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I've been painfully aware of disco's "flaws" (to be too kind) since the beginning, but I never actively hated an episode until now. Tripe. Shallow, tedious, predictable, utter tripe. That they are terrible at this is not news, but I'm legit astounded that they've managed to get so much worse. E: And to make matters worse, no new episode of Prodigy to rinse this out of my brain. Hipster_Doofus fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Nov 26, 2021 |
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Hakkesshu posted:The fact that they still insist on Michael being the captain over Saru still just fundamentally sucks poo poo. Saru is only there to go 'you do what you got to do Michael' which she does anyway in every loving episode. Its just to draw out the episode. If Saru ever objects to anything Michael does I will be surprised. It would be a good episode or two if Michael earned her way to being captain instead of just 'I have a better ship'. Like some of the other captains in the 32th century objecting to how suddenly someone from 900 years ago is allowed to run the most important ship in the fleet, even after all the trials and strife they had to endure to keep Starfleet going. Like Nog and the Voyager J are off fighting the Orions, losing crew and poo poo with every skirmish, limping home needing major repairs every time, and then this ship turns up that can instantly teleport anywhere in the universe. And is given the sole job of saving the universe every time. That poo poo causes mutinies. But they can't be split up because they are all best buddies!
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happyhippy posted:this ship turns up that can instantly teleport anywhere in the universe. And is given the sole job of saving the universe every time. That poo poo causes mutinies. The mutinies subside when everyone realizes that the new ship is really bad at its sole job
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The Spore Drive goes to anywhere in the multiverse so every jump is a risk that you will get Event Horizoned by your definitely emotionally stable chief engineer.
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Their main job for the last X months has been milk run courier jobs. Startrek: FedEx.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Their main job for the last X months has been milk run courier jobs. Startrek: FedEx. there's a starfleet delta hidden in the logo!
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DaveKap posted:Braces are a thing with today's technology yet Adira's mouth looks the way it does. Let's just say it: Discovery has traditionally ugly people in it. Oh cool, so now not only is the thread full of the same toxic “they CRY too much!” complaints that have been around since the beginning, but we’ve also got disgusting “these actors aren’t hot enough for my goon sensibilities” takes. gently caress off with this poo poo.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Their main job for the last X months has been milk run courier jobs. Startrek: FedEx. ngl I would totally watch that just an entire season of Michael & the Discos doing fetch quests and item-trading chains to entice new worlds into Federation 2: Dilithium Boogaloo
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I thought episode 2 was okay, the "5 light years wide" and the crew reaction shots at a bunch of dots on a screen thing was silly but overall I thought this was the kind of lower-key plot the show needs once in a while, even if it gets a little mawkish Everyone in the crew has been dealing with some kind of major trauma or resentment or longing for what they've lost for the past year and a half or so, I don't think anyone's reactions or behavior was unnatural or out of nowhere The Chairman fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Nov 26, 2021 |
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The Chairman posted:I thought episode 2 was okay, the "5 light years wide" and the crew reaction shots at a bunch of dots on a screen thing was silly but overall I thought this was the kind of lower-key plot the show needs once in a while, even if it gets a little mawkish yeah me too. So far this season has been fine and I think a step in the right direction
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Yo what is this bullshit, no new Prodigy episodes until the new year?! Who is to blame for this scheduling
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Aces High posted:Yo what is this bullshit, no new Prodigy episodes until the new year?! Who is to blame for this scheduling nickelodeon has always been dickish with schedule for shows that aren't SpongeBob. see: Avatar, Korra etc
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The Chairman posted:I thought episode 2 was okay, the "5 light years wide" and the crew reaction shots at a bunch of dots on a screen thing was silly but overall I thought this was the kind of lower-key plot the show needs once in a while, even if it gets a little mawkish See, my general complaint with Disco is that I want lower key plot episodes; I found this episode particularly execrable because it was pedal to the metal on This Season's Big Huge Galaxy Threatening McGuffin, with some typical "stop and have an emotional moment during something time sensitive" asides along the way. I would enjoy the show so much more if the writers/producers/executives let them have fun, low stakes adventures with marginally slower pacing, and stop asking "Where's Michael" anytime Michael is not on-screen. But no, they want this to be the flagship show of their streaming platform, and they want it to force it to be Prestige Television while simultaneously feeling like Star Trek, causing it to fail at both.
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The Chairman posted:I thought episode 2 was okay, the "5 light years wide" and the crew reaction shots at a bunch of dots on a screen thing was silly but overall I thought this was the kind of lower-key plot the show needs once in a while, even if it gets a little mawkish The dots on the screen thing was pretty weird. I thought that they’d cut away to an exterior shot of the anomaly with the ship against it for scale, but they saved that shot all the way to the end.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Oh cool, so now not only is the thread full of the same toxic “they CRY too much!” complaints that have been around since the beginning, but we’ve also got disgusting “these actors aren’t hot enough for my goon sensibilities” takes. lol
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Oh cool, so now not only is the thread full of the same toxic “they CRY too much!” complaints that have been around since the beginning, but we’ve also got disgusting “these actors aren’t hot enough for my goon sensibilities” takes. youre telling me the amount of crying on disco is normal and reasonable? edit: there has to be more crying in one season of Disco than DS9 and TNG had in their combined runs punishedkissinger fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Nov 26, 2021 |
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punishedkissinger posted:youre telling me the amount of crying on disco is normal and reasonable? I agree, Troi could have been a better councilor
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punishedkissinger posted:youre telling me the amount of crying on disco is normal and reasonable? Nobody cried in old trek, except Picard that one time in the vineyard! Therefore, nobody should cry in trek.
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Give me floods of loving tears in my spaceship show. Everyone should be emoting maximally at all times. Just pouring forth their feelings directly into the streaming applications
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I Am Fowl posted:Nobody cried in old trek, except Picard that one time in the vineyard! Therefore, nobody should cry in trek. Sarek/Picard cried hard. So did that one lady when Troi counseled her before losing empathic abilities.
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3 takeaways from this episode the anomaly should have been MUCH smaller in scale. I liked all the booker stuff this episode, especially as a counterpoint to Michael's whole deal, but you get the same effect if it just plucks the tree along with his family. it's wild to me that they decided "captain first officer saru" was a good idea but then they did ensign first officer last season so it's clear they don't care. just have him come back as a civilian attaché from the kelpians, like t'pol was. like Michael has been captain for 5 months! she's got a first officer already and you just came in and demoted them! the gender stuff sucks so much lmao. last season it was misgendering adira for several episodes before making their coming out into a big event that seems difficult, which is like "cool so in another 1100 years my pronouns are still going to be an exception and an imposition" , and this week it's "medically transitioning is still enough of a process that gray was worried about also asking for an incredibly simple cosmetic surgery"? like both of these things could have been portrayed as just normal to the world very easily! and I can't really be mad because they're trying, but this would be like if kirk looked at the camera before kissing uhura to point out that normally he'd never do a thing like this. overall though, I like this season better than 1 and 2 so far, and I'm glad i got to learn that dude like windsurfing even if I wish I learned it in the mess hall or if he had been allowed to be a character before this episode. 6.5/10 edit: oh there's one more thing HOW DOES THIS SHIP NOT HAVE A COUNCILLOR YET?!? the second they put into starfleet hq an army of councillors should have been assigned to the ship it's actually deeply negligent that starfleet is allowing the medical doctor who recently spent a year being tortured in the nightmare mushroom zone do that work. egg tats fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Nov 26, 2021 |
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Have they forgotten about the secret ship AI?
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Alchenar posted:Have they forgotten about the secret ship AI? They literally namedropped her in this very episode
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being transgender is like having an alien worm that lives inside you, and when you die your memories are kept in the worm, and the worm goes and lives inside your partner, and then your partner has hallucinations of your memories made manifest as a separate consciousness, and then they go to a planet where your consciousness is downloaded into a hologram, and then the hologram is downloaded into an android, and that's what transitioning is like.
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Typical Pubbie posted:being transgender is like having an alien worm that lives inside you, and when you die your memories are kept in the worm, and the worm goes and lives inside your partner, and then your partner has hallucinations of your memories made manifest as a separate consciousness, and then they go to a planet where your consciousness is downloaded into a hologram, and then the hologram is downloaded into an android, and that's what transitioning is like.
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happyhippy posted:Its just to draw out the episode. Also I'd like to apologize for calling a couple of actors "traditionally ugly" on this show. I know I should be better than that but I thought using the word "traditionally" would emphasize that this is an old way of thinking, not necessarily mine. But I still do have to admit the reflective bit on Sonequa's front tooth was distracting me every time it was on screen in season one. My eyes would always go right for it. I have no loving clue why. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Nov 26, 2021 |
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I wish i knew what it’s like in the writers room of this show. Must be absolutely fascinating experience
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The amount of crying in Disco is excessive but also talking about the acne or crooked teeth of an actor on the show is stupid, tyvm for listening
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skasion posted:I wish i knew what it’s like in the writers room of this show. Must be absolutely fascinating experience This is the same writers room, by the way, that fired (I think at the time) the only black writer because he wouldn’t stop saying the n-word over and over again and it made all the white people in the room uncomfortable.
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egg tats posted:edit: oh there's one more thing HOW DOES THIS SHIP NOT HAVE A COUNCILLOR YET?!? the second they put into starfleet hq an army of councillors should have been assigned to the ship it's actually deeply negligent that starfleet is allowing the medical doctor who recently spent a year being tortured in the nightmare mushroom zone do that work. Though come to think of it, not being a watcher of Voyager, did Voyager have a councilor? I know DS9 didn't but that wasn't technically a Starfleet vessel so it doesn't count. nine-gear crow posted:This is the same writers room, by the way, that fired (I think at the time) the only black writer because he wouldn’t stop saying the n-word over and over again and it made all the white people in the room uncomfortable. 
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Snow Cone Capone posted:The amount of crying in Disco is excessive but also talking about the acne or crooked teeth of an actor on the show is stupid, tyvm for listening this is fair
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DS9 got a counselor. Ezri was the counselor
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nine-gear crow posted:This is the same writers room, by the way, that fired (I think at the time) the only black writer because he wouldn’t stop saying the n-word over and over again and it made all the white people in the room uncomfortable. I mean that doesn't sound bad? "The only black writer" is absolutely poo poo and not surprising from the show but saying the n-word all the time is pretty weird
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DaveKap posted:I'd actually chalk this up to the time jump. They didn't have ship councilors in the TOS era that Disco comes from and the Federation may have perfected therapy tech before the burn so bringing the Federation and Starfleet back from the dead meant everyone forgot 1: They used to have Councilors and 2: Any therapy tech they used to have. if I recall correctly they make a point of saying that they didn't have a councillor YET since they weren't on a long term mission, or that the councillor died when like half the crew did
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egg tats posted:the gender stuff sucks so much lmao. last season it was misgendering adira for several episodes before making their coming out into a big event that seems difficult, which is like "cool so in another 1100 years my pronouns are still going to be an exception and an imposition" , and this week it's "medically transitioning is still enough of a process that gray was worried about also asking for an incredibly simple cosmetic surgery"? When I watched Adira’s awkward pronoun correction scene, it felt less like they were worried about coming out and more like they were too shy to correct people. Adira seems like the kind of extremely nervous person who wouldn’t correct people if they were being called by the wrong nickname. In a world where pronouns are just another linguistic classifier fed into the universal translator, I can imagine it being no big deal at all for most people to correct others when they get it wrong. Stamets’s reaction was very much a “oh, thanks for telling me, sorry about that”, and after that the crew seamlessly switched to using the correct pronouns. This, of course, does not map onto the modern-day enby/trans experience, where being misgendered is common, hurtful even when unintentional, sometimes deliberately done out of malice, and feels like an imposition to correct. I don’t think the scene holds up because of this, since someone watching the scene today will have their interpretation of it rightfully colored by their own experience. Misgendering a character for a few episodes does not feel like that character being too shy to speak up, it’s a direct analogue of a problem that exists today. If the writers were going for “in the future it’s no big deal to tell people your pronouns,” it should have happened within five minutes of Adira showing up. (I’d say “don’t misgender them even once,” but a good chunk of the audience needed to be explicitly told.) I can only hope that in the future that this will come across better to someone watching this scene without the cultural baggage of being enby in 2021. (I completely missed that Gray’s reluctance to ask if he could remove a mole could have been an allegory for being reluctant to ask if his new body could be biologically male, though. Yikes if that’s what the writers were going for.)
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Snow Cone Capone posted:The amount of crying in Disco is excessive but also talking about the acne or crooked teeth of an actor on the show is stupid, tyvm for listening The acne thing isn’t stupid to mention when instead of accepting it (Star Trek) they weirdly blurred or something in post. Nobody is attacking the actor for having acne.
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Taear posted:I mean that doesn't sound bad? He wasn't fired, and he didn't say the n-word "all the time." He said it while telling the other writers a story about a racist cop he encountered in LA. Someone in the writer's room who can't understand context poo poo a brick and told HR. They gave him a warning and he decided to quit rather than work with the idiots on this show.
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Lol never mind
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why make the show online only if you're not going to have a scene where culber like, anxiously asks around the question of bottom surgery and grey just responds "oh no I don't want a penis but if you could make me a bit taller that'd be space-poggers"
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