Rime posted:

The Wisest Moron posted:

That's genuinely probably the best you can do. This thread is not going to help you at all. Maybe limit yourself to only checking in every couple of weeks?

As for your executive disfunction, finding a way to tackle that is probably going to pay the greatest dividends for your mental health. Feeling comfortable and in control of your living space is going to form the backbone of your mental health. There are strategies for dealing with it that don't involve medication but do require practicing self discipline. Making yourself a schedule, keeping to do lists, and writing in a journal will all help. The ADHD community will have tons of specific strategies that don't involve medication.

In terms of alienating friends and family by being a Cassandra, well this is tough. I think people have all kinds of motivations for this but at least for myself the big two are ethical obligation and needing to be right. If you feel the need to repeatedly try to convince people of the coming doom because you have an ethical obligation to warn of impending danger you should try to internalize the idea that you are not obligated to convince anyone of anything. The information is all out there, people have every opportunity in the world to actually educate themselves. The problem isn't that they don't know, the problem is that they don't want to know. By all means be honest about your opinion if it comes up organically, but there is nothing to be gained by forcing the issue and again you are not obligated to do so. As for needing to be proven correct, well that one is tough and I'm still working on it but I think the key lies in building your self esteem up in other areas of you life and relationship. You have value outside of your knowledge. Work on finding and developing that.

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According to a 2019 report in Nature, the vast zone of frozen earth that covers about a quarter of the Northern Hemisphere is a sprawling storehouse for about 1.6 trillion metric tons of carbon — twice the amount already in the atmosphere. Current models “assume that permafrost thaws gradually from the surface downwards,” slowly releasing methane and carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. But frozen soil also “physically holds the landscape together” and so its thawing can rip the surface open erratically, exposing ever-larger areas to the sun.

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To add a dangerous wild card to such an already staggering panorama of potential destruction, about 700,000 square miles of Siberia also contain a form of methane-rich permafrost called yedoma, which forms a layer of ice 30 to 260 feet deep. As rising temperatures melt that icy permafrost, expanding lakes (which now cover 30% of Siberia) will serve as even greater conduits for the release of such methane, which will bubble up from their melting bottoms to escape into the atmosphere.

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Bubble clouds are rising from a depth of around 300 metres along a large undersea slope, Air concentrations of 16-32 ppm.

Rime posted:

I continue to believe and act as if I will be going back to work this summer, happily building more turbines, but deep inside I have a strong sense of finality about things. We'll see.

splifyphus posted:

oh c'mon man. if it's too late to give a poo poo about anything, it's way too loving late to censor ourselves for the capitalist big other. what do you have to lose?

Tempora Mutantur posted:

dumb question: why do you think these effects are going to be felt in the next year instead of like, 5-10-20 years?

Rime posted:

From killer heatwaves to floods, climate change worsened weather extremes in 2021

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Extreme weather events in 2021 shattered records around the globe. Hundreds died in storms and heatwaves. Farmers struggled with drought, and in some cases with locust plagues. Wildfires set new records for carbon emissions, while swallowing forests, towns and homes.
Many of these events were exacerbated by climate change. Scientists say there are more to come – and worse – as the Earth's atmosphere continues to warm through the next decade and beyond.

Here are some of the events Reuters witnessed over the past year: 


February — A blistering cold spell hit normally warm Texas, killing 125 people in the state and leaving millions without power in freezing temperatures.

Scientists have not reached a conclusion on whether climate change caused the extreme weather, but the warming of the Arctic is causing more unpredictable weather around the globe.

February — Kenya and other parts of East Africa battled some of the worst locust plagues in decades, with the insects destroying crops and grazing grounds. Scientists say that unusual weather patterns exacerbated by climate change created ideal conditions for insects to thrive.

March — Beijing's sky turned orange and flights were grounded during the Chinese capital's worst sandstorm in a decade.

Busloads of volunteers arrive in the desert each year to plant trees, which can stabilize the soil and serve as a wind buffer. Scientists predict climate change will worsen desertification, as hotter summers and drier winters reduce moisture levels.

June — Nearly all of the western United States was gripped by a drought that emerged in early 2020. Farmers abandoned crops, officials announced emergency measures, and the Hoover Dam reservoir hit an all-time low.

By September, the U.S. government confirmed that over the prior 20 months, the Southwest experienced the lowest precipitation in over a century, and it linked the drought to climate change.

June — Hundreds died during a record-smashing heatwave in the U.S. and Canadian Pacific Northwest, which scientists concluded would have been "virtually impossible" without climate change.

Over several days, power lines melted and roads buckled. Cities, struggling to cope with the heat, opened cooling centers to protect their residents. During the heatwave, Portland, Oregon, hit an all-time record high of 116 Fahrenheit (46.7 Celsius). Lytton BC, 800km to the North, hit 50c.

July — Catastrophic flooding killed more than 300 people in central China's Henan province when a year's worth of rain fell in just three days.

Meanwhile in Europe, nearly 200 people died as torrential rains soaked Germany, Belgium and the Netherlands. Scientists concluded that climate change had made the floods 20% more likely to occur.

July — A record heatwave and drought in the U.S. West gave rise to two massive wildfires that tore through California and Oregon and were among the largest in the history of both states.

Scientists say both the growing frequency and the intensity of wildfires are largely attributable to prolonged drought and increasing bouts of excessive heat from climate change.

July — Large parts of South America are suffering from a prolonged drought. While Chile is enduring a decade-long megadrought linked to global warming, this year Brazil saw one of its driest years in a century.

In Argentina, the Parana, South America's second-longest river, fell to its lowest level since 1944.

Around the globe, heatwaves are becoming both more frequent and more severe.

August — In the Mediterranean, a hot and dry summer fanned intense blazes that forced thousands of people to evacuate their homes in Algeria, Greece and Turkey.

The fires, which killed two people in Greece and at least 65 in Algeria, struck amid an intense heatwave, with some places in Greece recording temperatures of over 46 Celsius (115 Fahrenheit).

Late August — Nearly all the world's mountain glaciers are retreating due to global warming. In the Alps, Swiss resort employees laid protective blankets over one of Mount Titlis's glaciers during the summer months to preserve what ice is left.

Switzerland already has lost 500 of its glaciers, and could lose 90% of the 1,500 that remain by the end of the century if global emissions continue to rise, the government said.

August/September — Hurricane Ida, which hit Louisiana as a Category 4 storm, killed nearly 100 people in the United States and caused an estimated $64 billion in damage, according to the NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information.

As the remnants of Ida moved inland, the heavy rains created flash flooding across the densely populated Northeast, vastly increasing the storm's death toll.

Climate change is strengthening hurricanes, while also causing them to linger longer over land – dumping more rain on an area before moving on. Studies also suggest these storms are becoming more frequent in the North Atlantic.

September — Infrastructure and homes in Russia are increasingly in peril as underground permafrost melts and deforms the land underneath them.

Permafrost was once a stable construction base, in some regions staying frozen as far back as the last Ice Age. But rising global temperatures threaten the layer of ice, soil, rocks, sand and organic matter.

November — The worst floods in 60 years in South Sudan have affected about 780,000 people, or one in every 14 residents, according to the U.N. refugee agency. Every year the county goes through a rainy season, but flooding has set records for three years in a row. The destruction will likely increase as temperatures rise, scientists say.

November — A massive storm dumped a month's worth of rain over two days in the Canadian province of British Columbia, unleashing floods and mudslides that destroyed roads, railroads and bridges. It is likely the most expensive natural disaster in Canada's history, although officials are still assessing the damage.

Meteorologists said the rain had come from an atmospheric river, or a stream of water vapor stretching hundreds of miles long from the tropics. Atmospheric rivers are expected to become larger — and possibly more destructive — with climate change, scientists say.

Rime posted:

Siberia’s stark warning to Scotland for Cop26: climate change in the planet’s last great wilderness

300 meters was deemed "Impossible " by scientists, as CH4 should dissolve in the water column. Either they were wrong, or this methane is being ejected with considerable force and volume.

I continue to believe and act as if I will be going back to work this summer, happily building more turbines, but deep inside I have a strong sense of finality about things. We'll see.

Basic Poster posted:

I definitely feel the friend and family ostricization from being thread aware.

My interactions started when my sister's wedding occured out doors near a river while literal still burning ash fell all over her white dress and the band refused to play due to smoke inhalation.

I've tried to sit them down one at a time and try and convince them of what is coming as best I can. Trying to be sensitive to the psychological trauma it brings and try to be there to guide them through the process. Also with friends.

Outside of one friend and a cousin, I am widely considered to be a very depressed and disturbed individual. I have an engineering master's. The only person in my family to have any science degree whatsoever. No one can hear it. They thrash and putty me for being part of some doomsday conspiracy theory and it hurts

The reason I would like them to know is that I love them. While nothing can be stopped, there are potential things that can be done in groups to try and soften the blow. Even if that is setting advanced directives or reconsidering ones wishes on how they may want to spend the remaining days or pass on.

I've acquired some land and a home with several additional dwelling units and have nothing left to do but to try and do what I can to be a refuge eventually to my loved ones when it all becomes too much to bare. It's all I can do. Even if they think I'm crazy. It's not their fault. I just I hope I'm strong enough long enough so at least my nieces and nephews have some place they can go that isn't a refugee camp and have a right ng chance at a few extra days of the human experience in relation ve peace, whatever that means to them

Complications posted:

friendly reminder for people who aren't Rime that due to methane's potency an air concentration of 16-32 ppm is equivalent to 400-800 CO2 ppm. Mauna Loa reads about 415ppm now so...

as I recall the really spicy cloud fuckery was due to start at temperatures caused by 800-1200 CO2 ppm equivalent in the atmosphere

wonder what Siberian cloud cover is going to look like in the next couple of years

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Scientists identified half a dozen “mega seeps” and found concentration of atmospheric methane above these fields reaching 16-32ppm (parts per million). This is up to 15 times the planetary average of 1.85ppm.

Complications posted:

wonder what Siberian cloud cover is going to look like in the next couple of years

Basic Poster posted:

I definitely feel the friend and family ostricization from being thread aware.

The Wisest Moron posted:

That's genuinely probably the best you can do. This thread is not going to help you at all. Maybe limit yourself to only checking in every couple of weeks?

As for your executive disfunction, finding a way to tackle that is probably going to pay the greatest dividends for your mental health. Feeling comfortable and in control of your living space is going to form the backbone of your mental health. There are strategies for dealing with it that don't involve medication but do require practicing self discipline. Making yourself a schedule, keeping to do lists, and writing in a journal will all help. The ADHD community will have tons of specific strategies that don't involve medication.

In terms of alienating friends and family by being a Cassandra, well this is tough. I think people have all kinds of motivations for this but at least for myself the big two are ethical obligation and needing to be right. If you feel the need to repeatedly try to convince people of the coming doom because you have an ethical obligation to warn of impending danger you should try to internalize the idea that you are not obligated to convince anyone of anything. The information is all out there, people have every opportunity in the world to actually educate themselves. The problem isn't that they don't know, the problem is that they don't want to know. By all means be honest about your opinion if it comes up organically, but there is nothing to be gained by forcing the issue and again you are not obligated to do so. As for needing to be proven correct, well that one is tough and I'm still working on it but I think the key lies in building your self esteem up in other areas of you life and relationship. You have value outside of your knowledge. Work on finding and developing that.

Basic Poster posted:

My interactions started when my sister's wedding occured out doors near a river while literal still burning ash fell all over her white dress and the band refused to play due to smoke inhalation.

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Like when someone says drat the weather is crazy the correct response is "did you hear about what happened in [x] at [y time] (usually concurrently or yesterday)? What about [x] at [y time]? Haha Yeah everything's going bonkers everywhere lol we are very seriously dead within like a decade and a half lmao." With current weather this is insanely simple to do

Cold on a Cob posted:

"wow crazy weather"

Xaris posted:

i don't like this post, its one of those posts that end up in qcs because it's cringe. is it a copy+paste? it feels like a c/p. now don't take it personally, keep on truckin' n postin'

Homeless Friend posted:

lmfao, the poor bastard who has to clean that poo poo up...

Basic Poster posted:

It was at my parents house, in their seventies. I cleaned it up. Almost alone while the bridal party and guests went to a beach also covered in smoke an ash for the next few days. It felt like meditation and I was happy to do it so my parents didn't.

AceOfFlames posted:

My family keeps asking when I am going to buy a house but I am terrified of getting into debt and nohwere looks safe. I live in Norway now which I have no idea if it's a safe or unsafe place. And I am a foreigner which automatically makes it unsafe I guess. Back home is also going to fall as well. I don't understand how "Just get some land" helps, it's not like everyone on earth can afford it. Enjoying myself is all i have left. I just wish at least everyone was on the same page so i didn't feel so alone.

Basic Poster posted:

Hey Xaris. I feel like I've been ready ng your posts for 15 years and I always appreciate what you have the say. This isn't copy paste. Just me.

God Hole posted:

get a dog, thread. the shelters are full. if you've been wondering lately whether you have the time or the resources to nurture life better than a shelter, the answer is yes. you can have a little buddy to run away from the hypernadoes with. a loyal friendo who will guard your stronghold when you're off administering karmic retribution against [REDACTED] in minecraft

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Villagers told the outlet the killings started about a month ago when a few dogs killed an infant monkey and since then, the moment a dog is spotted, simians are apparently snatching up the pups and dragging them somewhere high to drop them to their deaths.

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Nearly all of the pups in the Beed district have been killed, but the monkeys still haven’t stopped and are now targeting small children en route to school, the outlet said.

AceOfFlames posted:

This really helps, thanks! I have started working on the first paragraph. The second is probably the best explanation I have found for this paradox.

splifyphus posted:

This is helpful for me too man, thanks. You're totally right, and I already know that you can't really convince someone of anything if they're not already open to being convinced. To be a correctly interpolated capitalist subject is already be incapable of being swayed by argumentation anyways.

That being said, I'm going full Cassandra, and I just don't give a gently caress what anybody thinks of it. I'm alienating the poo poo out of friends and coworkers, and I've already lost friends because of it - good loving riddance. I just dgaf anymore. It's worth it to me to be open and up front about who I am and what I'm about, if only because it means liberals go way the gently caress out of their way to avoid me.

Making small talk with liberals on liberal terrain is psychic torture anyways. If you don't want to think, feel, or care about anything but yourself, then I give exactly the same amount of fucks about you as you do about anything outside of your self inflicted lobotomy. loving off and leaving me alone is exactly what I want you to do.