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Google Butt posted:I don't know either source materials, but as a tv show, WoT is way less infuriating from a writing, directing, editing and acting point of view Depends, first half of Foundation was very different in quality from the second half Just-In-Timeberlake posted:I just finished the first (and only episode I’m watching, gently caress that sucked) of Wheel of Time, and if you liked that Foundation took liberties with the source material, whoo boy, do I have a show for you to watch. I’m glad you said this because I thought WOT was terrible and the WOT thread loves it so I wasn’t sure if I was crazy or not
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WOT is much closer to the base material, for one. It doesn’t even compare to Foundation.
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Nov 23, 2021 06:16
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I honestly thought Foundation was bad from episode 2
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Nov 23, 2021 06:17
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If you think WoT took more liberties than the source material than even the early episodes of Foundation, much less the late episodes of Foundation, you probably downloaded that FXX pilot from 2015 by mistake. Watch the Prime show.
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Just caught up on the last couple episodes. The Cleon stuff is entertaining, but this show sure is trashy. The final scene with Robot Lady reminded me of the Family Guy scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pioBHf11N78&t=43s 4000 Dollar Suit posted:I feel like the nanites would've healed other cleon's slit throat To be honest, at first, I wasn't sure which Dawn he killed. Paradoxish posted:The best part is that all of this followed several beats where she had every opportunity to just drug him or otherwise incapacitate him, but instead she let him wander around her house waiting for the dramatic reveal. He did come earlier than she expected, so she might have needed a minute or two. SpaceAceJase posted:I guess the Cleons weren't wearing their shield bracelets during their slap fight? I did wonder about this. Maybe the Cleon's bracelets cancel each other out? Bip Roberts posted:Show was fine, probably not going to watch anymore, the whole season gave me a Westworld season 3 vibe. Never did watch the third season, I assume it was bad. Small White Dragon fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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Nov 23, 2021 11:05
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Small White Dragon posted:Never did watch the third season, I assume it was bad. I tried to watch it and gave up halfway through
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Nov 23, 2021 11:41
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Powered Descent posted:Perhaps next season will be set entirely within the flower girl's mind -- she's imagining what might happen next (it's not like she has any other pressing items on her schedule at the moment), and hopefully she'll prove to be a better writer than the ones we've gotten so far. I don’t understand why she just sat there after his entire spiel about how her life is going to be a living nightmare for the remainder of her years. Foundation didn’t have humans living extremely long lives or anything but say she had another 50-70 years left, I’d actively try to attack empire or kill myself right then and there.
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Small White Dragon posted:
That’s a good point. Maybe he slit left-handed Dawn’s throat and the imposter tried to pass. Robo nanny figured it out and snapped his neck to protect the dynasty from the imposter taking over. My head tells me that is too clever for this show but I want to believe.
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Nov 23, 2021 13:33
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Killer robot posted:If you think WoT took more liberties than the source material than even the early episodes of Foundation, much less the late episodes of Foundation, you probably downloaded that FXX pilot from 2015 by mistake. Watch the Prime show. Oh, I watched the Prime show, it sucked. Speaking of the FXX pilot vs. the Prime version: why the gently caress would you cut out the prologue from the first book, it literally sets the tone for the series. Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:I don’t understand why she just sat there after his entire spiel about how her life is going to be a living nightmare for the remainder of her years. Foundation didn’t have humans living extremely long lives or anything but say she had another 50-70 years left, I’d actively try to attack empire or kill myself right then and there. I literally thought that when he left her alone, like quick, go slam your head on a rock or try to drown yourself.
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Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:I don’t understand why she just sat there after his entire spiel about how her life is going to be a living nightmare for the remainder of her years. Foundation didn’t have humans living extremely long lives or anything but say she had another 50-70 years left, I’d actively try to attack empire or kill myself right then and there. Yeah I wanted to see her shot by a tranquilizer sniper too 
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Nov 23, 2021 14:48
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Small White Dragon posted:Never did watch the third season, I assume it was bad. Third season of Westworld is great! It’s just not the same show as the first two seasons! It’s basically a whole new show but you’ve already seen all of the characters backstory! Zazz Razzamatazz posted:We really need a new thread title Foundation: ‘yer a Mule, Hari!
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WoT is a pretty funny situation. Everyone tells me it's good. I think it's probably good. I might even love it. But life is too short for me to get invested in a series 14 books long, that by all accounts, drags on needlessly until the end. And the fact that it's polished off by Sanderson puts me off completely. His whole cosmere poo poo is getting more and more annoying, I'm hopping off that train, too.
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Nov 23, 2021 15:53
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ElGroucho posted:WoT is a pretty funny situation. Everyone tells me it's good. I think it's probably good. I might even love it. But life is too short for me to get invested in a series 14 books long, that by all accounts, drags on needlessly until the end. And the fact that it's polished off by Sanderson puts me off completely. His whole cosmere poo poo is getting more and more annoying, I'm hopping off that train, too. I thought Sanderson did a pretty decent job wrapping it up. But I hear you, I got 1/2 way through his latest like 2 months ago and just...stopped. I got roped into Foundation because the first few episodes showed some promise and sometimes a show just need a few episodes to find their footing. WoT turned me off in the first 15 minutes, I'm not watching past the first episode.
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Nov 23, 2021 16:04
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Nov 23, 2021 16:51
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It's almost like when you get rid of the characters, setting and main thematic elements from the source material it's tough for a show to have a good foundation.
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Nov 23, 2021 18:27
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:We really need a new thread title No, Psychohistory is useless in the show and the current title is a testament to that.
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Nov 23, 2021 18:50
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Space dad tyrant reality TV show
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Foundation: No respect for the peace itt
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Nov 23, 2021 20:30
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maybe they can rebrand this as a futuristic sequel to game of thrones and then let someone make an actual Foundation tv series
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:No, Psychohistory is useless in the show and the current title is a testament to that. True
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I was on board with the Cleon arc, and then they just completely hosed the dog with that idiotic twist ending. Everybody's been contaminated from the beginning and nobody has a genetic backup? And this series of contrivances is what brings down the invulnerable genetic dynasty? It's trash, and it retroactively killed the entire cleon arc. The rest of the show was already irredeemable before they made it clear that nobody even understands what psychohistory is or is supposed to be able to do. I don't think anybody involved with this production actually read the books, or have read very many books at all for that matter. You can't make an adaption when nobody involved is capable of comprehending the source material. Show bad. It's a shame too, cuz the visual aesthetic can be really compelling - there's just nothing under the hood.
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Wasn’t the imposter Dawn a perfect genetic copy of the original Cleon? Here’s you pile of magic goo right there for backups.
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Yeah, they should compare against him and stick his corpse in the preservation case.
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iv46vi posted:Wasn’t the imposter Dawn a perfect genetic copy of the original Cleon? Here’s you pile of magic goo right there for backups. They should check Flower Girl for pure Cleon DNA
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Do you think they ever gently caress with the people in the sensory prison? Like apply old people make up to them and be all "You've been in prison for 50 years!" And then show them a mirror and the person freaks out about all the years they've lost. And then they are all "JK lol, it's been like two weeks" and then put the shroud back on.
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ElGroucho posted:WoT is a pretty funny situation. Everyone tells me it's good. I think it's probably good. I might even love it. But life is too short for me to get invested in a series 14 books long, that by all accounts, drags on needlessly until the end. And the fact that it's polished off by Sanderson puts me off completely. His whole cosmere poo poo is getting more and more annoying, I'm hopping off that train, too. I mean you know why they call him the drag on
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Cojawfee posted:Do you think they ever gently caress with the people in the sensory prison? Like apply old people make up to them and be all "You've been in prison for 50 years!" And then show them a mirror and the person freaks out about all the years they've lost. And then they are all "JK lol, it's been like two weeks" and then put the shroud back on. I'm pretty sure that's mandatory
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Hari emerges from the vault, and gestures towards the gathered Goons from the Foundation thread. "Congratulations on surviving the first crisis. I'm happy to say, we foresaw great things for this show and we were proven right!" Confused Goons look at each other. "In fact, we received numerous awards for a coherent plot, believable characters and truly innovative world building" - he continues. "Something's wrong. He's talking about another future!" - cries a Goon - "We're hosed hosed!". The rooms erupts into chaos. "I'm happy to tell you we will now embark on a continuation of out adventures - films, an MMO and a new series of Foundation books..." Room erupts into chaos, people jump out the windows, etc.
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Mokotow posted:Hari emerges from the vault, and gestures towards the gathered Goons from the Foundation thread. Quick, get Tim Cook in here! We need another keynote to soothe our troubled hearts!
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I'm reimagining that post into a modern take on it's story Hari emerges from the vault, and gestures towards the gathered Goons from the Foundation thread. "Wow poo poo seems hosed" Confused Goons look at each other. "What? Do you not have any input on this situation? Didn't you predict everything with math?" - they ask. AI Hari shrugs "I thought it was going to be good." Everyone stares at eachother for several minutes before Hari turns around and walks back into the vault Give me $50,000,000
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Hari smiles beatifically. "Look inside yourself, the answers were within you all along" *vanishes*
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Did the show ever explain why the Empire never rebuilt the star bridge after Space 9/11? I know they took a Brother Dusk up to see the ruins before they destroyed it and dusted him, but I kept wondering why they couldn’t just build a new one and repair the scar.
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Crini posted:Did the show ever explain why the Empire never rebuilt the star bridge after Space 9/11? They didn't know how.
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Nitrousoxide posted:They didn't know how. Was that every explicitly stated? Id have liked some more concrete examples of the empire having decayed already and forgetting how things work. Would probably have helped me accept the Cleon stuff at the end.
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Crini posted:Did the show ever explain why the Empire never rebuilt the star bridge after Space 9/11? Here's another question: Why don't they have more than one?
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Crini posted:Did the show ever explain why the Empire never rebuilt the star bridge after Space 9/11? Brother Day proposed a 6 Trillion galactic credits Build Bridge Better plan, but due to "negotiations" in the galactic council the funds were redirected to tax cuts for Trantor elite and an increase in the military budget.
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ElGroucho posted:Here's another question: Why don't they have more than one? Here's another another question: Why would a civilization that has mastered controlling gravity even have a space elevator in the first place? Even Waterworld and Terminus had ships just landing and taking off from the planet like it's no big deal.
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:Here's another another question: Why would a civilization that has mastered controlling gravity even have a space elevator in the first place? Even Waterworld and Terminus had ships just landing and taking off from the planet like it's no big deal. They were showing off, the space bridge was pointless opulence just like the rest of Trantor
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