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FizFashizzle posted:Love my President embracing idiotic republican talking points as policy. Desperate attempts to gain another voter cross all party lines.
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FizFashizzle posted:Love my President embracing idiotic republican talking points as policy. Makes sense, he already embraced the idea that the stimulus checks caused inflation.
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Nov 23, 2021 13:38
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The strategic reserve has to be the dumbest talking point. You have that so that you can run for a month if you get a pipeline bombed or unrestricted submarine warfare makes all the Corp shipping flee like cowards. Releasing any amount of it won't shift prices one cent. Because that's not where the problem is. You have a distribution backlog because hazmat trucking pays peanuts and sucks rear end if you like socializing.
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Nov 23, 2021 13:43
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FizFashizzle posted:Love my President embracing idiotic republican talking points as policy. Like Obama, he probably thinks that if he does what they ask, he might get their support for something else.
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Nov 23, 2021 13:48
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Barrel Cactaur posted:The strategic reserve has to be the dumbest talking point. You have that so that you can run for a month if you get a pipeline bombed or unrestricted submarine warfare makes all the Corp shipping flee like cowards. Releasing any amount of it won't shift prices one cent. Because that's not where the problem is. You have a distribution backlog because hazmat trucking pays peanuts and sucks rear end if you like socializing.
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Nov 23, 2021 13:55
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Once all of those college and graduate degree holding long distance truckers start paying back their student loans they will be desperate enough to return to the job without any change in working condition such as pay scale and thus capital is not threatened and the problem is solved. Surely this plan cannot backfire because the people making these decisions are brain geniuses that clearly have a finger on the pulse of reality for the peasant class.
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Nov 23, 2021 14:39
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Releasing oil from the strategic reserve to relieve a temporary clustertruck that's causing a spike in oil prices seems like exactly the sort of situation where you should use the reserves, and by definition is a one-time band-aid fix while we work out a solution. Are y'all so eager to hate Biden that you've got to make lower gas prices into a bad thing?
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Nov 23, 2021 14:54
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Tibalt posted:Releasing oil from the strategic reserve to relieve a temporary clustertruck that's causing a spike in oil prices seems like exactly the sort of situation where you should use the reserves, and by definition is a one-time band-aid fix while we work out a solution. He's been very poor about the climate, and this measure will do nothing to alleviate gas prices. His numbers will not improve. I think once the Congress is fully Republican, his numbers will tick up, but 2024 will be a true test for Biden. Nonsense fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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Nov 23, 2021 15:01
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Nonsense posted:He's been very poor about the climate, and this measure will do nothing to alleviate gas prices. His numbers will not improve. He hasn't been poor on climate and adding supply may reduces prices.
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Nov 23, 2021 15:21
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:He hasn't been poor on climate citations needed
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Nov 23, 2021 15:23
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This is just stupid https://twitter.com/derekwillis/status/1463153305803182087 I know books are already one way politicians can get money funnelled to them, to make it easier is just asinine.
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Nov 23, 2021 15:36
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:He hasn't been poor on climate and adding supply may reduces prices. For one, just yesterday, he renominated Jerome Powell to chair the fed instead of literally anyone who understands and is willing to act on the relationship between the economy and climate change. Or, last week, just after promising to lead the world at COP 26, Biden authorized a massive auction of 80M acres for drilling in the Gulf. This locks us into years (decades?) of more emissions. Dude is poor on climate, prove me wrong.
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Nov 23, 2021 15:37
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Leon Sumbitches posted:For one, just yesterday, he renominated Jerome Powell to chair the fed instead of literally anyone who understands and is willing to act on the relationship between the economy and climate change. He's authorizing more drilling because I don't think you're gonna completely wean off oil in 30 years. The technology just isn't there yet. You either pull the ripcord and start something resembling chaos now as oil prices skyrocket or you try to buy time with cheap energy while you work on another fix. The issue is they aren't investing in a fix. Western civilization is way too dependent on fossil fuels for us to arbitrarily stop supply of oil without a backup plan. Eventually clean energy is going to replace fossil fuel energy just by free market forces. But you still need to jumpstart it with federal funds which I can see being resisted by the profiteering fossil fuel companies. I think both industries require investment until oil dependence is reduced by alternate technologies.
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Nov 23, 2021 15:55
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Kraftwerk posted:He's authorizing more drilling because I don't think you're gonna completely wean off oil in 30 years. The technology just isn't there yet. You either pull the ripcord and start something resembling chaos now as oil prices skyrocket or you try to buy time with cheap energy while you work on another fix. The issue is they aren't investing in a fix. Western civilization is way too dependent on fossil fuels for us to arbitrarily stop supply of oil without a backup plan. Again: He didn't authorize it. The Courts did. Red States sued because he was refusing to authorize it during the pause and review of leases. This gets brought up over and over and its completely taken out of context. It is currently on appeal. https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/544720-14-states-sue-biden-administration-over-leasing-pause-for-public Also: LMAO that the Free Market is going to solve Climate Change. The Free Market got us in this mess. The Free Market is why Natural Gas is replacing Nuclear Plants. The Free Market doesn't give a loving poo poo. Leon Sumbitches posted:For one, just yesterday, he renominated Jerome Powell to chair the fed instead of literally anyone who understands and is willing to act on the relationship between the economy and climate change. Jerome Powell was an Obama appointee to the Board of Governors before Trump appointed him Chairman. He's been there before Trump. And also: Previous poster is right, the problem is OPEC is squeezing us right now because a certain Saudi leader is pissy Biden won't meet with him. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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Nov 23, 2021 16:01
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CommieGIR posted:Again: He didn't authorize it. The Courts did. Red States sued because he was refusing to authorize it during the pause and review of leases. This gets brought up over and over and its completely taken out of context. I'm not saying the free market will fix it on its own. I'm saying you build clean energy in parallel and eventually you wont be able to avoid using it because it'll be better than whatever the fossil fuel companies are doing now. Maybe I'm optimistic. But the reason everyone's using natural gas and other stuff is because its cheaper due to the high up front costs of setting up a clean energy infrastructure... That's why government investment in R&D and infrastructure is so important. No one else will do it but there's always a benefit at the end.
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Nov 23, 2021 16:25
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Apparently NYC is going to approve voting in local elections for permanent residents and foreigners with working visas and a lot of Americans who earned their citizenship the hard way by choosing to be born here are real mad about the un-American idea of representation for taxation.
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Nov 23, 2021 16:25
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Leon Sumbitches posted:For one, just yesterday, he renominated Jerome Powell to chair the fed instead of literally anyone who understands and is willing to act on the relationship between the economy and climate change. that was a trump era deal that the biden admin tried to stop but a court ruled against them
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Nov 23, 2021 16:28
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Meatball posted:Like Obama, he probably thinks that if he does what they ask, he might get their support for something else. Think of all the political capital he's racking up to use on things later 
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Nov 23, 2021 16:31
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Unlike Obama, Biden has already gotten Republicans to help him with a thing. Yes, the bipartisan infrastructure bill threw progressives under the bus and endangered the entire BBB bill, but Obama threw progressives under the bus and abandoned huge parts of his agenda without getting Republicans to help him with anything.
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Nov 23, 2021 16:35
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the_steve posted:Think of all the political capital he's racking up to use on things later I'm excited for the day when a dem president finally uses that political capital I hear so many things about instead of spending all that time charging it up.
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Nov 23, 2021 16:38
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Meatball posted:Like Obama, he probably thinks that if he does what they ask, he might get their support for something else. Are we sure this isn't more about looking like he's doing something on an issue where he otherwise can't do much at all? Weren't posters here complaining about that earlier? Biden really does need to look like he's doing everything he possibly can. I think a lot more visible performative steps, even if it got knocked down by GOP-appointed judges, would help him politically. That shouldn't be the ultimate decisionmaking thought process, but that is an unfortunately important part of being leader of our stupid country.
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Nov 23, 2021 16:38
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Kraftwerk posted:He's authorizing more drilling because I don't think you're gonna completely wean off oil in 30 years. The technology just isn't there yet. You either pull the ripcord and start something resembling chaos now as oil prices skyrocket or you try to buy time with cheap energy while you work on another fix. The issue is they aren't investing in a fix. Western civilization is way too dependent on fossil fuels for us to arbitrarily stop supply of oil without a backup plan. As a pedantic aside, we will never be fully free of oil. Something like 12% of all oil and oil by-products (petrochemicals, natural gas, etc) drilled is used for non-energy uses - plastics, solvents, asphalt, fabrics, fertilizers; even when we stop burning the stuff we will still drill for it.
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Nov 23, 2021 16:41
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Kraftwerk posted:I'm not saying the free market will fix it on its own. I'm saying you build clean energy in parallel and eventually you wont be able to avoid using it because it'll be better than whatever the fossil fuel companies are doing now. The solution we need that can actually deal with Climate change is already here. We keep closing them like Indian Point. Illinois actually did the right thing and saved their nuclear plants. skylined! posted:As a pedantic aside, we will never be fully free of oil. Something like 12% of all oil and oil by-products (petrochemicals, natural gas, etc) drilled is used for non-energy uses - plastics, solvents, asphalt, fabrics, fertilizers; even when we stop burning the stuff we will still drill for it. Yeah, there's always going to be a need for hydrocarbons for things, but ending the burning of them is a significant step.
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Nov 23, 2021 16:43
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skylined! posted:As a pedantic aside, we will never be fully free of oil. Something like 12% of all oil and oil by-products (petrochemicals, natural gas, etc) drilled is used for non-energy uses - plastics, solvents, asphalt, fabrics, fertilizers; even when we stop burning the stuff we will still drill for it. Yes... and since this is a non renewable resource with no substitutes we're really going to want to reduce our use to leave enough for those applications. I'm hopeful that anything that can't be electrified can be migrated to some kind of algae derived biofuel. It's frustrating that we have all these potential solutions and zero will from the state to invest in them and get ahead of the curve. I mean OPEC can decide the economic fates of entire continents and we're still sitting on our hands continuing to depend on oil as a strategic resource for energy.
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Nov 23, 2021 16:43
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Kraftwerk posted:I'm hopeful that anything that can't be electrified can be migrated to some kind of algae derived biofuel. It's frustrating that we have all these potential solutions and zero will from the state to invest in them and get ahead of the curve. I mean OPEC can decide the economic fates of entire continents and we're still sitting on our hands continuing to depend on oil as a strategic resource for energy. But that's the problem: OPEC commands that ability because we cannot replace large portions in a timely manner. Like cars: Maybe if there was a massive subsidy to move off fossil cars, we could shake OPEC's resolve. There's not. Also, there's the issue that a large amount of electricity needed to power electric cars is fossil derived, so you just move the goal posts, that or electrifying mass transit means we need to replace, joule for joule of energy, fossil with other sources. We can already do that. Really, we need less R&D, more subsidies and national construction efforts to build out renewable and nuclear infrastructure. We already have all the tech we need, what we need is to actually build it.
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Nov 23, 2021 16:46
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CommieGIR posted:Really, we need less R&D, more subsidies and national construction efforts to build out renewable and nuclear infrastructure. We already have all the tech we need, what we need is to actually build it. And build it quickly. At the same time, although a lot of the popular worries about nuclear power are overblown, you do want to build your nuclear power plants with an almost "overbuilding" mindset, no? The conflict between the economic and political consequences of a plant going wrong mixed versus the usual free market incentives to halfass things whenever you can to maximize profits really gums up the works. It makes plant construction a really long process full of delays and that's ignoring the local resistance you often run into once construction is announced.
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Nov 23, 2021 16:50
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Eric Cantonese posted:And build it quickly. There's also the fact that we've been out of the business of building nuclear plants for nearly 20 years. This problem is happening at Votgle: We're having to re-learn how we do this as engineering plans meet the real world of construction. Versus the Russians who have made the VVER series of reactors practically into an assembly line and can repeat the construction over and over with ease.
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Nov 23, 2021 16:52
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https://mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1463167961116471296 They were just tourists though, right guys?
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Nov 23, 2021 17:02
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Hey thread, what have y’all been up to over the weeke- WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Yes it's blended so heavily into pop. It's just more appealing to the "libs" and by this I mean the Republican kids that are just as lib as real libs. They need club music that's also CommieGIR posted:There's also the fact that we've been out of the business of building nuclear plants for nearly 20 years. This problem is happening at Votgle: We're having to re-learn how we do this as engineering plans meet the real world of construction.
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CommieGIR posted:There's also the fact that we've been out of the business of building nuclear plants for nearly 20 years. This problem is happening at Votgle: We're having to re-learn how we do this as engineering plans meet the real world of construction. To this point, there are more people in China who know how to build a Westinghouse AP1000 plant than there are at Westinghouse US.
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Nov 23, 2021 17:06
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osker posted:To this point, there are more people in China who know how to build a Westinghouse AP1000 plant than there are at Westinghouse US. Yup, and to that end China is also doing a lot more construction of newer Gen IV reactors like the new Pebble Bed reactor they just brought online and will connect to the grid before the end of the year https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/Chinas-HTR-PM-reactor-achieves-first-criticality This is kind of the highlight in our fight against Climate Change: We need to stop pretending its an R&D issue. The solutions are here, its the impetus to actually build and invest in them rather than cheap and dirty tech that is lacking. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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Nov 23, 2021 17:10
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Trazz posted:Oh really? What's the Democratic equivalent of the Southern Strategy Just catching up but I believe it was called the "Sister Souljah moment" I think it also had other names like "Tough On Crime" etc
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Nov 23, 2021 17:11
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VitalSigns posted:Just catching up but I believe it was called the "Sister Souljah moment" What was the "Sister Soulja moment"? I know it was a Clinton-era thing. e: Never mind; apparently there's a whole Wikipedia article on it. I was just a kid during the 1992 election but drat...Clinton sucked far worse than I thought.
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Nov 23, 2021 17:12
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CommieGIR posted:There's also the fact that we've been out of the business of building nuclear plants for nearly 20 years. This problem is happening at Votgle: We're having to re-learn how we do this as engineering plans meet the real world of construction. Its probably why Wyoming is basically taking naval reactors and putting them in buildings. 3 Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukushima has terrified everyone on a wider scale than MRNA vaccines. I wish there was a way to undo this fear or to brazenly proceed with nuclear without giving a poo poo what people think (See: The French).
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Kraftwerk posted:Its probably why Wyoming is basically taking naval reactors and putting them in buildings. Things are changing, believe it or not, public perception of nuclear power is actually above 50% approval for the first time since the 80s. So hopefully that'll help. SMRs also will help a lot because it eliminates the massive overbuilding requirements and makes modularity and assembly line construction easy. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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Nov 23, 2021 17:18
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AmiYumi posted:Hey thread, what have y’all been up to over the weeke- Nah, I just mean that new country music is appealing to the conservative kids who are really just liberals at heart with a Trump banner or flag. They want to party smoke flavored juul pods and chill, but they don't always want rap music to be an outlet of expression. Thus country pop.
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Nov 23, 2021 17:19
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Kraftwerk posted:Its probably why Wyoming is basically taking naval reactors and putting them in buildings. The m is lowercase, like m'Lady, because mRNA was discovered by a goon
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Nov 23, 2021 17:20
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:What was the "Sister Soulja moment"? I know it was a Clinton-era thing. Gotta love that her clapback to old Slick Willie calling her the black equivalent to David Duke was to point out Bill was still a member of a whites-only golf club in 1992, and he only finally resigned his membership because it would look bad in his presidential campaign. Obviously it wasn't a problem in his gubernatorial campaigns because well Arkansas
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Nov 23, 2021 17:23
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Nah, I just mean that new country music is appealing to the conservative kids who are really just liberals at heart with a Trump banner or flag. They want to party smoke flavored juul pods and chill, but they don't always want rap music to be an outlet of expression. Thus country pop. Taylor Swift made the country/pop line impossible to distinguish, not that it was all that strong for the prior 40 years.
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Decon posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1463167961116471296 It wasn't just a gun, it was some insane shotgun pistol thing made to skirt around sawed off shotgun laws. If he'd shot anyone with it, at pistol range... I don't even want to think about the damage it could have done.
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