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You should put in waiver claims and try to win regardless, but you should absolutely be trying to do it when there is a weekly high score prize. You have every right to try to win that every single week.
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Why the hell wouldn’t you make waiver claims? Do you think giving other teams free wins is somehow the right thing to do?
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Dec 7, 2021 17:01
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Yeah, I really don't understand the thinking there...it's not like putting waiver claims in requires any effort whatsoever. Continue to play the game as if you give a drat, and don't do anything via action or inaction that makes it easier for someone else to make the championship.
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Dec 7, 2021 17:30
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SouthShoreSamurai posted:I tried to tell you. I'm still 50/50 on whether or not it would have worked out as there were a ton of moving parts. My RB situation outside of jones was Sanders and Gaskin and I didn't see Hurts becoming a top-3 fantasy QB at the beginning of the season. TE was ugly early too since I didn't have Hock or Schultz at the beginning. Didn't see Pittman and Mooney (and Renfrow!) making the leaps they did in 2021 either but if that continues and my picks pan out I should be set depth-wise for a while. I don't think I would have been nearly as aggressive on the WW either if I hadn't made the decision to play for assets this year. D'ernest Johnson and Khalil Herbert probably kept me in a couple of games I otherwise had no business being in. On the one hand, that devalued my picks. On the other hand, if either of them gets a more prominent role, either with their current teams or elsewhere, that's going to be great. And yeah always do whatever you can to win even if its hopeless. If for no other reason than it sucks and is boring being in leagues with people who don't give a poo poo.
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Dec 7, 2021 17:46
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Need to win and keep a 20 point lead on the guy behind me to juuuuuust sneak into the playoffs. I picked a hell of a time to have to choose between Zeke and Pollard.
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Dec 7, 2021 17:54
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I have scored under 120 two times this entire year and I am out of the playoffs in 7th place at best. im done crying ITT cause it's over but good loving God.
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Dec 7, 2021 18:23
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Mikey Purp posted:Yeah, I really don't understand the thinking there...it's not like putting waiver claims in requires any effort whatsoever. Continue to play the game as if you give a drat, and don't do anything via action or inaction that makes it easier for someone else to make the championship. I think it's a bit of a dick move to outbid someone on players I don't actually need since I'm already out of the playoffs. e: that said, I'm not making any wild overbids on anyone. And I do have claims put in for defenses this week.
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Dec 7, 2021 18:23
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Dango Bango posted:I think it's a bit of a dick move to outbid someone on players I don't actually need since I'm already out of the playoffs. Yeah this is where I stand. I will try to beat someone, but I don't think you should gently caress with someone else's money. I think waiting until waivers clear is a solid compromise. I'll still try my best to win, but let the guys in the running get first say.
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Dec 7, 2021 18:49
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If there aren't league rules locking eliminated teams out of making waiver claims, then make waiver claims. C'mon, now.
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Dec 7, 2021 18:50
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Sataere posted:Yeah this is where I stand. I will try to beat someone, but I don't think you should gently caress with someone else's money. I think waiting until waivers clear is a solid compromise. I'll still try my best to win, but let the guys in the running get first say. This is dumb and I couldn't disagree more.
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Dec 7, 2021 18:52
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You paid your entry fee, you aren't loving with someone's money, you're playing your entire fantasy football season that you paid to play. Why would you do add/drops but not waiver claims? The playoff teams are still trying to be strategic, they might be hoping someone goes unclaimed so they can save their waiver bucks for finals week if there's a big irl injury. You adding (or dropping) anyone is loving with their money as much as making claims is (and loving with everyone else's money since you're not trying to win as much as you were earlier in the year lol).
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Or more succinctly,Gobias Ind. posted:This is dumb and I couldn't disagree more.
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Listen, if you’re out of playoff contention and you aren’t dumping the remaining 90% of your FAAB on the only serviceable waiver TE because you know that Joey has a must-win week but Waller is hurt and Taylor is on bye and you want to try to keep him from the playoffs because he grifted a couple other owners out of Zeke and Henry early in the year in lovely one-sided trades but now it’s backfiring on him for the sweet schadenfreude of it all then I don’t even know why you’re playing this magical game of fate and cruelty.
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Dec 7, 2021 19:07
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Sataere posted:Yeah this is where I stand. I will try to beat someone, but I don't think you should gently caress with someone else's money. I think waiting until waivers clear is a solid compromise. I'll still try my best to win, but let the guys in the running get first say. If you aren't putting your best lineup in every week then you're loving with somebody since you're making it easier for your opponent to get a win
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Dec 7, 2021 19:25
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Gobias Ind. posted:This is dumb and I couldn't disagree more. You aren't wrong. Poque posted:If you aren't putting your best lineup in every week then you're loving with somebody since you're making it easier for your opponent to get a win If I was able to put my best lineup in, I'd still be in contention. I agree with all your points in theory, but let's be real. First, the odds of anything worthwhile coming from the waiver wire in week 14 are negligible. Second, I think putting in waiver claims after you are eliminated do more to gently caress with the competitive balance of the league than anything. Unless there are weekly payouts, all eliminated players with waiver claims does is add chaos to the league. Let the good teams battle it out. I'm sure we've all been on the side of having some last place guy claim a player when you suddenly have an injury and it is pretty infuriating to have a championship run hosed up because some rear end in a top hat who already lost is loving your poo poo up out of spite. Put your best lineup forward. Grab guys who clear waivers. But putting in claims is silly to me. I think that hurts leagues more and creates needless drama. It should be noted that almost every league I'm in locks you out of waiver claims once you are eliminated for this reason.
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Dec 7, 2021 19:35
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Sataere posted:If I was able to put my best lineup in, I'd still be in contention. Come on. This very clearly means that you should be trying to but together the best lineup you can every week. That's true whether you're 10-1 or 1-10. Sataere posted:I agree with all your points in theory, but let's be real. First, the odds of anything worthwhile coming from the waiver wire in week 14 are negligible. Second, I think putting in waiver claims after you are eliminated do more to gently caress with the competitive balance of the league than anything. Unless there are weekly payouts, all eliminated players with waiver claims does is add chaos to the league. Let the good teams battle it out. This is asinine. You aren't loving anything up by playing. And there are absolutely difference makers on the wire at this stage. I'm pretty sure Mattison was like 50-60% owned before Cook got hurt. He's a potential league winner. I can understand locking teams once the playoffs have started and only allowing teams that are still alive to make moves. That's fine. This is the regular season. The guy that brought this up has a weekly prize that he should absolutely be trying to win, but even if he didn't I feel the same way. What fucks up the competitive balance in a league is guys not trying anymore and some teams getting easy wins down the stretch as a result. Everyone should be trying to win every week, period. And sure it's frustrating to get sniped on the wire but then maybe you should have held on to a higher priority or saved more FAAB! That's the game! Sorry that you don't just get to grab all the best available players I guess?
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Dec 7, 2021 20:08
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dkj posted:The weather is supposed to be really bad. High winds, rain, and below freezing. Oh hey it happened!  Playoffs clinched for me.
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Dec 7, 2021 20:12
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Why the gently caress are there byes in week 14
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kiimo posted:Why the gently caress are there byes in week 14 No Fun League!!!!!!!
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Dec 7, 2021 20:24
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Because there's 18 weeks now. All leagues should definitely move the playoffs to 15-17 but one of our goon leagues is still 14-16 so now I've got Miles Sanders on a bye in my first round playoff matchup. That may be a blessing in disguise knowing Sanders, but it still stinks and shouldn't happen!
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Dec 7, 2021 20:25
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Sataere posted:It should be noted that almost every league I'm in locks you out of waiver claims once you are eliminated for this reason. It’s also noted that almost every league you’re in is boring. Where’s the anarchy? The rivalry? Fantasy is built on the chaos of bullshit luck and petty roster moves. It’s why I’ll never understand the leagues where they award points based on weekly score. I get it’s lovely to have a high scoring team and be unlucky (trust me I’ve been in last with top-3 PF more than once) but maybe I’m just a masochist who follows the Old Ways.
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Dec 7, 2021 20:27
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While we're on the subject I just realized Cleveland played Baltimore, then had a bye, now plays Baltimore again. That seems like some shitt scheduling. But more importantly I can't tell if Landry will be better or worse this game
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Dec 7, 2021 20:32
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Whoreson Welles posted:Listen, if you’re out of playoff contention and you aren’t dumping the remaining 90% of your FAAB on the only serviceable waiver TE because you know that Joey has a must-win week but Waller is hurt and Taylor is on bye and you want to try to keep him from the playoffs because he grifted a couple other owners out of Zeke and Henry early in the year in lovely one-sided trades but now it’s backfiring on him for the sweet schadenfreude of it all then I don’t even know why you’re playing this magical game of fate and cruelty. Mattison got dropped right before Dalvin got hurt in one league I'm in. An eliminated player spent 100% FAAB on Mattison to gently caress with the rest of the league. It was the right move.
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Whoreson Welles posted:Listen, if you’re out of playoff contention and you aren’t dumping the remaining 90% of your FAAB on the only serviceable waiver TE because you know that Joey has a must-win week but Waller is hurt and Taylor is on bye and you want to try to keep him from the playoffs because he grifted a couple other owners out of Zeke and Henry early in the year in lovely one-sided trades but now it’s backfiring on him for the sweet schadenfreude of it all then I don’t even know why you’re playing this magical game of fate and cruelty. Can’t take the FAAB with you, blow it all on Ameer Abdullah.
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Dec 7, 2021 20:59
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I was thinking about doing a a guillotine league but don't like the idea of complete elimination so I came up with this overly complicated setup. Would love to hear some feedback or ways in which it wouldn't work.
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If victory points are the only way to win and the only way you get them is by converting faab, I’d immediately convert my initial faab to 100 victory points and hope that I beat some teams and keep cashing in. Never played in a guillotine league before but FA/waivers sound like a mess if you lose 1 full team to waivers one week, 2 the next and so on. If it’s a 12 team league is the Super Bowl in week 11?
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Silly Burrito posted:If victory points are the only way to win and the only way you get them is by converting faab, I’d immediately convert my initial faab to 100 victory points and hope that I beat some teams and keep cashing in. The downside is that if all the Week 1 projections turn out to be faulty and your team actually sucks, you lose out on the chance to pick up any juicy free agents in Week 2. quote:Never played in a guillotine league before but FA/waivers sound like a mess if you lose 1 full team to waivers one week, 2 the next and so on. If it’s a 12 team league is the Super Bowl in week 11?
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Dec 7, 2021 21:52
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Poque posted:If you aren't putting your best lineup in every week then you're loving with somebody since you're making it easier for your opponent to get a win This. You are loving with someone’s money by giving ANY team an easier path to a win. Just play the game to win every week, as god intended.
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Dec 7, 2021 22:02
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I watched MNF with a guy who needed 5 points from Mac Jones and it was the first time I've ever enjoyed a Patriots win.
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Are we still posting our brag-posts, because BEHOLD A 12-1 TEAM RedZone (Taylor's Version)  ....and also behold the team that just put up a 200-point week and is definitely gonna beat me in the championship: 
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rank these WRs and DSTs for a week _15_ stash in PPR: Julio Jones @ PIT Amon-Ra St Brown vs ARI AJ Green @ DET CLE vs LV KC @ LAC DEN vs CIN GBP @ BAL trying to figure what to do with my bottom couple of roster slots for a team locked into the wildcard pmchem fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Dec 8, 2021 |
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Dec 7, 2021 23:58
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pmchem posted:rank these WRs and DSTs for a week _15_ stash in PPR: I'd go in that exact order for defenses with a STRONG preference to Cleveland. Flip Julio and Amon-Ra for WRs but none of those three are particularly juicy unless there's confirmation that Julio's role will return at all.
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Dec 8, 2021 00:16
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pmchem posted:rank these WRs and DSTs for a week _15_ stash in PPR: I would be horrified if I had to start any of these in a playoff game. Maybe the Browns if the weather is bad? Or Denver, if Burrow's finger is truly hosed.
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Without AJ Brown I'd have to assume Julio will play a fairly big role. At least until he gets hurt again The defenses though, no thanks.
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Are Julio Jones or Dontrell Hilliard worth grabbing as playoff stashes If it meant giving up Rhamondre Stevenson and/or Jerry Jeudy? .5 PPR
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Poque posted:I'd go in that exact order for defenses with a STRONG preference to Cleveland. Flip Julio and Amon-Ra for WRs but none of those three are particularly juicy unless there's confirmation that Julio's role will return at all. generally agreed on the WRs, can't figure out what I like for the D/ST's coronaball posted:I would be horrified if I had to start any of these in a playoff game. Maybe the Browns if the weather is bad? Or Denver, if Burrow's finger is truly hosed. yeah, defenses in week 15 are really thin, the juicy matchups like NYJ and DET are playing against bad defenses and other good defenses are all claimed I guess PIT (vs TEN) is also on the wire and TEN is kinda banged up. So throw them in the above list too. NO and CAR are available but have terrible matchups.
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Vargo posted:Are Julio Jones or Dontrell Hilliard worth grabbing as playoff stashes If it meant giving up Rhamondre Stevenson and/or Jerry Jeudy? .5 PPR
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^^^ Agreed on keeping rhamode at all costs.coronaball posted:I would be horrified if I had to start any of these in a playoff game. Can I pile on here? Pick two: Adam Thielen Juju Robert woods Antonio Brown Sterling shepherd (quad) Jakobi Meyers (bye) I am going to have to call up Gabe Davis and KJ Osborne because I have to play 2 wrs.
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Spermy Smurf posted:^^^ Agreed on keeping rhamode at all costs. lol. At least Osborn has a huge chunk of targets to take from Thielen.
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