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Gatts posted:I was going to use this meme when the House and Senate passed the $3.5 trillion dollar reconciliation bill but now at $1.9 trillion they do not deserve it I thought it was down to 1t, of which only about 500b is really new spending
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Gatts posted:I was going to use this meme when the House and Senate passed the $3.5 trillion dollar reconciliation bill but now at $1.9 trillion they do not deserve it Gowron died a loser though. He had an honorable death, I suppose. MARTOK 2024
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Nov 19, 2021 16:32
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How are u posted:BBBA passed the house, fancy that. Fingers crossed it goes through the senate with minimal changes. Manchin and Sinema have been waiting for this prime time moment for months.
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Nov 19, 2021 16:33
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The NDAA is currently stuck in the Senate because several Senators want changes and are filibustering. The Senate can't vote on the BBB bill until they pass bills to authorize a continuing resolution to fund the government in order to avoid a shutdown, authorize the 2022 NDAA, and raise the debt ceiling. The holdout amendments are: Sanders: An amendment to reduce the total cost of the bill by $25 billion by reducing an annual increase in maintenance and replacement spending. Rubio: An amendment to ensure that goods made with Uyghur forced labor in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region (XUAR) do not enter the United States. Daines: An amendment to forbid the distribution of any funds as part of a compensatory payment to migrant families impacted by family separation policies in place between 2018 and 2021. Toomey: An amendment to penalize foreign countries that fail to limit the flow of illicit fentanyl into the United States. Risch: An amendment to require the United States State Department to consider the construction of the NORD STREAM 2 pipeline a national security threat. Cruz: An amendment to reverse the United States State Department's decision to waive sanctions under the Countering America’s Adversaries through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) and require the United States State Department to implement economic sanctions on all individuals and organizations involved in the completion of the NORD STREAM 2 pipeline. Sullivan: An amendment to rescind the requirement for all active service military members and contractors to receive the vaccine for the novel coronavirus. Lankford: An amendment to require the Department of Homeland security to utilize the $2 billion in funds allocated for the construction of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border that the Department has refused to disburse.
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Excited to finally put Manchin Cycle Theory to the test, I hope MCT shows more mettle under experimentation than the Virginia Standard Model
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Nov 19, 2021 16:36
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Kavros posted:I thought it was down to 1t, of which only about 500b is really new spending Who the heck knows what the hell is actually happening with any of this. The numbers I hear are 1.9 trillion with a lot of good stuff stripped out. I think the 1.2 trillion bipartisan bill is the one that only has 500 billion in new spending. And I never hear the news going “hay they printed $3 trillion to flush down Wall Street and make billionaire richer, maybe that caused inflation?” I hate the long post timeouts, ugh.
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FizFashizzle posted:It’s very common among the middle class fancy wannabe cowboys near where he grew up. Yeah, urban hick wannabes love to dip for some reason. It's also really popular in agriculture work. Gatts posted:I was going to use this meme when the House and Senate passed the $3.5 trillion dollar reconciliation bill but now at $1.9 trillion they do not deserve it Gauron memes are always welcome
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Nov 19, 2021 16:39
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I know Cawthorn is definitely not representative of the average person in his age group, but it still blows my mind that chewing tobacco of all things is making a huge comeback among the youth. That poo poo was everywhere in my suburban high school in Georgia in the 00's. Almost every time I went to the bathroom, the toilets were filled with someone's spit out dip. loving disgusting.
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Pakled posted:That poo poo was everywhere in my suburban high school in Georgia in the 00's. Almost every time I went to the bathroom, the toilets were filled with someone's spit out dip. loving disgusting.
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Nov 19, 2021 16:42
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skylined! posted:On this historic day America has a woman president. Didnt Donnie refuse anesthesia because he didnt want Pence to get power on paper for even the hour or so? Also cant wait till Fox News does the toxic male thing with this.
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Pakled posted:That poo poo was everywhere in my suburban high school in Georgia in the 00's. Almost every time I went to the bathroom, the toilets were filled with someone's spit out dip. loving disgusting. I'm gonna feel so loving owned when a bunch of young chuds start dropping like flies from mouth cancer
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PhazonLink posted:Didnt Donnie refuse anesthesia because he didnt want Pence to get power on paper for even the hour or so? I thought he just refused to sign the more formal paperwork. EDIT: I cannot get my head around the idea of Trump ever voluntarily taking the more painful path. Eric Cantonese fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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Nov 19, 2021 16:43
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VitalSigns posted:
No, I'm just explaining why he was cleared by the ethics board. They required him to divest of all his stock holdings in those companies, but they don't consider his relatives receiving rent from leasing a building to be a personal investment because a lease means they get paid regardless of the performance of the company and he agreed to recuse himself from voting on any decision involving those companies. He was initially held up from being nominated because of those conflicts and those changes were what he had to do in order to get cleared.
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Nov 19, 2021 16:45
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I didn't want the true oral history of america to include "our first woman president so a septuagenarian can have a tube put up his butt"
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Kavros posted:I didn't want the true oral history of america to include "our first woman president so a septuagenarian can have a tube put up his butt" The first black president was a caretaker between the fascists he enabled, you're already in the evil genie timeline.
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Nov 19, 2021 16:55
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I also saw Klain on Twitter saying that BBB will cap insulin payments at something like $35/month. Is this accurate and if so, what is the mechanism?
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Kavros posted:I didn't want the true oral history of america to include "our first woman president so a septuagenarian can have a tube put up his butt" Everybody needs to get an annual tube up the butt if you're over 40. It happened with Trump, Obama, and Bush as well. Obama actually had a digital CT scan for 7 out of 8 years that didn't require the butt tube or anesthesia, so I'm not sure why people don't use that. Smiling Knight posted:I also saw Klain on Twitter saying that BBB will cap insulin payments at something like $35/month. Is this accurate and if so, what is the mechanism? It does. It just requires insurance and pharmacies to not have a cost higher than $35 per 30-day supply for the end user. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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Nov 19, 2021 16:59
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:No, I'm just explaining why he was cleared by the ethics board. If you agree he's abusing his office to at minimum get some graft going anyway, then "well he argued a loophole into existence so he could do it slyly" doesn't matter. That may be why he's getting away with it now, but that doesn't mean you don't have an argument for firing him for it. Or for the hundreds of other things he's doing to sabotage the USPS on purpose. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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Kavros posted:I didn't want the true oral history of america to include "our first woman president so a septuagenarian can have a tube put up his butt" It still counts
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https://twitter.com/kerryeleveld/status/1461725393954635777 Nice to hear journalists called out on them just acting like their job is to throw Republican talking points at the Dems.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Yeah, urban hick wannabes love to dip for some reason. It's also really popular in agriculture work. 
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What is NORD STREAM 2 and why are senate republicans so mad about it?
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Thom12255 posted:https://twitter.com/kerryeleveld/status/1461725393954635777 lol that the dailykos writer thinks Pelosi's unintelligible "Let's just not present what the Republicans say as any fact that you're predicating a question on. I mean, understand what's happening around here, okay?" is some sort of superslam. Let's run it in an ad!
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VitalSigns posted:Ok but so what. You asked why he wasn't being charged with graft/abuse of power and how the ethics board cleared him. That is why. haveblue posted:What is NORD STREAM 2 and why are senate republicans so mad about it? It's a Russian gas pipeline that goes into Europe to transfer natural gas from Russia to the E.U. It's controversial because it curves up and around Ukraine to keep them dependent on pipelines that Russia directly controls and separate from the E.U. supply line. It also gives Russia a degree of economic leverage over the countries in the eastern part of the E.U. In 2017 they passed a law that mandated sanctions for companies and individuals that threaten U.S. security. But, the State Department has the ability to waive them (so, it is a very soft "mandate"). The State Department has elected to waive them in this case and Republicans want them to be mandated. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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haveblue posted:What is NORD STREAM 2 and why are senate republicans so mad about it? Gas pipeline running from Russia to Eastern Europe; no idea. It is a relatively big political issue in Europe but not sure why US senators care.
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haveblue posted:What is NORD STREAM 2 and why are senate republicans so mad about it? Probably because it places the EU at Russia's mercy via gas prices and supply in the same way that we're at the mercy of OPEC, so the fear is that the EU will be unable to align with US geopolitical goals in Europe, especially around Ukraine and Russia.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:You asked why he wasn't being charged with graft/abuse of power and how the ethics board cleared him. No I did not, I said I hadn't heard a good explanation why he can't be fired for cause for grafting and sabotaging the company, you moved the goalposts to criminal charges. I am well aware of the legalistic mechanisms politicians created make crime basically legal see also the Raytheon exec we have as Secretary of Defense
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I thought regressive loved Russia though. e : Also I remember listening to a NPR piece about how even hydrocarbon puppets are saying that Putin should try to sow some non carbon seeds for Russia's future energy indusrty, but lol he doesnt care what happens the nanosecond he dies. PhazonLink fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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PhazonLink posted:I thought regressive loved Russia though. Haha yeah Putin is going to die with a smile on his face and 100% carefree. The guy is a megalomaniac.
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Josh Hawley is now filibustering the NDAA as well unless they vote on his amendment to remove the provision requiring women to be included in selected service/the draft. That one will probably not hold things up, though. There seem to be a few Republicans that support it and a lot of them that don't care one way or the other - and definitely don't care enough to jeopardize a bunch of money going to their local military bases, jeep production plants, and airplane engine assembly lines.
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Enlightening story on how restoring the SALT deduction is tilted toward the super-rich:quote:Pushed by lawmakers from high-tax states, House Democrats are proposing to increase the state and local tax (SALT) deduction to $80,000 through 2026, up from the current level of $10,000. Doing so would provide a tax cut worth about $285 billion over the next five years, with almost all of the benefits flowing to the top 10% of households.
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The SALT must flow Am I the first one on that?
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Eric Cantonese posted:Sounds like you're feeling pretty... SALTy about it. superjew posted:The SALT must flow I prefer "rubbing SALT in the wound" because it's both descriptive + figuratively accurate.
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VitalSigns posted:No I did not, I said I hadn't heard a good explanation why he can't be fired for cause for grafting and sabotaging the company, you moved the goalposts to criminal charges. VitalSigns posted:Ok but so what. Do you ever stop before you post and think "what am I actually arguing about"? Because I feel like it would save you a lot of wear and tear on the old typing fingers.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Josh Hawley is now filibustering the NDAA as well unless they vote on his amendment to remove the provision requiring women to be included in selected service/the draft. Why does Josh Hawley not support ARE TROOPS?
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Mellow Seas posted:Do you ever stop before you post and think "what am I actually arguing about"? Because I feel like it would save you a lot of wear and tear on the old typing fingers. Could you elaborate why you think quoting those two posts is some kind of own?
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Yeah, urban hick wannabes love to dip for some reason. It's also really popular in agriculture work. Look at this p'takh with no honor, can't even spell Gowron correctly. You dishonor your house.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:It does. It just requires insurance and pharmacies to not have a cost higher than $35 per 30-day supply for the end user. yeah, i'm gonna make a lil bit of an effort post here since, you know, there's like eight empty insulin pens on my desk in front of me basically, type 1 diabetics take a basal or once-a-day insulin, and also a short acting insulin before meals. the list price of the short-acting one i take is humalog, at a cool list price of $530.40. the long lasting one i take [strike]is[/strike] as of a letter i got a week ago that gave me a heart attack because it ain't covered anymore, is lantus. lantus's list price is $491.16, but apparently mylar created Literally The Same Thing As Lantus To The Point You Can Freely Switch and it was approved by the FDA a few months ago, and that insulin''s cost is a cool $150.40. a box of each lasts me about a month. are those numbers terrifying? no poo poo. do the non-american diabetics go "wow that's hosed up i get my humalog piped directly in from my tap"? of course. does everybody pay that horrific price? more often than you think, and this is bad. there are indeed cards you sign up for that if you have no insurance or commercial insurance you get a capped rate of, in the humalog's case, $35/mo and you just need to fill out annual paperwork to refill the card. those prices are still horrific, especially considering 90% of the cost is to pay for some rear end in a top hat lobbyist's golf trip with a congressperson to make sure their three-company monopoly stays intact. so yes, rooting for that $35/mo insulin thing to remain intact. like, a lot. Craig K fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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