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THE BAR posted:What does Bidenesque even mean? I can't name a single identifying policy of that man. Halloween Jack posted:Look water-fat,
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I can't believe I had to learn that this existed from the RIP lowtax thread: https://calvinanddune.tumblr.com/
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Lincoln posted:Yeah, check out the Riftwar saga by Raymond Feist. It’s fantasy, not Sci-fi, but the world-building is deep and subtle. Very high-quality writing. The three novels are Magician (split into two novels, usually), Silverthorn, and Darkness at Sethanon. I bounced right off the first book. It's not well written at all. Easy answer for sure quality: Ursula Le Guin. I think Left Hand of Darkness did a great job showing the deep level of creativity and world building you see in Dune.
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It's a different kind of world building but I really like the Malazan Book of the Fallen and it has like 20 books sprawling all over 200,000 years of history
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Nov 21, 2021 06:44
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re: world building i recommend gene wolfe. book of the new sun and and book of the long sun are both fascinating series' and i think any fan of the world building in the dune books would enjoy what he does
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Earwicker posted:re: world building i recommend gene wolfe. book of the new sun and and book of the long sun are both fascinating series' and i think any fan of the world building in the dune books would enjoy what he does Particularly the natural by-the-wayside nature of letting the reader in verrrry slowly but through awesome AHA moments. Like the currency in the Book of the Long Sun being these golden cards with intricate patterns on them that turn out to be circuit boards cannibalized from the generation ship the entire story is set on E: I think Gene Wolfe matches Herbert's tone and pacing well too. Also that's a serious spoiler so don't click if you haven't read them yet and plan to
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Nov 21, 2021 08:20
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Gene Wolfes problem is that he's a decent enough writer that when he describes things like people having fights with giant razor-sharp leaves it just reveals the ridiculousness, frank is a bad enough writer with his ahhh-h-h-h-h-h and his Could he be the Kwisatz Haderach? Jessica expectorated internally that it makes the bonkers poo poo endearing e: what im trying to say is that Gene Wolfe could never come up with a word as awfully genius as beefswelling
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Nov 21, 2021 08:35
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If you're into desert planet ecologies the whole rgb mars trilogy is quite good tho I admit I didn't finish it for reasons unknown. But the first 1,5 books were good
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Nov 21, 2021 08:39
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has anyone itt read any of herbert's non-dune books or series? my dad had one with books called destination void and the jesus incident that seemed to be mostly about ai and clones and an ocean planet called pandora. i tried it as a teenager but couldnt get into it
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The dosadi experiment is good and weird
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Re worldbuilding, maybe some of Jack Vance's series, like Planet of Adventure and Demon Princes, or even Dying Earth.
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Earwicker posted:has anyone itt read any of herbert's non-dune books or series? my dad had one with books called destination void and the jesus incident that seemed to be mostly about ai and clones and an ocean planet called pandora. i tried it as a teenager but couldnt get into it None of them are as good as Dune, but there is some neat stuff in there, I enjoyed the destination Void series. It has crazy ecology and superhumans.
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Nov 21, 2021 14:06
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niethan posted:If you're into desert planet ecologies the whole rgb mars trilogy is quite good tho I admit I didn't finish it for reasons unknown. But the first 1,5 books were good I think I read the first two of those, though I was pretty young and don't think I got a lot of it.
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Blue Mars (book 2) has one of the most incredible non-action sequences, my favorite part of the whole trilogy is just a guy born on Mars visiting Earth for the first time and being assaulted with the light of the sun, the heat and humidity, the water, and just LIFE teeming everywhere. It was seriously almost a religious experience for me that made me appreciate this world from a whole new perspective.
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Worldbuilding is why nearly all popular speculative fiction is garbage now. Wolfe is a genius because he can actually write prose.
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Rgb Mars has the honor of having one of the most infuriatingly shitheaded cast of protagonists ever written, except it's still good
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Earwicker posted:has anyone itt read any of herbert's non-dune books or series? my dad had one with books called destination void and the jesus incident that seemed to be mostly about ai and clones and an ocean planet called pandora. i tried it as a teenager but couldnt get into it Destination Void is pretty standard insane Frank Herbert stuff that feels a little dry-run for God Emperor at points. The Jesus Incident and to a lesser extent The Lazarus Factor are a huge transparent influence on SMAC. I didnt finish the 4th book in that yet but one day. Hellstrom's Hive is pretty gripping in a 'oh geez oh god' sort of way with some proto fleshdancer stuff/clear influence for the hive in SMAC.
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Lincoln posted:Yeah, check out the Riftwar saga by Raymond Feist. It’s fantasy, not Sci-fi, but the world-building is deep and subtle. Very high-quality writing. The three novels are Magician (split into two novels, usually), Silverthorn, and Darkness at Sethanon. Remember when Tomas finds the Valheru armor and when he puts it on he grows huge and his raw machismo makes elven female pussies so wet they can't resist his sexual abuse ...yeah You can tell that these characters were created in Feist's dungeons and dragons group which he readily admits.
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glad to see Ursula k LeGuin and Gene Wolfe name dropped itt. I have book of the new sun sitting on my shelf... I'll get to it as soon as I finish dune, I promise!
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Earwicker posted:has anyone itt read any of herbert's non-dune books or series? my dad had one with books called destination void and the jesus incident that seemed to be mostly about ai and clones and an ocean planet called pandora. i tried it as a teenager but couldnt get into it Hellstrom's Hive. top notch sci fi horrorshow.
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Winifred Madgers posted:Blue Mars (book 2) has one of the most incredible non-action sequences, my favorite part of the whole trilogy is just a guy born on Mars visiting Earth for the first time and being assaulted with the light of the sun, the heat and humidity, the water, and just LIFE teeming everywhere. It was seriously almost a religious experience for me that made me appreciate this world from a whole new perspective. It's a great sequence, isn't it. Have you read KSR's Aurora? There's a really interesting contrast there, but I don't want to spoil it either.
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Tree Bucket posted:It's a great sequence, isn't it. I haven't, I've read several others of his books though and he's a really talented writer, one of my favorites when I'm in the mood for something that rises well above entertaining schlock.
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Ror posted:Denis please use a scientifically accurate voice
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My Lovely Horse posted:legit thought this was a Mitchell & Webb sketch for far longer than justified You can't convince me it's not
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tactlessbastard posted:Rgb Mars has the honor of having one of the most infuriatingly shitheaded cast of protagonists ever written, except it's still good That's why I couldn't finish it. I couldn't spend my lesure time with those people. Why won't my autocorrect fix leasure Leisure There is it
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Earwicker posted:has anyone itt read any of herbert's non-dune books or series? my dad had one with books called destination void and the jesus incident that seemed to be mostly about ai and clones and an ocean planet called pandora. i tried it as a teenager but couldnt get into it The Dune series isn't Herbert's best work. Dune itself is great, but Destination: Void, Helstrom's Hive, and Whipping Star just to name three are better that (at least) any of the Dune sequels. Destination: Void is a challenge to build a true AI or die, and leads into the Pandora cycle which combines ecology with spirituality the same way Dune remixed ecology and politics. Helstrom's is straight horror, and deeply effective at it; you get some proto-Tleilaxu poo poo like "reproductive stumps". Creepy as hell. Whipping Star is wonderfully bizarre, and has some short stories and The Dosadi Experiment as sequels; Dosadi is about an experiment in creating supersoldiers that succeeds too well. When you give up on the Dune sequels, Herbert still has more of the good stuff.
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kalel posted:glad to see Ursula k LeGuin and Gene Wolfe name dropped itt. I have book of the new sun sitting on my shelf... I'll get to it as soon as I finish dune, I promise! Also Karl Schroeder. Ventus and the whole Sun of Suns series are both pretty fuckin' great.
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kiimo posted:Remember when Tomas finds the Valheru armor and when he puts it on he grows huge and his raw machismo makes elven female pussies so wet they can't resist his sexual abuse what
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mllaneza posted:Helstrom's is straight horror, and deeply effective at it; you get some proto-Tleilaxu poo poo like "reproductive stumps". Creepy as hell. wanna know more about those stumps
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Mister Speaker posted:wanna know more about those stumps ya know what an axolotl tank is right? imagine the real world version of that.
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Mister Speaker posted:wanna know more about those stumps hellstrom's hive is a gripping horror show i read all of it in a day because aaaaaa
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Ramc posted:hellstrom's hive is a gripping horror show i read all of it in a day because aaaaaa  it was so good and I couldn't put it down but also fuuuuuuuucking hell
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i just thought... we had more time...
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euphronius posted:I think you missed a lot of what was going in the movie wrt to the the voice esp the thopter scene which went exactly how you wanted it to be I really liked the way the the Lynch version handled Jessica's use of the Voice in that particular scene. Jessica (speaking normally, maybe even a little seductively), "There's no need to" (switching to the Voice) "FIGHT OVER ME". Azathoth Prime fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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Ingmar terdman posted:A week ago I watched dunc and spicediver back to back and I honestly think that Lynch has more verbatim and semi-verbatim book lines. Dunc still feels much more like the book though I agree completely. I'd been struggling to describe how I feel about the differences between the films and you've summarized it nicely.
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Mister Speaker posted:wanna know more about those stumps Buddy, they won't let ME..
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I am cursed t o wander the scorched sand hell that is Australia so I used my 1 free token on Audible because my attention span post pandemic is shot. I had a hearty chuckle as my friend Chani (pro Cha!nee vs the audio book pron. CHAYne) but named for the same character because her folks were exaxtly that era of hippie turbo nerds. She went on to name her late and lovely dog Feyd which was very  and after listening to the book I finally realized where that particular refrence was.Which also as far as pop culture refrencing Dune - I was like Gieldi Prime... where had I heard that before... Gieldi Primes is an early Grimes album. Suddenly things make a lot more sense about her (also despite that the album does slap).
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lt_kennedy posted:I am cursed t o wander the scorched sand hell that is Australia so I used my 1 free token on Audible because my attention span post pandemic is shot. Yep. God created A
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