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Meltwater: A Game of Tactical Starvation is now officially out of print with Hollandspiele, and awaiting a future new edition from an as yet undisclosed publisher. I'm not allowed to talk hard numbers, but we passed over a thousand total units across the game's lifetime. The game probably would have gone nowhere without y'all's support. Thanks, boardgoons.
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gutterdaughter posted:Meltwater: A Game of Tactical Starvation is now officially out of print with Hollandspiele, and awaiting a future new edition from an as yet undisclosed publisher. I'm not allowed to talk hard numbers, but we passed over a thousand total units across the game's lifetime. Congrats! I'm stoked for ya! I had my wife pick up a copy from Hollandspiele during the sale since I've had my eye on it for a bit (due to this thread and that "unique games" geeklist on BGG) so I'm stoked to get to finally play it.
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Nov 29, 2021 07:42
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PRADA SLUT posted:Does anyone know the "status" of Sleeping Gods? I ordered it almost ten months ago and haven't seen anything. Is it out of production? Backlogged? Waiting for a 2.0 fix? Anything? There's a new printing of it that just shipped, my FLGS got hold of it.
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Nov 29, 2021 07:46
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gutterdaughter posted:Meltwater: A Game of Tactical Starvation is now officially out of print with Hollandspiele, and awaiting a future new edition from an as yet undisclosed publisher. I'm not allowed to talk hard numbers, but we passed over a thousand total units across the game's lifetime. I remember being immediately impressed with what I saw when you first shared about it, and printed off the print and play & did some early playtesting. I'm glad it's worked out for you, you deserve it!
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Nov 29, 2021 09:12
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Screw Meltwater, where's your game about making boys kiss? Seriously though, congratulations.
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Nov 29, 2021 09:43
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El Fideo posted:game about making boys kiss? https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/315059/dream-crush
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Nov 29, 2021 09:51
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Admiralty Flag posted:Just played Viticulture for the first time yesterday. I had lots of fun with it. Thinking about getting it for home, but wondering about how much fun it is with two players. (I can see it'll be good fun with three for when my daughter comes to visit and it'll be good to pull out when guests come over to play.) Worried that with two it might be an exercise in frustration in fighting over the single worker placement spot and switching off useful turns. Thoughts? Something to think about is the randomness of the decks in Viticulture. So the frustration won't come from fighting over worker spots but rather the fact one person got an amazing visitor or whatever and the other person didn't. If you're happy with that aspect of it the it's fine.
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Nov 29, 2021 11:11
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El Fideo posted:Screw Meltwater, where's your game about making boys kiss? ....tell me more. Seriously though something I quite like is when there's a game with very complex mechanics, layered systems, and all sorts of depth, all in the name of something completely superfluous (for example, making boys kiss.) No idea why, just tickles me.
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Nov 29, 2021 16:27
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gutterdaughter posted:Meltwater: A Game of Tactical Starvation is now officially out of print with Hollandspiele, and awaiting a future new edition from an as yet undisclosed publisher. I'm not allowed to talk hard numbers, but we passed over a thousand total units across the game's lifetime. You got a pretty glowing review from SWAG podcast too, I have to think that drove a few purchases. 1000 units of a game from a smaller publisher is really good isn't it? Especially when you're 2p only and have a super-depressing theme on top of it.
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Nov 29, 2021 17:10
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Edit- this came to the wrong th thread somehow oops
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Nov 29, 2021 17:22
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Mayveena posted:Back to your Spirit Island discussion, a game I could never get into although I tried a number of times I'm definitely in the same boat. Have played it a half dozen times and had fun each time but the Light of God must have passed over me because I found it... fine and with no desire to acquire it or request it. Just not for me. Aramoro posted:Something to think about is the randomness of the decks in Viticulture. So the frustration won't come from fighting over worker spots but rather the fact one person got an amazing visitor or whatever and the other person didn't. If you're happy with that aspect of it the it's fine. Some of the visitors are just straight up amazing and some orders are very easy to fulfill. I think Tuscany "fixes" some of these issues, partially by making them visitors more difficult to get. That said, it might even exacerbate the issue by just reducing the quantity of them so that when/if someone gets an amazing one it stands out more. I got to play Dune Imperium this weekend and really enjoyed it. I love deckbuilders with a board state and this is (mostly) that. We did a four player learning game that plodded on and after some initial hurdles were cruising. Lots of tough choices. Looking forward to getting many more plays out of it and also sleeving the cards. FulsomFrank fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Nov 29, 2021 |
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Nov 29, 2021 17:32
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Aramoro posted:Something to think about is the randomness of the decks in Viticulture. So the frustration won't come from fighting over worker spots but rather the fact one person got an amazing visitor or whatever and the other person didn't. If you're happy with that aspect of it the it's fine. I always bring this up, but I don't like the visitors and made a point of avoiding them in Viticulture. It's absolutely possible to do much better than one might otherwise think. Partly to prove a point to myself, I eschewed visitors entirely while participating in a game with the resident boardgames Rain Man (who leans HARD into visitors and combo-maxing.) I still lost! BUT only by a slim tiebreaker margin. Nobody one else at the table was even close to me and the rain main in points when endgame was triggered, so I still "counted" it as validation that the game doesn't hinge on visitors even though I actually didn't win 
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Nov 29, 2021 18:31
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FulsomFrank posted:Some of the visitors are just straight up amazing and some orders are very easy to fulfill. I think Tuscany "fixes" some of these issues, partially by making them visitors more difficult to get. That said, it might even exacerbate the issue by just reducing the quantity of them so that when/if someone gets an amazing one it stands out more. It reminds me of DXV’s insight into chapel when first designing Dominion - “This card is way too good to restrict access to it. I better make it a 2 cost so that anyone can buy it first turn.”
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Nov 29, 2021 23:39
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I really enjoyed that designer diary or whatever it was, it really shone a light into how well thought out dominion was.
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Nov 29, 2021 23:50
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silvergoose posted:I really enjoyed that designer diary or whatever it was, it really shone a light into how well thought out dominion was. Village is a card he intentionally designed to separate good players from bad. Almost every player I've played with LOVES Village analogues.
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Nov 30, 2021 01:08
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Village, Village, Village, buy a Village, your go.
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Nov 30, 2021 01:12
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Drawing cards is fun
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Nov 30, 2021 01:14
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nordichammer posted:Drawing cards is fun Smithy draws three cards
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Nov 30, 2021 01:41
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Smithy nets +2 cards.
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Nov 30, 2021 02:05
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Learning how to play with my older son. I'm the one who's not winning  
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Nov 30, 2021 02:07
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Some Numbers posted:Village is a card he intentionally designed to separate good players from bad. I only use them sometimes if there's no good other options to draw cards and I keep drawing loving garbage
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Nov 30, 2021 02:08
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Harold Fjord posted:Smithy nets +2 cards. But no actions to use them.
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Nov 30, 2021 02:20
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I only use them sometimes if there's no good other options to draw cards and I keep drawing loving garbage Villages make no difference to whether or not you're drawing garbage because your deck would be the same net size without the Village. They are themselves garbage unless you have enough terminals to require all the extra actions, and even that edge case generally means you've bought too many terminals.
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Nov 30, 2021 02:24
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Festival, now that's the real poo poo.
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Nov 30, 2021 02:25
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nordichammer posted:Drawing cards is fun Yeah, card+action cards are great! Sentry's probably my favourite though. One thing I also like is the Sauna+Avanto promo card combo. Nothing better than getting most of those in your deck, and just drawing everything each turn  (although of course, that seems to only be possible once, then everyone clues into how potent it can be and starts buying-up)
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Nov 30, 2021 02:28
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I can never stop myself from building terrible Gardens decks if the card looks remotely viable.
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Nov 30, 2021 02:56
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Major Isoor posted:Yeah, card+action cards are great! Sentry's probably my favourite though. One thing I also like is the Sauna+Avanto promo card combo. Nothing better than getting most of those in your deck, and just drawing everything each turn A lot of online players ban Sauna because the entire early game becomes BUY SAUNAS and then whoever gets 5 a couple of times early to nab the fast Avantos just wins so it's basically a coinflip.
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Nov 30, 2021 03:14
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nrook posted:I can never stop myself from building terrible Gardens decks if the card looks remotely viable. haha yeah, the temptation is always real! I find that I have a lot of success with Duke decks. Just buy enough Dukes to put others off investing heavily into it too, then go all-out with duchies. I think some of my top scores were with Duke decks.Man, this convo is making me depressed that I haven't played Dominion since Jan 2020  Such a good game! By the way, are any of the more recent expansions worthwhile? I bought all the easily interchangable ones (i.e. all the ones that don't use the newer mat-/tile-based features like in Adventures etc.) for easier mix-and-match play, but haven't even glanced at any of the more recent releases. I think I vaguely recall a supernatural-/night-themed one coming out a while ago, but that's about it.EDIT: Toshimo posted:A lot of online players ban Sauna because the entire early game becomes BUY SAUNAS and then whoever gets 5 a couple of times early to nab the fast Avantos just wins so it's basically a coinflip. Hah! Yeah I don't blame them. They're fine with my group since it evens out pretty smoothly, but yeah I can definitely imagine that with some players/groups people just rush them ASAP
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Nov 30, 2021 03:15
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Infinitum posted:Fun fact I ordered The Red Cathedral at Christmas last year off the basis of the preview from the 2020 Aw Shux. Cancelled order after they moved the goal posts yet again. Fuuuuuck knows what happened to the shipment. Refunded money gonna go towards my TG Secret Santa gift methinks.
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Nov 30, 2021 03:18
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Ordered Zendo as a Christmas gift for myself 
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Nov 30, 2021 03:24
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nrook posted:I can never stop myself from building terrible Gardens decks if the card looks remotely viable. This is my response to a kingdom with Conspirator and literally any other nonterminal action.
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Major Isoor posted:I bought all the easily interchangable ones (i.e. all the ones that don't use the newer mat-/tile-based features like in Adventures etc.) for easier mix-and-match play, but haven't even glanced at any of the more recent releases. I think I vaguely recall a supernatural-/night-themed one coming out a while ago, but that's about it. I don't get what you mean about the interchangeable ones, but the most recent expansion is one of the best ever. It's called Renaissance, fittingly, since the spooky one you remember wasn't universally beloved. Ren has a lot of really smartly designed cards showing how there's still space for new cards about trashing. I haven't played it in person, but it may be a bit overcomplicated in places. There are a lot of cards that play themselves at odd times, and there's a way to play Action cards for a different effect. I can imagine getting lost in what you're doing, and it doesn't even have to be your turn. Nocturne is ok, but some of the gimmicks can rile up the grumpy. It also has a touch of overcomplication, but with less interesting gameplay effects.
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Nov 30, 2021 06:31
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Mr. Squishy posted:I don't get what you mean about the interchangeable ones, but the most recent expansion is one of the best ever. It's called Renaissance, fittingly, since the spooky one you remember wasn't universally beloved. Oh, I just mean like, all the earlier expansions (Seaside, Intrigue, Hinterlands, Prosperity, etc.) which only introduce new cards with minimal exceptions to how they work (like duration cards), to minimize rule-learning. (I mean, it's not an issue for a lot of BGers, but it was a gripe for people I was playing with at the time) So as a result, basically everything was interchangeable, since they all had pretty standard effects. So like, I avoided getting Alchemy due to the potion mechanics (whenever I played a friend's copy, the alchemy stuff never ended up doing much, so eh), also avoided Dark Ages due to the ruins etc. (and also I don't think it was rated very highly in general? I could be misremembering though) as well as Adventures+Empires, due to all the big 'event' cards/mats changing things up too much. That does sound good though, regarding Renaissance. Maybe if I can rope people into Dominion again, I might need to look for it at a FLGS
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gutterdaughter posted:Meltwater: A Game of Tactical Starvation is now officially out of print with Hollandspiele, and awaiting a future new edition from an as yet undisclosed publisher. Cthulhu retheme with FFG? Differrent sects of cultists fighting as R’yleh sinks No no Woodland creatures retheme with Leder, mice and rabbits with fox soldiers as the forest burns No I got it, Mage Knight universe witb CGE, peasants and city defenders as the countryside is pillaged by Tovak and friends (Congrats!) Fellis fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Nov 30, 2021 |
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Nov 30, 2021 13:04
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The events in adventures and empire are awesome, as are "way" cards from menagerie. I used to hate alchemy but playing online a lot I've learned to appreciate the potion economy The only really bad mechanic is hexes. Nocturne introduced two 12 card piles facedown piles; you draw boons from one and hexes from the other as triggered by various cards. Boons are little positive effects like "you may discard three cards to gain a gold" or "trash a card from your hand." Hexes though, are attacks. There's the usual stuff like gaining a curse to your hand or top decking a card if you have four or discarding down to three. Then there's loving Misery. Misery gives you a -2 VP and if you get hit a second time it's a -4 VP. It caps out there, I've never reached the point of getting hit by a third misery and it fizzling. In a normal game if they hit you with misery twice and you hit them with other stuff you lose. Game was already random enough imo. Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Nov 30, 2021 |
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Nov 30, 2021 14:29
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Toshimo posted:A lot of online players ban Sauna because the entire early game becomes BUY SAUNAS and then whoever gets 5 a couple of times early to nab the fast Avantos just wins so it's basically a coinflip. I play two player with a friend a lot, and if you only have one person going sauna/avanto it's too slow. You're spending a lot of time buying a mediocre trashing card until you hit avantos. Of course the math definitely changes if there are attacks that slow the game down, workshop effects, etc., but in a vacuum it can be a trap.
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Nov 30, 2021 15:30
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This could be something susceptible to a local meta, especially with >2 players. If Sauna/Avanto is the recognized "best" strategy, and your two opponents are going for it, it'll be fast enough that you really do need to play the same game. If it's recognized as "too slow", then if you try it (and you're the only trying it), it will in fact be too slow.
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Nov 30, 2021 15:44
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I disagree with the notion that it's too slow to solo.
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Nov 30, 2021 15:59
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The landscape cards are one of the best expansion content in Dominion. Landmarks mostly give a nice jiggle to scoring and can easily cause you to reconsider your priorities. Events are just cool, and let you do cool things. Projects are also cool. Ways are neat but they're a lot harder to grasp. The other three are pretty simple. A lot of the high-ranked players on Dominion dot games don't think Saunavanto is too strong. Frequently they don't really bother with it. If there's any other sort of trashing, or any other Village effect, Saunas dont offer much. After your opponent has spent 5 buys and $20 revealing them, you can poach some Avantos if the board is lacking a good source of draw.
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Yeah, landscapes are the best addition to Dominion. Which is why I think Empires and Renaissance are the best expansions to have.
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