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Cosmic Thing posted:this poo poo is p serious and i cant tell if you guys get how crazy that weather was or are making fun of it. Someone even said us red staters don't have the structures necessary to keep us alive in these events and then cavalierly said enjoy climate change which implies we will all die and they are happy about it which is just creepy and gross and amid already learning that at least 100 people HAVE died and wasn't even probed for it. The loss of life is sad. The loss of life because of lackluster building code and zoning is criminal, especially in workplaces. The icing on the cake is that some of those people risked their lives for a measly $8/hr because Kentucky won't raise their minimum wage to something remotely livable (lol capitalism). It's a crack-ping event. Those that were already crack-pinged are laughing because it's just another log on the "world is burning" bonfire that is climate change. Kentucky has pretty much adopted a "lol" stance publicly towards the science so the natural response from those that have moved on is going to be "lol." It's unfortunate, yes, but so are Kentucky's effective building code enforcement, or emergency management administration. But those might infringe on the average voting Kentuckian freedom to live in a favela. That's not meant to be reflective on you, but your neighbors and elected officials. I lived in three of the affected states (IL, KY and TN), the entire region seems staunchly against progressing because they tie it to their politics, effectively voting against their own interests. I now live in Boebert's congressional district, so I've got my own electorial schadenfreude to hear about (moved here after she was elected). Not much is going to survive an F5, but that doesn't mean you can't require hardened spaces in homes or workplaces for people to at least try to survive. The lol posts are more based in anger than you'd suspect, they're just already crack-pinged.
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Earwicker posted:there's another layer on top of the typical goon/gbs attitude, and it ties in with the bullshit culture wars that have been building up over the last few decades. in recent previous disasters, especially when they affect more "liberal" areas, we've had far right christians saying these disasters occur because god is punishing people for gay marriage or abortion being legal etc. and i dont mean just on edgy internet forums but like in actual tv interviews and in their churches. so people get into this kind of ugly vengeance mindset and say the same kind of poo poo from the other side, which is stupid because the people who were killed are not the ones responsible for this culture war poo poo yeh, ~hate~ is gross no matter if you're liberal or republican. id rather practice what those christian's prophet ~tried~ and failed to teach them then be a part of some weird Orwellian fist shaking non-sensible back and forth culture war. Cosmic Thing fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Dec 12, 2021 |
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Cosmic Thing posted:yeh, ~hate~ is gross no matter if your liberal or republican. No, hate from liberals is perfectly justified because the republicans think everyone who isn't a white male supremacist is evil and must die. It's like saying it's gross to hate nazies.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:The loss of life is sad. The loss of life because of lackluster building code and zoning is criminal, especially in workplaces. The icing on the cake is that some of those people risked their lives for a measly $8/hr because Kentucky won't raise their minimum wage to something remotely livable (lol capitalism). that is a great drat post. honestly i think everyone kinda wants the world to burn and all be done and like for different reasons. like those religious folks are probably like yeah well we need our prophecies to be played out and then there's the folks looking around at this terribly painful and hosed up world we've created that is now on fire and are like yep this sucks i want to get off now please. yeh lol capitalism. oh and yeh i live in TN 
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Cosmic Thing posted:that is a great drat post. honestly i think everyone kinda wants the world to burn and all be done and like for different reasons. like those religious folks are probably like yeah well we need our prophecies to be played out and then there's the folks looking around at this terribly painful and hosed up world we've created that is now on fire and are like yep this sucks i want to get off now please. yeh lol capitalism. oh and yeh i live in TN Group 2 is a natural response to Group 1.
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Yaldabaoth posted:No, hate from liberals is perfectly justified because the republicans think everyone who isn't a white male supremacist is evil and must die. It's like saying it's gross to hate nazies. imo there is nothing at all wrong with hating on shitheads like rand paul. gently caress him but implying that the people who died in this storm somehow deserved it because they live in a red state or have local leaders who ignore climate change is stupid and a pretty awful thing to do
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Earwicker posted:that's a fair point. but even so if you go back as recently as just the 1980's there were far fewer tornados in that decade compared to the 2010's, was radar technology so bad in the 80's that most storms would have gone unnoticed? Bad Purchase posted:I don't know, but I do know that weather radar networks have improved significantly in my lifetime. Specifically I remember locals news starting to brag about their fancy new weather radar in the late 90s that made their forecasts and storm warnings that much better than those other guys. I would guess there were pretty steady incremental upgrades in both hardware quality (sensitivity / resolution), tower coverage, and sensor data processing over the past 50 years. I don't think you'll find that they just flipped a switch in one specific year and the tracking of tornadoes went from bad to good. Just a guess
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Sid Vicious posted:hating stuff takes too much energy really? whelp i'll exchange apologies whenever you're ready. 
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Earwicker posted:imo there is nothing at all wrong with hating on shitheads like rand paul. gently caress him My problem is people who tell liberals to stop hating altogether instead of letting them focus on the shitheads who deserve it, because the shitheads sure as hell aren't going to stop hating liberals.
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Earwicker posted:imo there is nothing at all wrong with hating on shitheads like rand paul. gently caress him thank you for that. cuz again that poster was not probed either. I live in a red state. i can't help that nor the fact i don't have the money to leave do i deserve to suffer because my states leaders are douchebag misogynistic republican asswipes? or what about those people in the candle factory just trying to earn a living who DID die. Yaldabaoth posted:My problem is people who tell liberals to stop hating altogether instead of letting them focus on the shitheads who deserve it, because the shitheads sure as hell aren't going to stop hating liberals. yeh but you see how that is a slippery slope? first adding negativity to negativity NEVER solved anything to say the least and secondly now you have people loling over everyone in a whole geographical area which also includes liberals.
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Earwicker posted:imo there is nothing at all wrong with hating on shitheads like rand paul. gently caress him i agree with this but i think there's only been like.. 2 posts itt that even remotely approach that? and now a shitload of posts getting mad about them. unless the beef/my shoes rage is about the jokes because if so lmao
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well i think it sparked a productive discussion that is clearly void of rage? so im confused by your comment and you can poo poo on it if you want but im enjoying reading other people's perspectives because i read one perspective that really did hurt me but also did get me wondering and i think bringing it up is expanding this conversation and pulling out some cool thoughts and nobody is ~angry~. also i think a lot of people are encouraging empathy, and your comment is kinda... ...hurtful? Cosmic Thing fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Dec 12, 2021 |
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Cosmic Thing posted:
Slippery slope is a logical fallacy. Also the “NEVER” is an absolute statement logical fallacy.
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Lord Decimus Barnacle posted:Slippery slope is a logical fallacy. Also the “NEVER” is an absolute statement logical fallacy. haha oh you're totally right.
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Cosmic Thing posted:really? whelp i'll exchange apologies whenever you're ready. being upset someone stalked and gaslit me is different than hating someone
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Cosmic Thing posted:this poo poo is p serious and i cant tell if you guys get how crazy that weather was or are making fun of it people are grieving the literal death of entire ecosystems, let's not pretend to be offended that some of them are cracking jokes
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Cosmic Thing posted:yeh but you see how that is a slippery slope? Nope, that's like saying black people hating the klan is a slippery slope.
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Sid Vicious posted:hating stuff takes too much energy
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i really appreciated the thoughts in this thread but im dipping out of this conversation now. Thanks again.
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as a formal show of empathy I would like to apologize specifically to the family of those who were rolling coal right up until the minute they were plucked out of their trucks and shot straight in to the stratosphere, turning into stars team rocket style. 
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I love how republicans think it's alright for them to hate everything and wrong for anybody to hate them because they're the "good" guys who are simply doing the "morally right" thing while everyone else is an evil subhuman who wants to destroy the republicans out of pure jealousy. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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be mad if you want but if you're making up a theoretical republican construct in your mind to argue with thats not healthy imo
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if biden had abolished suburbs like he promised, most of this could've been avoided
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enough politics in the serious tornado discussion SLASH tasteless jokes megathread gosh darn it
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did you hear the one about the guy who got picked up by a tornado? you know what never mind its probably over your head
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I've ridden the Round Up and Gravitron at the carnival and I can't imagine a tornado is much worse yeesh
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Hector Delgado posted:I've ridden the Round Up and Gravitron at the carnival and I can't imagine a tornado is much worse yeesh the gravitron seven times in a row made me barf the most violently i have ever barfed before
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what's the round up? I assume the gravitron is the one where you get whirled around and the floor goes out from under you
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Aardvark! posted:what's the round up? I assume the gravitron is the one where you get whirled around and the floor goes out from under you its what they spray on weeds to kill then
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Sid Vicious posted:the gravitron seven times in a row made me barf the most violently i have ever barfed before lol what the first 6 times were fine and then after (or... During???) number 7 you became a fire hose??
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Aardvark! posted:lol what the first 6 times were fine and then after (or... During???) number 7 you became a fire hose?? right after i got off from ride number 7 i just let loose, sorry for ruining your shoes Max
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It's basically the same thing, but you're inside a UFO for the Gravitron. The Round Up is open air and tilts more.
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Sid Vicious posted:did you hear the one about the guy who got picked up by a tornado? you know what never mind its probably over your head Lol
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I just looked it up and it turns out I've only ever done this even lamer open air version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtjGZgssEEI Enjoy that exquisite video quality 
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Jesus christ. Anyways here is the Round Up https://youtu.be/6NAZtd-qHSQ
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I'm surprised we went this far without a sharknado reference so here we are
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Crespolini posted:dunno. ground too wet for basements maybe? There are houses with basements here but typically it’s only nicer, more expensive houses that have basements. When I was house shopping a few years ago, pretty much any house with a basement was outside of our budget. And the tornado didn’t just hit the upper class, nicer neighborhoods. E: Yes, Kentucky is a red state but Bowling Green is a college town and leans left. Sublimer fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Dec 12, 2021 |
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EorayMel posted:I'm surprised we went this far without a sharknado reference so here we are There are no sharks in Kentucky as it is not near a coast. Also lacking the presence of Tara Reid. The IL/KY/TN area is more likely to be overtaken with a raccoonado or possumnado (or opossumnado). Maybe an occasional deernado if it's around rut.
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