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who cares though? like, "episode 7 the force awakens spoils that the empire lost? what the gently caress?" you pick up a related series in the same world, you expect to learn things about the original. why would they deny themselves the ability to tell an ongoing story about the world that is the core of their brand out of some silly concern for "spoilers" eke out fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Dec 4, 2021 |
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KNowing whether or not the Briarwoods live isn't the important or fun part of C1, it's the how and the why and the goofs made along the way. Spoilers aren't real, the punchline isn't the whole of the joke.
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Dec 4, 2021 00:33
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Hulk Smash! posted:I may just be cynical but it feels like it's on purpose to drum up interest in C1's characters and story in preparation to the show. It's ~Brand Synergy~ I think you are being a touch overly cynical. The cast loved their C1 stories and it seems natural to want to keep interacting with it somewhat, even though they no longer play those characters. VM were a big deal, and it seems fair that their actions would continue to have an influence. C2 was probably a little “unnatural” in how little C1 was brought up (especially at first), but I can understand wanting to establish from the outset that they weren’t just going to resume the previous campaign.
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Dec 4, 2021 00:37
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Nemo2342 posted:I think you are being a touch overly cynical. The cast loved their C1 stories and it seems natural to want to keep interacting with it somewhat, even though they no longer play those characters. VM were a big deal, and it seems fair that their actions would continue to have an influence. yeah C2 is a reaction to their unbelievable success in a whole bunch of different ways, from the "okay we're playing on a totally different continent so we don't interact with ANY of it for a long time" to everyone playing hugely different personalities C3 still has them trying new things but immediately has been a more global, interconnected world with hooks back to C1 despite being far away. Wouldn't be surprised if the PCs make it back to Emon or Whitestone or whatever the place keyleth is at, eventually
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Dec 4, 2021 00:40
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Yeah I mean…I know what they’re referencing as someone who watched C1, but how much would people who haven’t seen it specifically know now after these C3 episodes? Would they even understand what’s being referenced enough to be “spoiled?”
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I'll bet there's a whole bunch of people who started with EXU or C3 because someone told them it would be fine to start there on the basis that C2 was mostly safe for C1 spoilers and now big chunks of the imminent animated show are spoiled for them with no warning.
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Dec 4, 2021 00:49
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I'm actually refusing to watch c1 because it would spoil me on c3.
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:They're the original creators making a sequel to their existing work. That's like complaining that George R. R. Martin was spoiling the upcoming Game of Thrones adaptation by releasing a new Song of Ice and Fire novel. Hulk Smash! posted:I may just be cynical but it feels like it's on purpose to drum up interest in C1's characters and story in preparation to the show. It's ~Brand Synergy~ Lucas Archer posted:Okay, I just have to mention one pet peeve I have about how Matt runs the game, and to a lesser extent, how the cast interacts with the game. If we want to go universelogic... is there much reason to believe our criminal underbosses and such would perceive them as threats that need to be dealt with for being disrespectful or generally goofy?
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Dec 4, 2021 00:56
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Paracaidas posted:See, I read this the other direction... creating hooks to Legends in order to convert the "I'm not watching 400 hours of this poo poo.on a whim but I'll try 4 hours of animation" crowd to campaign watchers.
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Dec 4, 2021 03:27
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It's a fantasy world where criminals are specifically more like captain hook than peaky blinders. (I hate this argument, but I can believe that Matt just doesn't want to spend time on criminal underbosses since he really doesn't like absolute villains sub bbeg very much). Frankly, if he made an example of the shadow baker for sending them there, it would make more sense than attacking the group.
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If people follow CollegeHumor/Dropout, Aabria and Taliesin both just did an episode of Um Actually, their nerd gameshow. Matt and Marisha have both been on it quite a few times also.
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Senjuro posted:I'll bet there's a whole bunch of people who started with EXU or C3 because someone told them it would be fine to start there on the basis that C2 was mostly safe for C1 spoilers and now big chunks of the imminent animated show are spoiled for them with no warning. You see I got around this problem by starting with C1 and going from there... I really like the fact that they're referencing C1 so much and I want more it, I hope they eventually go to Vasselheim at some point because I want to see what they've done with the giant titan there. Whats the point of having a "persistent world" if you don't reference it to avoid spoiling it for people who didn't bother to watch that earlier part anyway? Imagine if they didn't win against Lucian at the ends of C2 but it didn't affect the world in anyway for C3 for the reason "it would be spoiling that they lost at the end of C2" it would be dumb and it would suck.
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Dragonstoned posted:You see I got around this problem by starting with C1 and going from there... Yep, this exactly. Referencing earlier seasons is cool and good and rewarding to longtime viewers.
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Dec 4, 2021 04:17
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C2 spoils C1 because the world is not ruled by Vecna in it
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As someone who has not watched C1 and only like 20 episodes of C2, I don't care about references the cast make to the world they are role-playing in and have developed over the years. It does spoil some stuff, sure, but it also helps make the world feel like it's actually alive.
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Dec 4, 2021 07:27
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The BBEG in crit role is the fandom. This toxic morass of poo poo that can't just watch something and enjoy it for what it is.
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Anyone who is super into Critical Role to the point that the references made in C3 spoil C1 for them if they started in C2 were probably already spoiled when they bought the campaign D&D book since these spoilers are pretty much on the same level
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lemonadesweetheart posted:The BBEG in crit role is the fandom. This toxic morass of poo poo that can't just watch something and enjoy it for what it is. Wow, spoilers dude!
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There’s Dungeons AND Dragons?!?!?
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:There’s Dungeons AND Dragons?!?!? Make your home game more memorable by banning Dragons and avoiding Dungeons. Settle in with a nice game of And with friends.
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I've been burning through C1 and I just made it past the Briarwoods before this episode and I'm like "holyyyy poo poo!". I don't know if they'll ever top the characters in C1, they're just. so. drat. good. I made it halfway through C2 before I couldn't keep up... I absolutely enjoyed what I did watch, and even saw them live @ Gencon. It was amazing. C3 seems like they haven't found their footing yet.
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Dec 5, 2021 17:00
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the Benefit that C1 had was that they already had their characters pretty much nailed by the time they started streaming. C2 and C3 you are seeing the entire process of them figuring things out.
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I think the archetypes also worked to their favour in C1. Vox Machina are very stereotypical 'hero' types in a lot of ways, but that makes them easy to grasp. The Nein and the new ones have a bit more bubbling under the surface that's designed to come out over time, which makes sense for actors to enjoy exploring.
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Dec 5, 2021 20:02
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C1 was their best campaign but C2 and C3 both started better tbh.
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Dec 5, 2021 21:36
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Sometimes I swear I'm the only Clarota fan  Besides, inexplicably, the party.
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Paracaidas posted:Sometimes I swear I'm the only Clarota fan I also love Clarota. Also I love Ashley releasing her inner evil demon only to lose the faith of her god for doing so.
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Vax made C1 unwatchable for me. Sorry Liam I like Orym though.
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:Vax made C1 unwatchable for me. Sorry Liam I like Orym though. Yeah, I'm liking Orym Drama a lot more than Vax Drama. It's just the right amount of subdued, and it was hilarious to see it just steamrolled over in the drinking game.
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I liked C1s overall story better, largely because it was simple and easy to understand. However I liked C2's characters better, partly because we did get to watch them go from zero to hero, and partly because they were more interesting than stereotypical archetypes in C1.
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I agree that C1's overall story was much more memorable, even if it was more of a typical hero story. I loved campaign two, but I feel like when I think back on favorite moments and memories of the show, the vast majority come from campaign one. The climax of the underdark arc, the Briarwoods, and Chroma Conclave are all really hard to beat. I can remember the major plot beats of campaign one after all of these years, but already have big gaps in memory concerning plot points from season two. Campaign 3 already feels like it is starting at a quicker pace than 2. The characters are also endearing themselves to me much quicker than those of season 2. I already like Laudna and Ferne more than their C1 and C2 characters (not that I disliked previous characters). Orym is really endearing in some way that Caleb was not at the beginning. Sam is doing great turning what could have been a gimmick into an interesting character. Robbie is the perfect addition to the cast (as has been said to death). I already care about these characters alot more than I did the Mighty Nine the same number of episodes into campaign 2. It may just be because everyone is playing so well into their strengths this time around.
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Can someone explain to me the significance of Orym clutching the sending stone so desperately at the end of this last episode? I feel like I must have missed something.
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Sax Solo posted:Can someone explain to me the significance of Orym clutching the sending stone so desperately at the end of this last episode? I feel like I must have missed something. Because earlier in the episode he was reminded of the last time he lost people he cared about and now familiar worries are bubbling up to the surface
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Sax Solo posted:Can someone explain to me the significance of Orym clutching the sending stone so desperately at the end of this last episode? I feel like I must have missed something. Dorian had the other one right? Just a little character building of the relationship between Orym and Dorian here I think.
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Dec 6, 2021 20:42
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Orym really reminds me of the one guy in a group who really thinks he's closer friends with everyone than anyone else does.
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I dunno, Orym Dorian and Fearne seem pretty tight.
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DaiJiaTeng posted:I agree that C1's overall story was much more memorable, even if it was more of a typical hero story. I remember the plot beats from C1 better, but I remember way more of C2's character moments. Jester tricking the Hag, Fjord tossing his sword into the lava, Caleb turning the whole campaign on its head, Beau getting everyone past the Plank King, etc.
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DaiJiaTeng posted:I already like Laudna and Ferne more than their C1 and C2 characters (not that I disliked previous characters) Laudna and especially Fearne are easily my favourite characters so far, which in a cost of all Best Folks isn't saying that much. I honestly think FCG is the one I like the least so far. Like, they're still good, just everyone else is moreso.
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Sam just started out with two characters so perfect for him that any subsequent ones were bound to pale in comparison. Scanlan was simply his id and Tary was a personification of his love of trolling the cast.
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Nemo2342 posted:I remember the plot beats from C1 better, but I remember way more of C2's character moments. Jester tricking the Hag, Fjord tossing his sword into the lava, Caleb turning the whole campaign on its head, Beau getting everyone past the Plank King, etc. That's a really good point. I agree completely. C2 had stronger character moments overall. Lotus Aura posted:Laudna and especially Fearne are easily my favourite characters so far, which in a cost of all Best Folks isn't saying that much. Yeah, everyone is doing great. We will get some great character moments as this campaign goes on.
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