.") Nope, it's not an additional cost, the way it's worded if a player has no cards in hand they can still choose to discard their hand and they'll get to draw cards.
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Abisteen posted:Really easy question that I think I know the answer to: For a card like Imposing Grandeur in the vampire commander precon (4{R} Sorcery, Each player may discard their hand and draw cards equal to the greatest mana value of a commander they own on the battlefield or in the command zone.") Discarding your hand is not a cost of the spell, it is the spell's effect. If you have no cards in hand you may just draw. Costs will have a colon "Discard your hand: draw cards equal to…" or the text "As an additional cost…". Cactrot fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Nov 17, 2021 |
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Thanks! Yep now that I think about it more I should have realized that since there wasn't a colon. These are the things that are the hardest to remember since I cut my teeth on arena and all of that sort of thing is handled for you.
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Even if it is a cost, you can still choose to "discard your hand" when you have zero cards in it, for example to activate a Bomat Courier. Similar to how if someone casts a Syncopate on one of your spells with X=0, you can choose to pay 0 mana to avoid your spell being countered.
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I was excited about Innistrad Double Feature, and sad that every indication so far is that it won't be on Arena, but 1. the greyscale art kinda looks like poo poo imo, and 2. it's the laziest implementation possible. https://twitter.com/ghirapurigears/status/1460768816703574016 FWIW here's Maro on it not being curated at all: I agree that I wish we’d done a better job when announcing it of making players understand what it is. Midnight Hunt and Crimson Vow were made purposely to have a lot of overlapping themes, so we liked giving players a chance to play them together, and the black and white treatment which made them feel like 50’s horror films felt like a cool way to do that visually. I think the main reason all the cards were included was to let players have access to the treatment for all the cards. There’s a parallel universe where we didn’t print some of the cards where I’m getting complaints from players that their favorite card from one of the sets didn’t get the treatment. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Nov 17, 2021 |
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Pablo Nergigante posted:Fish words I'm really cised your pet deck went T1 wild. Such a great feeling and the only thing close is the joy of beating Johnny come lately's who picked up the deck because it's the current new hotness. You are such a fun person to have in here, couldn't have happened to a nicer wizard poker player Sinteres posted:I was excited about Innistrad Double Feature, and sad that every indication so far is that it won't be on Arena, but 1. the greyscale art kinda looks like poo poo imo, and 2. it's the laziest implementation possible. I hope the price on these boxes go into the toilet so I can pick one up on the cheap for a fun werewolves/vampire draft some time later
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I think double feature was the next set my homies were planning to draft so that'd be sweet if they end up cheap!
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PleasantDirge posted:I'm really cised your pet deck went T1 wild. Such a great feeling and the only thing close is the joy of beating Johnny come lately's who picked up the deck because it's the current new hotness. You are such a fun person to have in here, couldn't have happened to a nicer wizard poker player Is this sarcastic or sincere. I honestly can't tell
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Pablo Nergigante posted:Is this sarcastic or sincere. I honestly can't tell Grudge posters get creative. Its not your fault.
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PleasantDirge posted:I'm really cised your pet deck went T1 wild. Such a great feeling and the only thing close is the joy of beating Johnny come lately's who picked up the deck because it's the current new hotness. You are such a fun person to have in here, couldn't have happened to a nicer wizard poker player Make your own spooky Innistrad cube!
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I come to you from the Arena thread to figure out what from VOW would best benefit this weird rear end deck that I just love playing. Deck 8 Snow-Covered Island (KHM) 279 4 Frostboil Snarl (STX) 265 4 Expressive Iteration (STX) 186 3 Seize the Spoils (KHM) 149 4 Boots of Speed (AFR) 133 2 Prismari Command (STX) 214 2 Volatile Fjord (KHM) 273 3 Negate (ZNR) 71 9 Snow-Covered Mountain (KHM) 283 4 Frost Bite (KHM) 138 2 Thundering Rebuke (ZNR) 170 4 Pixie Guide (AFR) 66 4 Barbarian Class (AFR) 131 4 Delina, Wild Mage (AFR) 138 3 Behold the Multiverse (KHM) 46 Sideboard 2 Critical Hit (AFR) 137 2 Crush the Weak (KHM) 128 It's so goddamn silly and basically plays solitaire until the combo clicks together. but a new set means new possibilities. thoughts?
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