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BrainParasite posted:Hallucinogenic piss is a real thing We've all read Exalted.
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Dec 16, 2021 08:03
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I'm still trying to forget I did
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Dec 16, 2021 08:15
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Protesting "Why would somebody presume a dungeon might contain a sexual fantasy?!" is just willfully ignoring context for the sake of combat at this point.
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Dec 16, 2021 18:32
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On the other hand, "if someone likes something and I don't understand why, it must be a sex thing" is not a good principle.
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I fully buy it wasn't meant as a fetish, and someone who isn't internet poisoned probably wouldn't immediately go there. It still comes across as likely to derail as purile vs scary though. It's pretty easy to still keep the weirdness, horror, and grossness they wanted without the piss thing though. Just make it secretions. So they're milking the godling for bug juice. Hopefully the next revision removes the lamb from the whizzard's magical realm.
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Coolness Averted posted:I fully buy it wasn't meant as a fetish, and someone who isn't internet poisoned probably wouldn't immediately go there. It still comes across as likely to derail as purile vs scary though. I feel like the tone of this thing is extremely in the vein of Bloodborne and I think Bloodborne would have been a lesser game if a slew of beta testers had said "the blood thing is really gross, can't it just be runes or spells?"
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Dec 16, 2021 21:35
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My Lovely Horse posted:I submit that, as with many elements of RPGs, this is a question of having a group that buys into the tone. You don't play a game that involves peaceful negotiation between different races with a group that's apt to go "kill the scaleskins and take their loot" and you don't play a game that involves cults worshipping a godlike creature's least aspects with a group that's apt to go "lol ew the cultists are drinking pee pee". Part of choosing tone is also realizing when elements are too goofy to be taken seriously.
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My Lovely Horse posted:and you don't play a game that involves cults worshipping a godlike creature's least aspects with a group that's apt to go "lol ew the cultists are drinking pee pee". actually that sounds like a great thing to do
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Dec 16, 2021 22:10
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My Lovely Horse posted:I feel like the tone of this thing is extremely in the vein of Bloodborne and I think Bloodborne would have been a lesser game if a slew of beta testers had said "the blood thing is really gross, can't it just be runes or spells?" Caryll, the beta tester.
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DalaranJ posted:Caryll, the beta tester. 
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Subjunctive posted:Backer #1! I am so into this. CitizenKeen posted:I don't know what number backer I am, but I'll put your book on my shelf. best bale posted:Backed! You’re welcome Thank you all! And please everyone, whether you back or not, if you're active on other forums or reddit or wherever, let people know about the kickstarter!
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Coolness Averted posted:And I'd say if Bloodborne was about the old piss, and had factions like the vile piss, fewer people would take it seriously. Isn't this just Binding of Isaac?
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Dec 17, 2021 07:53
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I think it's probably possible to be sexual and gross on purpose without it being some kind of masturbatory exercise. Seems like a pretty common thing in a few genres. I am sure somebody out there has jerked it to the concept of The Milk of the Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young turning people into monsters, but I don't think that means whoever came up with it did so. Of course, it's cool for people not to want anything like that in their games. Piss is an especially bad choice because it sounds so juvenile.
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Dec 17, 2021 15:26
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Is horny the first thing you think of when you hear LSD piss? Is it because of the meme? I can't tell if we're doing a bit or if everyone's first thought when looking at the monster description that it was secretly a piss play fetish. I don't think I'm that naive, but my first instinct was not "Wow, could you imagine someone jerking off to this? Like could you imagine someone else getting turned on by this and exposing everyone else to their fetish, what a sicko that author is."
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The windmills have stopped working and the sailships are dead in the water, we are doomed, brave adventurers, unless you feed these magic beans to the wind dragon and
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but yeah in my mind the scenario is less like "you peer behind the curtain and to your horror the god beast is peeing all over the cultists from its eldritch weewee while they frolic in it" but more long-term esablishing there's a cult, there's their cult drug, there's their god beast, and let the players come to the conclusion that the cultists most holy sacrament is nothing but their god's bodily waste, without ever stating it directly. Not so much "the cultists are weird and gross and so is the DM and the author" but "the cultists are deranged and delusional and sad".
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My Lovely Horse posted:but yeah in my mind the scenario is less like "you peer behind the curtain and to your horror the god beast is peeing all over the cultists from its eldritch weewee while they frolic in it" but more long-term esablishing there's a cult, there's their cult drug, there's their god beast, and let the players come to the conclusion that the cultists most holy sacrament is nothing but their god's bodily waste, without ever stating it directly. Not so much "the cultists are weird and gross and so is the DM and the author" but "the cultists are deranged and delusional and sad". Basically nailed it. Honestly I've read the whole adventure a couple times and didn't even remember there was urine in it at all until this thread reminded me. It's in one room, the word "urine" appears in the PDF twice, and it's 100% possible for the players to never even put together that it's urine. It's pretty clear that an initial disgusted shock followed by "oh these guys are deranged and delusional and sad" is the exact thing the author is going for by including it. Johnny Landmine fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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Dec 17, 2021 16:07
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Dune would probably be less successful if Stilgar said "Bless the Maker and his pee, may his pee make us trip balls and let us see the future, bilal kaifa."
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Dec 17, 2021 16:16
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Maybe people are just a bit primed to find fetish stuff in OSR and OSR adjacent games because LotFP is one of the bigger names on the market.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Maybe people are just a bit primed to find fetish stuff in OSR and OSR adjacent games because LotFP is one of the bigger names on the market. Also the piss wizard is literally a gang-tag here.
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Dec 17, 2021 16:23
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Terrible Opinions posted:Maybe people are just a bit primed to find fetish stuff in OSR and OSR adjacent games because LotFP is one of the bigger names on the market. I don't think LotFP has been one of the most popular or best selling OSR systems for years now, it's been replaced by OSE/Troika/other stuff I can't remember off the top of my head.
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I think that sometimes a gross piss monster is just there to be a gross piss monster because piss is gross. It's not all that different from the endless plethora of sewer levels in videogames in my mind. Here's a gross place filled with disgusting stuff that you personally wouldn't want to interact with and neither does your character. Really that's the premise of the otyugh, isn't it. Trash is also something people generally don't want to be around and the otyugh plays with that sense of revulsion.
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Dec 17, 2021 16:25
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Arivia posted:I don't think LotFP has been one of the most popular or best selling OSR systems for years now, it's been replaced by OSE/Troika/other stuff I can't remember off the top of my head.
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Serf posted:I think that sometimes a gross piss monster is just there to be a gross piss monster because piss is gross. It's not all that different from the endless plethora of sewer levels in videogames in my mind. Here's a gross place filled with disgusting stuff that you personally wouldn't want to interact with and neither does your character. Really that's the premise of the otyugh, isn't it. Trash is also something people generally don't want to be around and the otyugh plays with that sense of revulsion. on one hand, the Great Mighty Poo from Conker's Bad Fur Day might just be a poop joke and not fetish stuff. On the other, the game is made by British developers.
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Dec 17, 2021 17:52
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Halloween Jack posted:Dune would probably be less successful if Stilgar said "Bless the Maker and his pee, may his pee make us trip balls and let us see the future, bilal kaifa." The stillsuit is stated to recycle your pee, though. Which you then drink. Not directed at you but if the thing says "piss" then yes, that is very juvenile, but I'm pretty sure the book doesn't say piss and pee and wee all the time and if the word urine or thinking about that makes you go "pee pee doo doo heheheh" then yeah, you can't play the module because you're 9 years old. Like yeah, Bloodborne but they talk about the Old Piss would be bad. Bloodborne but they talk about the Old Fluids? Seems fine to me, not as punchy as the Old Blood and no immediately obvious metaphor, but it also not immediately giggle worthy either. EthanSteele fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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Dec 17, 2021 18:07
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what if it was blue piss instead of blue blood
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My Lovely Horse posted:but yeah in my mind the scenario is less like "you peer behind the curtain and to your horror the god beast is peeing all over the cultists from its eldritch weewee while they frolic in it" but more long-term esablishing there's a cult, there's their cult drug, there's their god beast, and let the players come to the conclusion that the cultists most holy sacrament is nothing but their god's bodily waste, without ever stating it directly. Not so much "the cultists are weird and gross and so is the DM and the author" but "the cultists are deranged and delusional and sad". I figure blood has a different set of semiotics, so to speak, than various other fluids. You rarely hear about the bile or the phlegm compared to blood.
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EthanSteele posted:The stillsuit is stated to recycle your pee, though. Which you then drink. It cracks me up that the 2021 film removed the line "urine and feces are processed in the thighpads".
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Dec 17, 2021 18:34
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You know there are real world religions that wash things with animal pee pee and put the pee pee in their mouths and bathe in the pee pee. I'm glad my table top group isn't so deep into meta that they'd probably get a huge laugh out of the scenario and would go to comically far lengths not to touch the pee pee in any way, shape, or form. pee pee
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Nessus posted:You rarely hear about the bile or the phlegm compared to blood. Read more Promethean the Created then imo e: somewhere out there I'm sure someone has made a promethean extempore who bleeds piss and vinegar FirstAidKite fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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Dec 17, 2021 21:28
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As the person who first brought the phrase Magical Realm into this conversation I feel I should clarify that I was only referencing the piss part of the piss fetish comic much like other times we will reference the fetish part of the piss fetish comic when there is no piss present. I absolutely believe it is a juvenile attempt at horror rather than jackoff material. I brought it up because if I was writing a fake post for this forum where I invent a joke introductory adventure to make fun of OSR clichés I'd probably leave "and then they find a bunch of wizards drinking piss" on the cutting room floor for being too blatant. e: Boba Pearl posted:Is horny the first thing you think of when you hear LSD piss? Is it because of the meme? I can't tell if we're doing a bit or if everyone's first thought when looking at the monster description that it was secretly a piss play fetish. I don't think I'm that naive, but my first instinct was not "Wow, could you imagine someone jerking off to this? Like could you imagine someone else getting turned on by this and exposing everyone else to their fetish, what a sicko that author is." Splicer fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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Dec 17, 2021 22:44
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Yeah, I feel like we're really beating a pissing, dead racehorse at this point. The discussion, at least from me, was that the whole piss angle sounded like it would be taken in too juvenile a direction by most tables, which was counter to the body-horror themes the author was going for; there was some discussion about horror and atmosphere, the reactions were brought up to the original creator and he was all "Yeah, I see that. I'll probably change things up for the next revision". All in all things seem settled and we all learned a little bit about piss and a lot more about ourselves...
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Halloween Jack posted:Dune would probably be less successful if Stilgar said "Bless the Maker and his pee, may his pee make us trip balls and let us see the future, bilal kaifa." I see you are unfamiliar with the extended works of @duneauthor.
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Dec 18, 2021 02:01
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Trad Games Chat: i didnt peepee! i';m not a little piss boy!!!
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grassy gnoll posted:I see you are unfamiliar with the extended works of @duneauthor.
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sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, but sometimes it's totally a phallus the world is full of contrasts
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TK_Nyarlathotep posted:Trad Games Chat: i didnt peepee! i';m not a little piss boy!!!
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stop being so pissy
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