Which horse film is your favorite? This poll is closed. |
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Black Beauty | 2 | 1.06% | |
A Talking Pony!?! | 4 | 2.13% | |
Mr. Hands 2x Apple Flavor | 117 | 62.23% | |
War Horse | 11 | 5.85% | |
Mr. Hands | 54 | 28.72% | |
Total: | 188 votes |
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I really feel the prior 2 posts embody the gulf between reasonable prudence and living in unreasonable fear. If you were recovered from COVID and then got double vaccinated, you faced about zero risk going out this summer in Denmark. It would be unreasonable to stay locked down needlessly, bordering on irrational. Mental health issues would be a bigger concern, frankly. Ed: maybe you're American, and assume it's as bad everywhere else? Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Dec 18, 2021 |
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Wang Commander posted:Those lewys aren't gonna body themselves! Did you know that everything from influenza A to chickenpox virus can cause lewy bodies in nerve cells? It's almost like viruses do damage to your body and being sick is bad for your health. And this is a thing a bunch of people are only learning now about coronavirus because they are obsessively reading about it, not because the concept that viruses cause damage to your body when you become sick is a new idea that is unique to coronavirus. Like you should avoid getting a cold, because getting a cold sucks, and you get sneezy and sick, but you shouldn't worry about a cold because rhinovirus causes cells to release immunosuppressive cytokines as part of their infection to partially evade the immune system and then spin that into colds being a form of AIDS. Going through each biochemical effect of a virus explains why a virus makes you sick, but it's a huge leap to turning each one into some condition you now have. Lewis body dementia isn't 'you have any Lewis bodies anywhere in your brain tissue", it's a condition where you have so overly many your brain tissue is unable to function.
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 17:46 |
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Covid creates a lot of them and the plan for covid is "we all get it several times a year". It's not insane to think that could add up to "overly many" over time. We've seen young healthy people get Parkinson's within a year of getting this, no one should want a repeat of the loving sleepy sickness just so we can mindlessly consume treats. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 18:17 |
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Wang Commander posted:Covid creates a lot of them and the plan for covid is "we all get it several times a year". It's not insane to think that could add up to "overly many" over time. We've seen young healthy people get Parkinson's within a year of getting this, no one should want a repeat of the loving sleepy sickness just so we can mindlessly consume treats. it's true, I always text my group of friends, "anyone want to mindlessly eat some treats with me?"
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 18:33 |
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UCS Hellmaker posted:Your trying to say it's more infectious then measles, one of the true airborne diseases that spreads so fast and openly that before.vaccines being in the same vicinity of where a patient had it caused infection Look at this idiot: https://twitter.com/NY1/status/1472...genumber%3D2979
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 18:36 |
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Wang Commander posted:Covid creates a lot of them and the plan for covid is "we all get it several times a year". It's not insane to think that could add up to "overly many" over time. We've seen young healthy people get Parkinson's within a year of getting this, no one should want a repeat of the loving sleepy sickness just so we can mindlessly consume treats. 3 people were found to have parkinsons like illness after covid, maybe related to their infection. Out of the billion people that have had coronavirus. Finding some one in a million rare thing and pretending it's common is the same logic that has people scrolling endlessly through twitter doing the math that the covid vaccine has lead to 10 deaths (out of 5 billion doses given) and then mentally spinning out of control that if they have to get vaccines yearly that means that they need to sell their unvaxxed sperm because all the heart damage will accumulate and kill them. Rhinovirus infects T-cells in the nose, if you get several colds a year every year do you eventually come down with AIDS?
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 18:41 |
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Wang Commander posted:Covid creates a lot of them and the plan for covid is "we all get it several times a year". It's not insane to think that could add up to "overly many" over time. We've seen young healthy people get Parkinson's within a year of getting this, no one should want a repeat of the loving sleepy sickness just so we can mindlessly consume treats. You got a source for your claim about young people "getting Parkinson's"? https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/is-there-a-link-between-covid-19-and-parkinsons-disease#Parkinsons-like-symptoms-in-COVID-19 So three people exhibited Parkinson's-like symptoms. Two responded to medication and the third got better untreated. They didn't "get Parkinson's". "Two men, aged 45 and 58 years, and one woman, aged 35 years, reported slowness of movement accompanied by muscle stiffness, muscle spasms, irregular eye movement, and tremor. All three showed reduced function of the brain’s dopamine pathway system on imaging tests. Two of the three responded positively to medication and one recovered spontaneously." What source are *you* relying on? Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Dec 18, 2021 |
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Judakel posted:Look at this idiot: Measles is an airborne virus, and it's radically different then covid, which is highly known. Stop trying to post gotcha bullshit
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 20:06 |
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'Long Covid' is definitely a thing but as someone mentioned, it seems to really gently caress up unvaccinated people a lot more while being fairly rare in vaccinated people. Also viruses are generally just lovely
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Alctel posted:'Long Covid' is definitely a thing but as someone mentioned, it seems to really gently caress up unvaccinated people a lot more while being fairly rare in vaccinated people. Do you have a citation for this?
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 20:09 |
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Wang Commander posted:We've seen young healthy people get Parkinson's within a year of getting this I have, in fact, not seen this
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 20:12 |
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Seriously, what the gently caress.
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 20:13 |
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hey guys, if you search "penis loss streptococcus infection" you can find multiple cases. my research shows the average person has hundreds of streptococcus bacteria on every square inch of their body. If every bacteria only has a .0001% chance of developing into penis fall off then by my math that means that within an hour you have nearly a hundred percent chance of losing your penis. This is how medical research works, right?
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 20:15 |
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This is the kind of poo poo that takes so little effort to drop onto the thread, that people are supposed to spend their effort to rebut every time
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 20:19 |
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That and the covid causes diabetes!!! It's the steroids making people's glucose levels go nuts that is common treatment. Their insulin stabilizes once the steroids get tapered down.
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 20:22 |
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/18/omicron-variant-denmark/quote:Highly vaccinated countries thought they were over the worst. Denmark says the pandemic’s toughest month is just beginning. This is very bad.
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 20:27 |
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UCS Hellmaker posted:Measles is an airborne virus, So is SARS-COV-2
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 20:35 |
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I don't think it's a good idea to intentionally catch Omicron, even if you saw some tweets that called it mild.
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 20:38 |
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brugroffil posted:So is SARS-COV-2 It's literally not. This is that thing where a layman use of a word is different than a formal definition in some field and people think the dumb scientists are just stupid and getting it wrong. Like go call something negative reinforcement in front of a behavioral psychologist or "likelyhood" in front of a statistician if you want to have the same sort of endless fight where you declare you are right because they won't agree something you are calling that is the same thing they are using the word for.
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 20:42 |
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smoobles posted:I don't think it's a good idea to intentionally catch Omicron, even if you saw some tweets that called it mild. Nobody here is advocating that.
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 20:42 |
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Suzera posted:To be clear if you're referencing what I said, when I said earlier that something seemed reasonable, I didn't mean it's correct as much as I meant it doesn't seem to run counter to other things I know about (or at least hangs in the contextual framework it is used in) and the logic seemed valid enough to me so I had no counterargument to add. I added the disclaimer about not knowing enough about virology beforehand for a reason, with the implication being I could not make a good soundness judgement on the plausibility of sars-cov-2 evolving to a more nasal infection. That was intended to be a soft discussion closer on that subbranch. I also doubt I'll get enough expertise anytime soon to render any confidence of soundness judgement on that particular either. Viral genetic stuff seems a lot more opaque to me than even the grittier antibody stuff. No I don't recall your post, mine was more toward several peoiple making sweeping generalizations about SARS-CoV-2 evolution (in both directions!). I just grabbed three papers mostly at random to try to make the point there's a tremendous amount of complexity involved in viral evolution and that complexity was not part of the earlier conversations itt.
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 20:45 |
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Wang Commander posted:Do you have a citation for this? https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00460-6/fulltext If you are vaccinated and get a breakthrough infection that is serious and symptomatic (which by itself is a lot less likely to happen if you are vaccinated) then you still have half the chance of getting long covid than a vaccinated person and even then it's less serious I'm not saying go and start spitting in each others mouths or anything but at this point if you are double or treble vaxxed, under 60 and otherwise healthy your chance of getting long covid is really small
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 20:46 |
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:It's literally not. https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronvirus-covid-airborne-public-health-agencies/amp https://ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/pressrelease/covid-gets-airborne https://covid19.nj.gov/faqs/coronavirus-information/about-the-virus/is-the-coronavirus-airborne You can be pedantic about what particle size is the cutoff for airborne transmission, or you can just admit that it spreads through the air (as well as droplets)
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 20:49 |
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Wang Commander posted:Covid creates a lot of them and the plan for covid is "we all get it several times a year". It's not insane to think that could add up to "overly many" over time. We've seen young healthy people get Parkinson's within a year of getting this, no one should want a repeat of the loving sleepy sickness just so we can mindlessly consume treats. plz use the technical term 'bon bons'
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 20:59 |
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:It's literally not. The WHO and CDC literally recognized it as airborne in the spring. Bit ridiculous it took them that long to admit it, but they did. They finally listened to the experts who had been saying for over a year it was airborne. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sciencenews.org/article/coronvirus-covid-airborne-public-health-agencies/amp nexous posted:https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronvirus-covid-airborne-public-health-agencies/amp the fishmechs of the world could argue about what specific point on the particle size continuum we were on for a while, but it's been Officially Recognized as being spread by aerosoles (sub 50 microns) for a while. Now they're just wrong if they continue to insist otherwise. brugroffil fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Dec 18, 2021 |
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brugroffil posted:So is SARS-COV-2 Droplet, well docemented proven and it's not something that can switch to an airborne style of infection. It's a whole different classification and standards. Think tb and measles as the big old boys here.
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 21:31 |
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UCS Hellmaker posted:Droplet, well docemented proven and it's not something that can switch to an airborne style of infection. It's a whole different classification and standards. Think tb and measles as the big old boys here. “Switch to”?
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 21:34 |
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UCS Hellmaker posted:Measles is an airborne virus, and it's radically different then covid, which is highly known. Stop trying to post gotcha bullshit Covid is airborne, though. UCS Hellmaker posted:Droplet, well docemented proven and it's not something that can switch to an airborne style of infection. It's a whole different classification and standards. Think tb and measles as the big old boys here. https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronvirus-covid-airborne-public-health-agencies Judakel fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Dec 18, 2021 |
# ? Dec 18, 2021 21:37 |
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UCS Hellmaker posted:Droplet, well docemented proven and it's not something that can switch to an airborne style of infection. It's a whole different classification and standards. Think tb and measles as the big old boys here. It has been officially recognized as spread by aerosol since this spring. It is airborne.
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 21:48 |
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If it wasn’t airborne, cloth masks would actually be useful
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 21:49 |
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UCS Hellmaker posted:Droplet, well docemented proven and it's not something that can switch to an airborne style of infection. It's a whole different classification and standards. Think tb and measles as the big old boys here. Ballistic droplets going under doors and through vents? Lingering in the air of a restaurant to infect dozens for hours? Your position is that covid works like throwing a ping pong ball at something and all I can say is drat you got one hell of a spin on that virus.
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 21:55 |
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Wang Commander posted:Covid creates a lot of them and the plan for covid is "we all get it several times a year". It's not insane to think that could add up to "overly many" over time. We've seen young healthy people get Parkinson's within a year of getting this, no one should want a repeat of the loving sleepy sickness just so we can mindlessly consume treats. Oh word? That's crazy
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 21:55 |
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As I've understood it, it's one of those situations where clinically the distinction is quite large, but in practical terms it is entirely meaningless. I'm no safer with a sick co-worker near me if they have something airborne versus something that travels via droplets that just so happen to fly through the air very well because they can be very small indeed. I'm personally of the opinion that the distinction was used early on to give people a false sense of safety
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 22:05 |
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COVID was considered to be "droplet-based" instead of airborne early on because the CDC misinterpreted a study in 1962 https://www.wired.com/story/the-teeny-tiny-scientific-screwup-that-helped-covid-kill/
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 22:12 |
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:hey guys, if you search "penis loss streptococcus infection" you can find multiple cases. Not sure I'm going to trust someone that can't read an FDA advisory page correctly to explain how medical research works.
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 22:25 |
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UCS Hellmaker posted:Droplet, well docemented proven and it's not something that can switch to an airborne style of infection. It's a whole different classification and standards. Think tb and measles as the big old boys here. Good job regurgitating half century old research instead of any of the wide body of aerosol studies that have been done in the past year.
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 22:30 |
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:It's literally not. Airborne vs aerosol vs droplet doesnt really matter - the miasma theory was always correct and should never have been erroneously discredited
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 22:37 |
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mastershakeman posted:Airborne vs aerosol vs droplet doesnt really matter - the miasma theory was always correct and should never have been erroneously discredited actually all disease is called by the coronavirus.
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 22:57 |
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:actually all disease is called by the coronavirus. Do you have a peer reviewed paper to back this up?
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 23:12 |
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Hellblazer187 posted:Yeah, I'm with you guys on the self imposed lockdown. I've been essentially nowhere except the grocery store or the vet since March 2020. I am mentally totally loving fried. I am allowed to go do things like BJJ class or go to restaurants but I still refuse because it's unsafe. And people treat you like you have three heads. No loving poo poo. You know there are other things you can do besides pressing your heaving face and body against another heavily breathing and sweating man, right? Also you can, like, eat outside? Have a picnic? You don't have to live like a medieval monk in a state of permanent flagellation. People treat you like you have three heads because your risk assessment is insane.
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# ? Dec 18, 2021 23:17 |