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Platystemon posted:We need to get the writer of this 1997 WIRED graphic on the line to tell us what’s happening next. I'm still amazed by this. Not only the accuracy, but how it came from an era where most future predictions bordered on Star Trek levels of naïve optimism.
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Nuclear Tourist posted:I'm still amazed by this. Not only the accuracy, but how it came from an era where most future predictions bordered on Star Trek levels of naïve optimism. I feel like this comes out the guy who used to play lots of wargaming scenarios specifically Harpoon. You need to come up with bullshit reasons for war that can override the situation at the time.
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Nuclear Tourist posted:I'm still amazed by this. Not only the accuracy, but how it came from an era where most future predictions bordered on Star Trek levels of naïve optimism. The 90s, the era where teens just thought suicide was the coolest loving things, was absolutely full of dystopian future predictions. We looked at blade runner and decided that was the optimistic prediction.
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Nuclear Tourist posted:I'm still amazed by this. Not only the accuracy, but how it came from an era where most future predictions bordered on Star Trek levels of naïve optimism. I've never seen TOS, but in defense of 90s Trek both TNG and DS9 leaned into some sort of societal collapse happening before anything got better. 
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Yeah because if you grew up in the 80s you generally realistically thought that it was a 50/50 proposition that humanity wouldn't even exist beyond whatever imminent nuclear conflict would flare up. It's a little easier to internalize something like that actually happening versus climate change where it might be quick it might be slow we're not really sure how it's actually going to manifest and in what direct ways. Whereas you know mushroom clouds nuclear winter all that stuff I think we had a pretty good idea of how that was going to go.
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We could also see the corporate dystopia bullshit that has come to pass being inevitable. Basically, gen x is apathetic as gently caress because we expected a choice between pretty poo poo futures and didn't believe fighting would ever actually achieve anything. Sorry guys
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I’m still pretty optimistic about the future like 70 or 80 years out. The next 20 or 30 or so I think are going to be very rough. Like more or less we’re 1920 right now and you just gotta power through to 1975 before things start really looking up again.
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RFC2324 posted:The 90s, the era where teens just thought suicide was the coolest loving things, was absolutely full of dystopian future predictions. We looked at blade runner and decided that was the optimistic prediction. There was a brief period after the Berlin Wall fell and the '91 coup attempt failed that there might've been some hope for the future, but the people who were in the best position to start that ball rolling just started looking for the next scam and then internet porn came along to become the new "opiate of the masses." I also remember watching the Orange Revolution in Ukraine in late 2004/early 2005 where hundreds of thousands of protesters filled Independence Square in Kiev to protest Yanukovych stealing the election. I remember thinking "wow, they've got the right idea - I don't think we have that kind of thing in us anymore." History is funny sometimes.  RFC2324 posted:Basically, gen x is apathetic as gently caress because we expected a choice between pretty poo poo futures and didn't believe fighting would ever actually achieve anything. Sorry guys Pretty much. I'm never having kids. I still hold out hope for getting married and *adopting*. While I have no biological desire to reproduce, I would very much like to be a father. No kid should have to go through what's coming without a familial structure. I resent the gently caress out of my parents whenever they judge me for not being as far along in "adulthood" than they were at my current age. My father "gets it" way more than my mother, but that's only because he's now a compensation analyst for the DoD and he knows *some* semblance of what it's like for anyone under O-4 to make a decent or comfortable living in this ~Brave New World~. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Nov 21, 2021 |
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Generation Internet posted:I've never seen TOS, but in defense of 90s Trek both TNG and DS9 leaned into some sort of societal collapse happening before anything got better. Fair enough, though I still seem to recall how picking up any vaguely techy magazine or science textbook in 90's would shower you in predictions about how we were going to have Mars colonies by 2010 and how we all were going to enjoy Better Living Through Technology.
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Nuclear Tourist posted:Fair enough, though I still seem to recall how picking up any vaguely techy magazine or science textbook in 90's would shower you in predictions about how we were going to have Mars colonies by 2010 and how we all were going to enjoy Better Living Through Technology. Less of our modern propaganda is promising a sparkling future, yes, but then look at all the smart poo poo and stuff that actually got delivered, but in lovely form.
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It’s also important to remember that some things have actually gotten better. Quality of life for the average person, especially Chinese person, improved unfathomably fast in the last few decades and the average American’s quality of life has more just stagnated than actually gotten worse.
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Generation Internet posted:I've never seen TOS, but in defense of 90s Trek both TNG and DS9 leaned into some sort of societal collapse happening before anything got better. TOS, TNG, and DS9 established that the Star Trek utopia that people like to bag on so much only happened after - the eugenics wars - the de jure ghettoization of the poor - the post-atomic horror
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RFC2324 posted:Less of our modern propaganda is promising a sparkling future, yes, but then look at all the smart poo poo and stuff that actually got delivered, but in lovely form. I don’t know AT&T and Tom Selleck were pretty loving on point. Hell I would even argue that what we got was even better than what was promised (in reference to these ads). https://youtu.be/LN_DkXcWe9A https://youtu.be/a2EgfkhC1eo
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RFC2324 posted:Less of our modern propaganda is promising a sparkling future, yes, but then look at all the smart poo poo and stuff that actually got delivered, but in lovely form. RFC2324 posted:We could also see the corporate dystopia bullshit that has come to pass being inevitable. What a coincidence that children could be directly advertised to from that generation forward!
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Stultus Maximus posted:TOS, TNG, and DS9 established that the Star Trek utopia that people like to bag on so much only happened after I apologize, my last dose of Star Trek included Chancellor Troi explaining in a very patronizing tone of voice to a time traveler from Earth's past about how disease and war had been eradicated and how all the bad things were gone now.
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I really liked that episode of Babylon 5 where the main cast kept getting holographically replicated over and over for centuries every time fascists needed do a cadaver synod for propaganda
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shame on an IGA posted:I really liked that episode of Babylon 5 where the main cast kept getting holographically replicated over and over for centuries every time fascists needed do a cadaver synod for propaganda Last episode of season 4.
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Nuclear Tourist posted:I apologize, my last dose of Star Trek included Chancellor Troi explaining in a very patronizing tone of voice to a time traveler from Earth's past about how disease and war had been eradicated and how all the bad things were gone now. I actually thought you meant Lwaxana and was seriously trying to remember this.
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Nuclear Tourist posted:Chancellor Troi Imagine I lazily pasted Troi's head onto Gowron's body here.jpg
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I meant Counselor of course, autocorrect strikes again 
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Chancellor Troi is from the timeline where she marries Worf and finds success in the Klingon Empire.
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Consuela Troi
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I thought Chancellor Troi was when she subverted the galactic senate and took over?
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McNally posted:Imagine I lazily pasted Gowron's eyes onto Troi's face here.jpg
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I feel that I should really be thanked for accidentally inventing the coolest TNG alternate timeline.
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:I’m still pretty optimistic about the future like 70 or 80 years out. The next 20 or 30 or so I think are going to be very rough. well, at least we get the better aesthetics, right? when is art deco coming back
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I'm sensing a great deal of qapla in this thread
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Nuclear Tourist posted:I apologize, my last dose of Star Trek included Chancellor Troi explaining in a very patronizing tone of voice to a time traveler from Earth's past about how disease and war had been eradicated and how all the bad things were gone now. And then "The Drumhead" happened. And the coup attempt by hardliners in DS9 during the Dominion War. And whatever the gently caress was going on in "Into Darkness."  Fun fact: the "important 80s businessman" from the episode I think you're referencing went on to become the Federation Ambassador to Ferenginar in the apocrypha.
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Mirconium posted:9.5, it wasn't cancer, it turned out it was actually microdick and sterility. Which the writer probably pitched but then the editor was like "c'mon man" The widespread cancer one's box to check is "it would overwhelm the health system" and we kinda get two for one on that one since COVID did that too. (And since it was 1997 I think widespread cancer was probably really "what if it turns out that cell phones and power lines ACTUALLY DO cause cancer?")
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The Eyes Have It posted:The widespread cancer one's box to check is "it would overwhelm the health system" and we kinda get two for one on that one since COVID did that too. I don’t think it’s fair to include the present pandemic as counting for the cancer scenario, in spirit, because there’s already a specifically enumerated pandemic on the list. It’s a nice touch of them to suggest it’s “a modern‐day influenza epidemic or its equivalent”. Influenza was by far the favorite for respiratory viruses with pandemic potential. Coronaviruses were a complete backwater till SARS came along in 2003. If the author had a specific threat in mind, besides influenza, it was probably paramyxoviruses like Nipah virus.
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The Eyes Have It posted:The widespread cancer one's box to check is "it would overwhelm the health system" and we kinda get two for one on that one since COVID did that too. You could also live in New Zealand, the country where white people spent 30 years sunbathing under the ozone hole
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McNally posted:Chancellor Troi is from the timeline where she marries Quark and finds success in the Klingon Empire.
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What the gently caress is in the water in wisconsin? Lead. Probably.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:What the gently caress is in the water in wisconsin? https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1462568168933707776 https://twitter.com/SamKraemerTV/status/1462560504208146438 Not Great! Unconfirmed reports about the driver firing a rifle too, don't know how many killed/injured, it's a mess. https://apnews.com/article/lifestyl...aign=SocialFlow
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The video of the car driving over barriers on the way out, you can see the back passenger window break out. Cop trotting behind it looked like he was firing. CNN ran that video clip a few minutes ago. This video https://twitter.com/wxandnews/status/1462562235344199688?s=20 CRUSTY MINGE fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Nov 22, 2021 |
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I miss when my first thought seeing that would have been "jfc, did some grandpa forget which is the gas and which is the brake again?" You know, like...21 years ago.
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