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ShoeFly
Dec 28, 2006

Waiter, there's a fly in my shoe!

My LGA is pretty straightforward - Greens, Labor, Libs & Arts plus some independents that were easy to ignore. We'll end up with a Labor mayor & Greens deputy mayor most likely.

My ward last time elected 1 Lib, 1 Lab & 1 Green and I'm expecting the same this time.

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Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺

Capt.Whorebags posted:


Despite being told time and time again that fluoridation is not a local government decision, it just won't go away.

Lmao if Qld is the exception to this because it absolutely is a LGA thing here

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
The exit of Fran Kelly was accompanied by some reminicences, other debris and near forgotten horrors. The commentary (meant to be high praise) about her moulding the political discourse was unintentially hilarious. And thanks for the reminder that Christopher Pyne exists. Much painful commentary about Christian Porter being 'hounded out of office'.

As to LGA elections. Always check the online declarations. There is often comedy gold. Most of our local independant councillors are members of the National Party and have their campaigns funded. The Mayor (A National who is also a gaping anus ~not in this case a synonym~) has decried the Greens candidate as 'politicising what has always been an apolitical local council'. Our ticket has a Group A and B who upon researching turn out to both be far right happy clappers hoping to get votes because voting for them is the least effort (everyone else is ungrouped). So, yes, do your research.

Johnstone, a 43-year-old Wiradjuri man, was handcuffed and shackled when he elbowed a corrective services officer and ran off outside Lismore Base hospital in northern NSW on 15 March 2019. He died from the single bullet wound to his back, despite receiving medical care. The coroner, Teresa O’Sullivan, suspended the inquest after referring a known person to the NSW director of public prosecutions. NSW law prevents publication of submissions made at the inquest about whether to refer the person, and any comment made by the coroner about such a referral. Johnstone had been taken into custody earlier in the day after being denied bail on assault charges. A corrective services officer appeared in court in March on manslaughter charges and was granted bail to reappear in May.

ISSUES RAISED
Injured in custody, force used, mental health / cognitive impairment.

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010

Last time I did my research, all the independents were member of the liberal party or property deveopers. So now I just vote Labor (in local, because we have no greens).

Intoluene
Jul 6, 2011

Activating self-destruct sequence!
Fun Shoe
My local election got cancelled because the entire council is under administration.

ShoeFly
Dec 28, 2006

Waiter, there's a fly in my shoe!

Intoluene posted:

My local election got cancelled because the entire council is under administration.

lol

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
I'm currently living in an absolute poo poo hole because the property developer slash candidate I had lined up accomodation with never returned my calls emails or texts. She's also lnp

ShoeFly
Dec 28, 2006

Waiter, there's a fly in my shoe!

Zenithe posted:

I'm currently living in an absolute poo poo hole because the property developer slash candidate I had lined up accomodation with never returned my calls emails or texts. She's also lnp

also lol

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



joyce had them fix his drunken ramblings in the hansard again lol

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

Capt.Whorebags posted:

My LGA has the usual bunch of anti-fluoridation wackjobs and that strongly aligns with "vaccination sceptics" so at least do some basic research if that's something you're not comfortable with.

Despite being told time and time again that fluoridation is not a local government decision, it just won't go away.

Yeah I've had people running for LGA who want to abolish the monarchy...

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Animal Friend posted:

Yeah I've had people running for LGA who want to abolish the monarchy...

So you voted for them, yeah

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Having not kept up with things, what's the difference between NSW and VIC restrictions right now? They both seem to have a similar vaccination rate, so why did the NSW daily case numbers drop so much more than VIC?

Senor Tron fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Dec 2, 2021

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
Nationals federal Vice President is a pedo

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer

Senor Tron posted:

Having not kept up with things, what's the difference between NSW and VIC restrictions right now? They both seem to have a similar vaccination rate, so why did the NSW daily case numbers so much more than VIC?

It's weird, I feel like it must be something other than restrictions cos I think they're pretty similar.
Like it's to do with demographics or geography or something institutional or something

woofbro
Nov 25, 2013

Cartoon posted:

As to LGA elections. Always check the online declarations. There is often comedy gold. Most of our local independant councillors are members of the National Party and have their campaigns funded. The Mayor (A National who is also a gaping anus ~not in this case a synonym~) has decried the Greens candidate as 'politicising what has always been an apolitical local council'. Our ticket has a Group A and B who upon researching turn out to both be far right happy clappers hoping to get votes because voting for them is the least effort (everyone else is ungrouped). So, yes, do your research.

How do you access these?

ATM I'm basing my vote on the phrasing of independents with "under a Liberal majority" and "under a Labor majority" and the positives and negatives on each statement.

sick of Applebees
Nov 7, 2008

Amoeba102 posted:

The government is planning on banning itself.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-02/magnitsky-laws-sanction-hackers-rights-abusers-parliament/100667898
Cyber hackers, human rights abusers and corrupt officials will be banned from visiting Australia or investing their ill-gotten gains here, under historic legislation set to sail through the lower house of federal parliament today.

What are they going to do about the current/past Liberal/Labor members of parliament then?

edit: oh my god I didn't realise you'd already made that joke. I'll keep this as a mark of shame

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
Muyb this is formal request to ask you to return to discord

go_banana
Oct 13, 2010
Have a mate running for Council, 2nd on the labor ticket. Should get in.

In more depressing news how hosed is the housing market. Nobody seems to care or will do anything about it.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
"Alan Tudge leaves cabinet after former adviser alleges their affair was abusive"

hm, shocking

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

go_banana posted:

In more depressing news how hosed is the housing market. Nobody seems to care or will do anything about it.

https://greens.org.au/policies/housing-and-homelessness

quote:

7. To phase out negative gearing and abolish property-related capital gains tax discounts and exemptions.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

woofbro posted:

How do you access these?

ATM I'm basing my vote on the phrasing of independents with "under a Liberal majority" and "under a Labor majority" and the positives and negatives on each statement.

https://www.elections.nsw.gov.au/Elections/Local-government-elections/Local-Government-Elections-2021/Candidates

Put in your electorate/location to suit.

Tafari Walton was shot by police who were seeking to question him over the stabbing murder of his former partner, 27-year-old Gabriella Thompson. The 22-year-old had been released on parole and bail seven weeks earlier. The inquest, which began in January 2021, heard that Walton had repeatedly yelled at police to shoot him and had lunged towards an officer with a 10cm to 15cm knife in his hand.

ISSUES RAISED
Injured in custody, force used, mental health / cognitive impairment.

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

Senor Tron posted:

Having not kept up with things, what's the difference between NSW and VIC restrictions right now? They both seem to have a similar vaccination rate, so why did the NSW daily case numbers drop so much more than VIC?

Victoria had a lot more active cases when their restrictions eased because the criteria was vax rate not cases. 200 people infect 200 people in one state, 1000 infect 1000 in another.

Bill Posters
Apr 27, 2007

I'm tripping right now... Don't fuck this up for me.

Senor Tron posted:

Having not kept up with things, what's the difference between NSW and VIC restrictions right now? They both seem to have a similar vaccination rate, so why did the NSW daily case numbers drop so much more than VIC?

spaceblancmange posted:

Victoria had a lot more active cases when their restrictions eased because the criteria was vax rate not cases. 200 people infect 200 people in one state, 1000 infect 1000 in another.

Other theories include the colder, drier climate and the thousands of unvaccinated dickheads marching up and down Bourke street with tiny gallows.

SecretOfSteel
Apr 29, 2007

The secret of steel has always
carried with it a mystery.


Need to do something about "Property Developers" too. Every time I hear someone describe themselves as one, I automatically put them in the same basket as sleazy car salesmen.

The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

Intoluene posted:

My local election got cancelled because the entire council is under administration.

whittlesea?

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

kirbysuperstar posted:

"Alan Tudge leaves cabinet after former adviser alleges their affair was abusive"

hm, shocking

The quote I saw was that he was emotionally abusive and got physical "at least once".

Human garbage. Remember when he doxxed somebody in Parliament?

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Animal Friend posted:

The quote I saw was that he was emotionally abusive and got physical "at least once".

Human garbage. Remember when he doxxed somebody in Parliament?

Was that when he doxxed a welfare recipient to a journalist or is he a double doxxer

PalaNIN
Sep 19, 2004

LRLRRRLLRRLRLRLRRLRLR
Well the VIC upper house has passed the pandemic bill today so I look forward to everyone announcing the end of freedom in our heathen state.

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer

PalaNIN posted:

Well the VIC upper house has passed the pandemic bill today so I look forward to everyone announcing the end of freedom in our heathen state.

At least maybe the dickheads will go home now?

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

PalaNIN posted:

Well the VIC upper house has passed the pandemic bill today so I look forward to everyone announcing the end of freedom in our heathen state.

The MPs are struggling to string a sentence together when debating the Crown Casino bill, need some bags to perk things up a bit

Capt.Whorebags
Jan 10, 2005

Jezza of OZPOS posted:

Lmao if Qld is the exception to this because it absolutely is a LGA thing here

Fluoridation is carried out by the local council as they run the infrastructure, and technically they can refuse to fluoridate.

However it's a NSW Health Dept directive to fluoridate and there are substantial fines if the council stops, once fluoridation has commenced.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Senor Tron posted:

Having not kept up with things, what's the difference between NSW and VIC restrictions right now? They both seem to have a similar vaccination rate, so why did the NSW daily case numbers drop so much more than VIC?

- Melbourne's lockdown fatigue sent our numbers higher in the first place
- NSW very heavily targeted LGAs of concern in vaccination blitzes
- A higher existing case rate meant that when we reopened schools it got its hooks into kids (most of the clusters ATM are primary schools)
- God hates Victoria

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

For people in SA - is it a weird feeling to have been COVID-zero for so long and all of a sudden have cases coming in and the government expecting you to be cool with it (even if you know it was inevitable)?

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Silly question re WA politics.

So the WA Libs only have 2 seats in state parliament, after the most recent elections.

How about Federally? Also, will this anti state Lib sentiment translate to the Federal libs? Will they lose seats in WA? And if so, will it hurt them?

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

BrigadierSensible posted:

Silly question re WA politics.

So the WA Libs only have 2 seats in state parliament, after the most recent elections.

How about Federally? Also, will this anti state Lib sentiment translate to the Federal libs? Will they lose seats in WA? And if so, will it hurt them?

Even regardless of state politics the Federal Libs seem to have pissed a lot of people off by siding with Palmer against WA.

In terms of hurting, the margins will be really tight for Libs in the election, they effectively need to gain ground to stay in government because of seat redistribution

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

BrigadierSensible posted:

Silly question re WA politics.

So the WA Libs only have 2 seats in state parliament, after the most recent elections.

How about Federally? Also, will this anti state Lib sentiment translate to the Federal libs? Will they lose seats in WA? And if so, will it hurt them?

There are lots of commentators who are sticking to the conventional wisdom that state sentiment does not transfer to federal elections, which to me ignores the fact that the last two years have been more different than any other time in the past 70 years. Purely anecdotal, but all my family are in WA and I don't get the impression they think very kindly of the current federal government and the way it kept sledging Mark over the border closures, and would feel that way irrespective of whatever party Morrison happens to be.

I don't think we're going to see anything remotely as dramatic as the state election but I would be surprised if the Liberals don't lose votes to some degree.

Stoca Zola
Jun 28, 2008

freebooter posted:

For people in SA - is it a weird feeling to have been COVID-zero for so long and all of a sudden have cases coming in and the government expecting you to be cool with it (even if you know it was inevitable)?

It's pretty loving horrible. I was talking to my immunocompromised neighbor, who is a health care worker. She says the hospital have been rolling out training for advanced life support, losing tons of older anti vax nurses, she's resigned to being in full PPE so she can still work. She thinks the new nurses coming in are hopelessly under experienced. The hospital knows they aren't going to be able to handle it when Covid gets out of hand but they're trying their best to be prepared with what they have. It's just grim and it feels like it didn't have to be this way.

Night Shade
Jan 13, 2013

Old School

Stoca Zola posted:

It's pretty loving horrible. I was talking to my immunocompromised neighbor, who is a health care worker. She says the hospital have been rolling out training for advanced life support, losing tons of older anti vax nurses, she's resigned to being in full PPE so she can still work. She thinks the new nurses coming in are hopelessly under experienced. The hospital knows they aren't going to be able to handle it when Covid gets out of hand but they're trying their best to be prepared with what they have. It's just grim and it feels like it didn't have to be this way.

Yeah even without covid, on any given day you'll see a queue of ambulances waiting outside of EDs to offload patients. I have no idea how they think the medical system is going to cope with covid cases when it already isn't coping without them.

Immunocompromised family makes it hit pretty close to home too. They are vaccinated, for what little good it'll actually do for them.

Intoluene
Jul 6, 2011

Activating self-destruct sequence!
Fun Shoe

Central Coast NSW

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I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
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