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Min was good though, both of her scenes were good. shame that i am guessing she will be a minor character at most considering her power is to predict the plot. loial just disappeared after they left the waygate. no ogiers allowed in fal dara? roomtone fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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I feel like the dialogue was uniquely problematic this episode though, since I previously only had minor gripes with the script, and looking at IMDB, most writers only have 6 episodes of credit so maybe it's another thing that got hosed up with COVID?
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Dec 17, 2021 13:06
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roomtone posted:Min was good though, both of her scenes were good. shame that i am guessing she will be a minor character at most considering her power is to predict the plot. special little bright red wooden house outside the gate just for Ogiers
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Dec 17, 2021 13:09
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I mean I’ve spent like 15 years hearing about how dumb and bad the books were, so I’ve actually been rather surprised by the show’s quality such as it is so far. Still really enjoying it, but I think that’s because I binged like the first five episodes in a single day, so if I’d had to wait weeks to get as far as I did I’d have probably dropped the show cold after episode 2 or 3. Someone compared this show to Hercules, and you know what, I’m kind of fine with that, seeing as how The Witcher is Netflix’s modern day Xena, so WoT makes a decent compliment to it in that regard.
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Dec 17, 2021 13:11
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nine-gear crow posted:I mean I’ve spent like 15 years hearing about how dumb and bad the books were, = The books are dumb and good  More seriously, the books have a lot of flaws, but there's a lot of quality in there too. They aren't for everyone certainly but anyone who's enjoying the show, I'd suggest after the season ends, go pick up the first book and give it a try, it's close enough but also different enough to the show so far that you'll probably like either if you like the other.
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MegaZeroX posted:I feel like the dialogue was uniquely problematic this episode though, since I previously only had minor gripes with the script, and looking at IMDB, most writers only have 6 episodes of credit so maybe it's another thing that got hosed up with COVID? I imagine there were fairly substantial rewrites necessitated by Barney Harris' exit.
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I'm generally happy with the writing but every time they say 'the darkness in Mat' I cringeroomtone posted:I don't buy that Perrin has any feelings towards Egwene at all based on what I've seen so far, it came out of nowhere - which didn't help. That whole scene of them arguing felt like a forced waste of time. If you watch the episodes again you'll see a fair few moments hinting at it
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roomtone posted:loial just disappeared after they left the waygate. no ogiers allowed in fal dara? the stupid hair budget ran out
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Dec 17, 2021 13:42
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she tugged her braid after sex btw
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Rarity posted:If you watch the episodes again you'll see a fair few moments hinting at it It's very obvious in the first episode when Egwene comes into the inn and Nyn has to go to Perrin and be like, hey, don't you have a loving wife to husband right now?? Which, uh, makes Perrin look like kind of an awful person tbh.
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KOGAHAZAN!! posted:It's very obvious in the first episode when Egwene comes into the inn and Nyn has to go to Perrin and be like, hey, don't you have a loving wife to husband right now?? she was a darkfriend who was gonna smash him with her hammer
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lumpentroll posted:she tugged her braid after sex btw lol
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lumpentroll posted:she tugged her braid after sex btw Isn't that a sign of frustration? Lan, not a skilled lover, smh
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I like how they have Rand actively realize he is the DR and accept it to spare his friends from the danger of going to the Eye of the World instead of deny what he is. I also like how they're making the Lan and Nynaeve relationship more forward and it feels more organic that they would end up a couple as opposed to the books where it's kinda out of nowhere. still hoping to see that (very minor book detail) sweet rear end signet ring Can't wait till next week heck yes
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The decision to bone down rather than pine means we probably won't get the wedding gown/widows weeds speech from Henney, which I was looking forward to. Making the issue more purely Moiraine rather than Moiraine plus "I am wedded to deaaaaath" is probably better for the limited time and scene's they'll be able to get, I guess.
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lumpentroll posted:she tugged her braid after sex btw It’s quite prominent too, camera really lingers. Also whoever said the Robert Jordan Conan stories were very horny was, if anything, understating the case. They are exceptionally horny. Also he seems to be very consciously imitating Howard’s style.
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Kate Fleetwood is such a grand villainous actor, enjoyed her brief role in Les Mis too.
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I appreciate how the costuming department has had Moraine becoming more disheveled as they travel. It's a nice touch. Especially the contrast to the more ceremonial appearance last episode. Still feels overly rushed on screen though.
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LionArcher posted:A bunch of people in here really don't get sword/spear fighting combat! more cringe than the excellent fight scene. I also don't think the (I'm assuming here) dudes get how dope it is to watch a woman who's pregnant kicking so much rear end. Twitter is going nuts over that scene. Spear fighting does not involve sprinting forward then limboing under lateral swings in order to spin around, or catching an opponent's weapon on yours and somehow using that to completely spin your opponent off their feet, defeating them completely. At one point two armed men were right behind her and she was looking away from them toward the camera, and they just ran away instead of just easily killing her. It just blows my mind that with 9 figures, this show can't hire someone to make the fight scenes both fun to watch and somewhat based in reality. There's a continuum between anime bullshit fighting and boring, hyper realistic. This is definitely more toward the former. Agree to disagree but they could do so much better with the mountain of money they have.
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But have you considerd that twirly fight scenes with flippy stab sticks look pretty cool
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it was actually very cool
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BrianWilly posted:But have you considerd that twirly fight scenes with flippy stab sticks look pretty cool 
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I think there's a cost-savings point in striving to make the fight choreography fun for the vast majority of people who aren't sword nerds.
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literally half of wheel of time is anime bullshit
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Yea, I just watched it again to double check. It was rad. Also at no point did two armed men run away from her. She knocked those two down and then went after the 3rd who was backing up.
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I would also like to point out that in a series with literal magic, that having characters that seemingly have supernatural powers due to intense training or thats how Aiels are makes the world more interesting. Talking about how unrealistic something is when theres loving wizards throwing fireballs, a creature made of wind and pocket dimensions that characters can teleport to is really loving funny.
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Spear fighting does not involve sprinting forward then limboing under lateral swings in order to spin around, or catching an opponent's weapon on yours and somehow using that to completely spin your opponent off their feet, defeating them completely. At one point two armed men were right behind her and she was looking away from them toward the camera, and they just ran away instead of just easily killing her. It just blows my mind that with 9 figures, this show can't hire someone to make the fight scenes both fun to watch and somewhat based in reality. There's a continuum between anime bullshit fighting and boring, hyper realistic. This is definitely more toward the former. Agree to disagree but they could do so much better with the mountain of money they have. Friend, you're arguing that the pregnant woman killing 4 guys while having contractions wasn't realistic. Also goons have zero idea how much money it takes to make movies/tv or where it's spent, do they?
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imagine watching a pregnant woman absolutely demolish half a dozen goons in armor with insane short spear moves and then complaining about it
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I think this was probably my favorite episode to date. Ep 1 might be my second favorite, just because I loved how real poo poo got once the Trollocs showed up. Can't help but feel like all the Pegwene stuff is just Perrin "overreacting" to what he heard in the wind, rather than actually wanting to boink Egwene. I both liked and disliked the little recap of Rand doing stuff once it's revealed. I kinda wish they just let the audience pick up on those moments during a re-watch rather than explicitly showing everything, although actually seeing weaves on this showing was a neat addition. Love love love the brief glimpse of Fain during a blast of lightning in the Ways. I need to go back and grab a screen cap of it because it looked so cool. Also love that screenshot floating around of him holding a little trinket by the gate and he has a cool sweater on. And that one screenshot also floating around of him walking out of the gate with his back to the camera. I haven't noticed any of the whistling, but I've spotted him in the background in most of his appearances. I remember a few moments of dialog lacking subtlety, but I can't recall what they were this morning after watching it last night  Before Rand was revealed, at one point when they were in the Ways and the party gets blasted back he looks like he had a harsh white light shining on him Definitely thought the Blight looked kinda dumb; I pictured it like "weird desert with what is growing is all decaying and wrong", not dense rear end forest of dead tree things. Super excited for next Thursday, super mega not excited waiting for Season 2  Bezos you coward, release it now.
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Yeah, like 8 million for an hour of a show isn't a lot, considering even the longest MCU movie is 3 hours long but has a budget that's 45 times as large.
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Yeah, Hawkeye has 2.5 times the per episode budget, and that doesn't require much for special effects or costuming. And if you look at most of the top shows from Netflix/Disney+, you are going to notice their budgets exceed WoT's.
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It thought the pregnant fight scene was fun but it was definitely in the dance choreography category where all parties clearly are carefully timing their moves with the rest of the group. I’m not a spear/sword expert but feel like standing there executing artful flourishes while waiting for your opponent to finish stabbing your buddy and turn towards you is not sound tactics.
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The fight sequence was pretty standard for "cinematic" choreography, which means it was dumb and bad by any realistic point of view, but ok for what it was, especially in a show where you have to assume a level of disconnect between what's being shown and what they would show if they were given a magic wand. Anyone fighting 3-4 opponents at once is going to look bad unless the show is starring a martial artist of the caliber of Iko Uwais or unless the fight choreographer is on level with something like John Wick...Which is probably out of the scope for a series unless it's something like Warrior where martial arts are core to the show itself. That said, I think the episode overall was kinda meh. Ep6 seems so far a good measure above the rest of the show; the show itself is enjoyable enough that I'm definitely going to keep watching it, but it also seems a bit bland (aside for the inspired choices for the non-standard, non european medieval fantasy clothes and architecture and the general cast diversity, which are definitely different from the average). That Italian Guy fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Spear fighting does not involve sprinting forward then limboing under lateral swings in order to spin around, or catching an opponent's weapon on yours and somehow using that to completely spin your opponent off their feet, defeating them completely. At one point two armed men were right behind her and she was looking away from them toward the camera, and they just ran away instead of just easily killing her. It just blows my mind that with 9 figures, this show can't hire someone to make the fight scenes both fun to watch and somewhat based in reality. There's a continuum between anime bullshit fighting and boring, hyper realistic. This is definitely more toward the former. Agree to disagree but they could do so much better with the mountain of money they have. (Can we make this dude’s screaming face an emoticon for the forums? )  Edit: Re: Pegwene. There have been subtle hints in nearly every episode, it very much did not come out of nowhere. And I'd say they've actually executed it well. Even if I disagree with it's addition to the story. th3t00t fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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BrianWilly posted:But have you considerd that twirly fight scenes with flippy stab sticks look pretty cool It didn't though, it was cringe as gently caress
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nine-gear crow posted:I mean I’ve spent like 15 years hearing about how dumb and bad the books were, so I’ve actually been rather surprised by the show’s quality such as it is so far. I'm just curious, what circle of book reading are you are told that the wheel of time is bad?
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Who has the time to watch incels complain for 3 hours about a 1 hour long episode about a show they claim to hate?
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RC Cola posted:Who has the time to watch incels complain for 3 hours about a 1 hour long episode of a show they claim to hate?
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His Divine Shadow posted:It didn't though, it was cringe as gently caress I didn't see any of your posts in it though
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*cinemasins voice* if you look closely, you can see that the person going into labor is killing multiple people. this is not realistic and is in fact cringe and fail
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