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Sharkie posted:Then what are you saying? Why bring up rightwing memes when they have nothing to do with what the Biden administration chooses to do? https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2178069 i'm not sure how to say this without being insulting to you but maybe, juuuuust maybe, the chuds stole the image for their own use instead of your weird conspiracy that they made biden do that? "my image of joe biden is *perfectly describes chud meme* i don't know where i got that image from!" the chuds. you very specifically got that image from people who wanted you to have that image, they created that image, you saw that image, and now you have no idea how you got that image. all i'm telling you is where you got that image from.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Am I reading this right - the fuckers were found guilty and will have to pay? loving good. I had been hearing chatter about a hung jury. Shouldn't have taken the jury more than a minute to throw the book at these bastards. https://twitter.com/socialistdogmom/status/1463242014489813000 https://twitter.com/socialistdogmom/status/1463242026149888005 And we'll have to hope the courts don't slash the damages down significantly. An actual lawyer needs to weigh in, but it looks like the Supreme Court's holding is that punitive damages are usually capped at less than ten times the compensatory damages: which are essentially nothing in the third claim in particular. https://twitter.com/socialistdogmom/status/1463242613218291717 Rebel Blob fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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gently caress: beaten on posting the breakdown of the awards I find it hard to believe the jury really couldn't come to an agreement on charges 1 and 2, conspiracy and hate crime charges seemed obvious and the defense blundered at every turn.
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lil poopendorfer posted:What’s the word on HR1/Voting Rights act? It passed the house in March I saw, but doesn’t seem to have passed the Senate since? I understand Republican opposition but with a dem majority in the senate, why hasn’t it been passed? Oh you sweet summer child This is the Democratic Party, aka the party of "Status Quo for the Rich" They aren't passing meaningful legislation, come on
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InsertPotPun posted:you're referencing a specific meme while saying "i don't know where i got that from" That’s a meme leftists used to torture themselves lol. I never saw conservatives post it, but I’ve seen several variations from leftists as a “lol we are hosed” kind of post. One had the “health care pls” guy on the left and Biden saying like “lol student debt go brrrr” which is a concept that no reactionary has a nuanced enough understanding of the in-party struggles of Dems to make
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Sharkie posted:I've tried to hold this in but I have to say it: does anyone else think the aviator shades are really fake and cringy? Before you answer, please consider your opines about Trump's fake and cringy spraytan. Yes, extremely. I don't have it any more, but I got a flyer for Biden that made it look like he had been in the Navy. Aviators and leather jacket, I think he was even on a boat. It's all a wannabe tough guy image that doesn't match his life at all.
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InsertPotPun posted:you're referencing a specific meme while saying "i don't know where i got that from" Do you think that Chuds are the only people who think Biden is an out of touch old guy?
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InsertPotPun posted:you're referencing a specific meme while saying "i don't know where i got that from" This is literally just an image of Biden:  And that meme doesn't say anything about student loan payments restarting. But the Biden administration has something to say about that! https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/18/biden-student-loan-payment-restart-516194 So yeah my image of Biden wearing aviator sunglasses, eating ice cream, and saying that you have to start repaying student loans come from that - the things the Biden administration is doing and the image they are trying to project. Biden's and his people (yeah, following the Diamond Joe image) created that image, and wanted me to have that image. And they are restarting payments. It's not a lie created by righwing memes. If Democratic Party members do something bad or stupid or cringy it doesn't become fake news just cause lovely people point it out. selec posted:That’s a meme leftists used to torture themselves lol. I never saw conservatives post it, but I’ve seen several variations from leftists as a “lol we are hosed” kind of post. One had the “health care pls” guy on the left and Biden saying like “lol student debt go brrrr” which is a concept that no reactionary has a nuanced enough understanding of the in-party struggles of Dems to make Yeah also this lol, there's nothing rightwing or chuddy about that meme that was posted. Sharkie fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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edit: *shrug* punishedkissinger posted:Do you think that Chuds are the only people who think Biden is an out of touch old guy? thank you for pointing this out, maybe next time i'll click through the link before i post stupid things. because boy, how stupid would someone be to not click a link before commenting on it? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) InsertPotPun fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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With respect to the sunglasses, at least, it's clearly a branding choice of Biden's being reflected. He posted this two days after election day. https://www.instagram.com/p/CHPKPeCAtFg/ They're all over the merch at joebiden.com like that. He gave Putin a pair as a gift. It's not remotely a stretch for someone to associate Biden with them without it being a right wing meme. As far as the authenticity, googling turns up pretty much nothing in the way of anyone talking about Joe Biden and aviators or sunglasses or images of him wearing them, even into the early years of the Obama administration. Whether they're a long time preference of his or not, leaning into that as a part of his brand seems relatively recent. e:  https://store.democrats.org/collections/summer/products/ice-cream-scoop eviltastic fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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lil poopendorfer posted:What’s the word on HR1/Voting Rights act? It passed the house in March I saw, but doesn’t seem to have passed the Senate since? I understand Republican opposition but with a dem majority in the senate, why hasn’t it been passed? My understanding is that Senate Dems can't pass the bill as is right now, as it wouldn't meet the 60 vote threshold with all 50 Republicans holding out against it. They would need to agree to a filibuster carve out for voting rights, which is something that they COULD do, but Manchin (and Sinema? And possibly a few other quieter hold outs?) is holding fast on "no changes to filibuster status" right now, so they CAN'T pass the bill currently. Either 10 Republicans would need to find their souls and pass the bill for the good of the country (unlikely in normal times, doubly so after the death threats leveled against the ones that voted for the BIF), or Manchin would have to change his position on the filibuster (unlikely in normal times, doubly so now that he's basically The Most Important Senator by holding to status quo in all scenarios).
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InsertPotPun posted:edit: that link specifically says that the meme originated from r/neoliberal. what are you talking about and what is your problem?
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TheDisreputableDog posted:To be fair, I’m not aware of Trump drone striking his own citizens because they were on an extrajudicial kill list, but yeah he wasn’t great either. So Trump killed way more people but Obama broke decorum because a few he killed were US citizens?
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TheDisreputableDog posted:To be fair, I’m not aware of Trump drone striking his own citizens because they were on an extrajudicial kill list, but yeah he wasn’t great either. Since he removed what little accountability the entire process had, while heavily expanding it, how would you know?
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TheDisreputableDog posted:To be fair, I’m not aware of Trump drone striking his own citizens because they were on an extrajudicial kill list, but yeah he wasn’t great either. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Nawar_al-Awlaki Now you're aware
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That’s terrible, but completely different from “we are marking this citizen (and his children) for death because we say he’s bad”.
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The simple answer is: Step 1: Biden likes ice cream. He also likes to wear aviator sunglasses. Neither is unusual for an old white guy,. [/spoiler]seriously they're just a common style of sunglasses, it's not like he's going out in full tactical gear[/spoiler] Step 2: Over the course of several years, political reporters trying to catch Biden out often catch him wearing sunglasses and/or eating ice cream. Step 3: https://www.foxnews.com/media/press-fawning-coverage-biden-ice-cream-ohio-embarrassing Step 4: Biden campaign goes "gently caress that, I'm not going to be ashamed of sunglasses or ice cream" So we're to step 5:  Seriously there are good things to get mad at Biden over without him being some guy cultivating a fake fighter pilot image and lording the unimaginable luxury of a scoop of vanilla ice cream over us all.
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During the Trump administration the US got the Taliban to agree to stop attacking US forces by agreeing to pull out of Afghanistan in May, 2021. There were no US KIA from March, 2020 till August, 2021. so the Taliban was upholding its end of the deal. Note this does not mean they did not attack Afghan government forces. May, 2021 was the negotiated deadline for leaving Afghanistan, Biden extended the war 3 months, I'm guess so he could declare the war over on 9/11 for symbolic reasons. Obviously we'll never know if Trump would have followed through on the May, 2021 withdrawal, but that's what was agreed upon.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:That’s terrible, but completely different from “we are marking this citizen (and his children) for death because we say he’s bad”. a) absense of evidence is not evidence of absense b) you get that non-americans are humans, right? this is a particularly gross hill to die on
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PeterCat posted:During the Trump administration the US got the Taliban to agree to stop attacking US forces by agreeing to pull out of Afghanistan in May, 2021. There were no US KIA from March, 2020 till August, 2021. so the Taliban was upholding its end of the deal. Note this does not mean they did not attack Afghan government forces. Donald the Dove. 
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Eric Cantonese posted:Donald the Dove. Joe Biden was also in charge of the withdrawal from Iraq, and that led to a huge clusterfuck. He's 0 for 2.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:That’s terrible, but completely different from “we are marking this citizen (and his children) for death because we say he’s bad”. I clearly don't find such a huge difference between 'I killed the son of a us citizen while targeting said us citizen' and 'i killed the daughter of a us citizen while targeting the associates of said us citizen'
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It's annoying to think of how every withdrawal situation in American history has basically given warhawks ample ammunition to say we never should have gotten out. (I'm not accusing anyone in this forum of thinking that. It's just that "0 for 2" comment brought that thought to mind.)
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TheDisreputableDog posted:That’s terrible, but completely different from “we are marking this citizen (and his children) for death because we say he’s bad”. So your problem with Obama was the part where he bothered to say "because I say he's bad that's why" before murdering an American citizen?
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Youth Decay posted:gently caress: beaten on posting the breakdown of the awards all it takes is a couple of white supremacists
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PeterCat posted:Joe Biden was also in charge of the withdrawal from Iraq, and that led to a huge clusterfuck. Nobody was going to be able to withdraw cleanly from Afghanistan. Biden could have done better yeah, but he's also the only one to actually WITHDRAW. Everyone else made vague noises and half-assed action that was later undone, but Biden actually did it. It was messy yeah but drat, we're actually out of there. The worst mistake he made was not listening enough to the Intel changing rapidly that the Afghan army was disintegrating way faster than anyone expected. But even sloppily done, getting troops out of Afghanistan is one of the unambiguously good things Biden has managed to accomplish. HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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PeterCat posted:Joe Biden was also in charge of the withdrawal from Iraq, and that led to a huge clusterfuck. Are you freaking kidding me? Trump literally made a deal with the Taliban which tied the hands of any incoming administration. Not to mention, Bush Jr really hosed it up too! https://twitter.com/RANDCorporation/status/1432481025599356929?s=20
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:Are you freaking kidding me? Trump literally made a deal with the Taliban which tied the hands of any incoming administration. Not to mention, Bush Jr really hosed it up too! Not a good sign when even the Rand Corp doesn't want to be involved
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:Are you freaking kidding me? Trump literally made a deal with the Taliban which tied the hands of any incoming administration. Not to mention, Bush Jr really hosed it up too!
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Crows Turn Off posted:Any reason why the Biden Admintration couldn't have or shouldn't have just ignored Trump's agreement/plan and done the "right" things instead (whatever the "right" things are)? Yes, there was a cease fire that was conditional on the plan happening. https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf
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Having a functioning (...non-Taliban?) Afghan state done sailed a long time ago. The withdrawal was handled alright - better handling of the refugees would have been real real good.
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PeterCat posted:During the Trump administration the US got the Taliban to agree to stop attacking US forces by agreeing to pull out of Afghanistan in May, 2021. There were no US KIA from March, 2020 till August, 2021. so the Taliban was upholding its end of the deal. Note this does not mean they did not attack Afghan government forces. Donald Trump had 4 years to exit Afghanistan and he didn't. He instead immediately increased troop presence, then ramped up drone strikes across the entire middle east ten fold, then told the Kurds to gently caress off and left them to die. skylined! fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Nov 24, 2021 |
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Crows Turn Off posted:Any reason why the Biden Admintration couldn't have or shouldn't have just ignored Trump's agreement/plan and done the "right" things instead (whatever the "right" things are)? The 'right' thing was "simply form a functioning government in Afghanistan fivehead" so yeah, gently caress that.
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VitalSigns posted:So your problem with Obama was the part where he bothered to say "because I say he's bad that's why" before murdering an American citizen? Yes? Is this a trick question? “We’re going after this base” is substantively different from “We’re sending a drone to kill this US citizen, source:trust me bro he’s bad”. Obama created a system where citizens are put on kill lists and executed. I’ll grant that Trump never sang Amazing Grace or cried after a mass shooting, but I still think that’s important when comparing them, as someone did last page.
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Smeef posted:If he would just wear some Oakley Radars, Biden would be polling way better with jetski enthusiasts and minor league relief pitchers. A “Salt Life” sticker on the back window of Marine One.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Yes? Is this a trick question? “We’re going after this base” is substantively different from “We’re sending a drone to kill this US citizen, source:trust me bro he’s bad”. Trump ran the same drone program as Obama and also had the ability to, and most likely did, send drones to kill US citizen's. The big change he made was that he didn't tell us when he killed US citizens. It's a bipartisan program developed over the last 4 presidents to expand the president's ability to unilaterally control the military. It's Bush/Obama/Trump/Biden's secret kill lists and drone program.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Yes? Is this a trick question? “We’re going after this base” is substantively different from “We’re sending a drone to kill this US citizen, source:trust me bro he’s bad”. Trump just boasted about his ordering hits at rallies instead of press conferences
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Gumball Gumption posted:Trump ran the same drone program as Obama and also had the ability to, and most likely did, send drones to kill US citizen's. Cite the later part of that statement please? Because they actually said they stopped.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Cite the later part of that statement please? Because they actually said they stopped.  Maybe you should re-evaluate your position when you're clinging so desperately to "at least the administration claimed that US citizens wouldn't be specifically targeted". Especially since it makes you sound like you think less of people who aren't US citizens.
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