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TK_Nyarlathotep posted:Trad Games Chat: i didnt peepee! i';m not a little piss boy!!!
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Captain Walker posted:Quick, you have ten minutes to make a character concept for a fantasy RPG. Where do you go to find a portrait? Is there a repository people around here use? Pinterest, no question
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Dec 18, 2021 16:32
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https://twitter.com/elgesugha/status/1471976211379195908
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Dec 19, 2021 03:21
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The weird bit is that it's printed through DTRPG which doesn't sell many bibles, unless they have D&D stats now. So it's whatever printing service THEY use.
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Dec 19, 2021 03:30
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My Lovely Horse posted:I feel like the tone of this thing is extremely in the vein of Bloodborne and I think Bloodborne would have been a lesser game if a slew of beta testers had said "the blood thing is really gross, can't it just be runes or spells?" I don't care about the piss-in-games argument but this is a terrible analogy. This is just a variation of the "Wow, we're allowed to have murder in our D&D game, but not rape/racism/whatever???" Like there are certain things we are more accustomed to seeing in a non-sexual/non-medical context, yeah, shocker. And there are certain things that maybe some groups would find too uncomfortable, gross, personal, or weird for a game because we're not as inured to volcano spurts of pee pee and poo poo in mainstream as we are hyper-violent bloodbaths. In particular reference to Bloodborne, you're just making up a dumbshit scenario for the knee jerk reaction around a slippery slope fantasy. It's a ludicrous thought exercise to go "Oh what if we took the blood out of The Blood Game?" Like wow, the only answer is "Well it wouldn't exist!" then because blood and all the life-giving properties associated with it are what the whole story, setting, and game are built on. Okay yeah sure then let's fantasize about a world where people are too uncomfortable to put guns in Doom. And then we can catastrophize about a world where Mario games don't have mushrooms!! This is all empty what-ifing about nonsense.
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Dec 19, 2021 04:34
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Nuns with Guns posted:I don't care about the piss-in-games argument but this is a terrible analogy. This is just a variation of the "Wow, we're allowed to have murder in our D&D game, but not rape/racism/whatever???" Like there are certain things we are more accustomed to seeing in a non-sexual/non-medical context, yeah, shocker. And there are certain things that maybe some groups would find too uncomfortable, gross, personal, or weird for a game because we're not as inured to volcano spurts of pee pee and poo poo in mainstream as we are hyper-violent bloodbaths. There's a long running problem with nerds in particular refusing to understand reasonable boundaries and appropriate content. Something about Anime Club bringing porn to the library.
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Dec 19, 2021 06:04
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100% this is a characteristic of people with the spectrum. The neurotypicals of this forum seems to be overly judgmental when it comes to people who have an actual problem defining personal boundaries.
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Dec 19, 2021 06:21
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Ghost Leviathan posted:There's a long running problem with nerds in particular refusing to understand reasonable boundaries and appropriate content. Something about Anime Club bringing porn to the library. Yeah like in reference to tabletop RPGs in particular I think there's two branches to this kind of debate. Is there room to maturely handle this sort of thing? Sure, absolutely. This discussion happens in cycles regarding Apocalypse World and its progeny that all have the Special, Sex, and/or Intimacy moves. You get a lot of twitch reflex "Um... what??" reactions from people, but it's there for understandable reasons. There's also understandable reasons for why some games have moved away from them or into more "personal moment" type intimacy moves that don't require actual sex acts to trigger (and the reasoning for those changes aren't anchored to prudery or immaturity, which I've seen some people imply is the root cause of people being uncomfortable with them.) It's useful to talk about whether or not ttrpgs should cover mature, graphic, or gross topics in a mechanical way. There's also player-facing things that should be discussed. Groups should communicate about what they want out of games, what their personal boundaries are, what they don't want to see in a game or would find too uncomfortable to engage with. There should also be ways for people to back out if something they weren't expecting to upset them does. If you're going to bring up Bloodborne in this context, I assume it's pretty clear to most people who have strong hemophobia reactions that the game is not welcoming to them and they do not engage with it. However, it's not clear upfront that there's, say, fairly realistically animated giant spiders in the game, and I've seen a number of people say that really set their arachnophobia off bad. And those are pretty late in the game, so if you've hit them you're already really close to beating it and it'd suck to be derailed by something like that you had no way of expecting. You can turn off a video game or grit your teeth and try to push through, but ttrpgs do have an edge there of GMs who can modify on the fly to fix triggering content, or be aware of it ahead of time and revise it.
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Dec 19, 2021 06:27
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Plutonis posted:100% this is a characteristic of people with the spectrum. The neurotypicals of this forum seems to be overly judgmental when it comes to people who have an actual problem defining personal boundaries. It's really more the problem that broader society very much still has problems with boundaries, consent, and appropriate content, with many rules being unwritten and unspoken, conveniently vague, and based more on hierarchy and obvious cultural imperialism and moral panics. No wonder people on the spectrum are confused when they grew up with role models who lose their poo poo over innocuous things while ignoring blatant problems.
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Dec 19, 2021 06:30
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Since this topic won’t die, there’s actually a great example of urine in a horror movie cause I rewatched it last week. In the remake of Suspiria : It’s a period piece about a troupe of modern dancers in Berlin who are actually witches, and the dancing is nicely integrated as being kind of the medium for spell-casting. A dancer, Olga, is leaving because of of creepy plot reasons, and the new ingenue dancer is practicing a routine involving violent, jerking motions. As she continues to dance it cuts back to Olga in another part of the studio who is being slammed into the walls as her body is twisted into increasingly broken, painful ways in a magical reflection of the dance. Towards the end, Olga is standing as a warped, unrecognizable mess of twisted bones barely contained in taut skin and torn movement clothes that can just stay upright and there’s puddles of blood and her own urine cause she’s unable to control her body or bowels. It’s loving terrifying and doesn’t make you go “hur hur it’s pee pee” because it’s actually part of the story and not just a childish addition that takes you out and makes you wonder who the gently caress edited this let alone wrote it.
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Dec 19, 2021 06:32
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Xiahou Dun posted:Since this topic won’t die, there’s actually a great example of urine Like I said, I don't give a crap about the piss poo poo, specifically, or the game it's in. I'm not surprised at people reflexively being suspicious of something like that in a tabletop RPG, which have an atrocious record of handling horror involving bodily fluids well, on top of a plethora of other topics. I don't see a reason to debate on it beyond talking with your gaming group about if they'd want to see something like that, and respecting if anyone says "no" for any reason.
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Dec 19, 2021 06:51
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Yes, I was bringing it up to point out that a specific bodily fluid was not at issue, but how it was handled.
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Dec 19, 2021 07:00
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Plutonis posted:The neurotypicals of this forum The null set
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Dec 19, 2021 08:20
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Xiahou Dun posted:Yes, I was bringing it up to point out that a specific bodily fluid was not at issue, but how it was handled. But you also refused to look at the text in question to see how it was handled, so you're really not able to make a good judgment about whether Lair is any better or worse about it than Suspiria is. You kinda got yourself stuck in a pit there, friendo.
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Dec 19, 2021 09:50
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I’m not reading your stupid piss adventure, you weirdo. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 19, 2021 09:57
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Xiahou Dun posted:I’m not reading your stupid piss adventure, you weirdo. I think this was unwarranted. I frankly don't care whether you read Lair of the Lamb or not, but it is relevant to point out that you are trying to make critical arguments about the topic without ever reading the original text at hand. I've seen you posting long enough that I know you know better than to do that.
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Dec 19, 2021 10:00
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this tangent will surely go down in pisstory
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Dec 19, 2021 11:42
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Can we please find something else to talk about than the piss adventure? For example: I'm assuming that I'm not the only one here with a List of games that I want to get to the table sooner or later. (Still haven't managed to convince a group to play Nobilis, boooo.) What's on yours?
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Dec 19, 2021 13:02
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potatocubed posted:Can we please find something else to talk about than the piss adventure? I've gotten real lazy with RPGs so getting a short version of the rules to whatever game and some premade adventuring is very enticing. Siivola fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Dec 19, 2021 |
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Dec 19, 2021 13:18
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potatocubed posted:For example: I'm assuming that I'm not the only one here with a List of games that I want to get to the table sooner or later. (Still haven't managed to convince a group to play Nobilis, boooo.) What's on yours? I keep getting rpgs in hopes that maybe this time I will run them even though I know damned well I'm not gonna run a thing. Stuff in my backlog that I would like to someday try to run (or in the case of MLP, promised my fiancee I'd GM it for her some day), in no particular order: Promethean: The Created Cuticorium Cats of Catthulhu Heart: The City Beneath Electric Bastionland Never Going Home Animal Adventures Monarchies of Mau Raccoon Sky Pirates ohnoimlatetothemcrconcertandihaveanextraticket My Little Pony - Tails of Equestria Defiant Cloud Dungeon Cloud Dungeon 2 ExSpelled Cerebos - The Crystal City Magical Kitties Save the Day Rod, Reel, & Fist Secrets of the Vibrant Isle Scion Maharlika Mimic Madness and a bunch of small d&d 5e/system agnostic adventures/locations/zines I have like Blackvale Keyfish Purryhedrals Duckie Delight Curious Cats of Crumptown I'll read the books and pdfs but I'm never gonna actually play any of this poo poo
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Dec 19, 2021 13:52
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potatocubed posted:Can we please find something else to talk about than the piss adventure? A vast bookshelf of them, but Chuubo's is probably at the top of the list, especially Glass-Maker's Dragon. I occasionally consider doing a PbP recruit, but I feel like Jenna Moran games are a really big ask. My problem is that a lot of my hopeless bucket-list games are things that have a ton of lore and which I can't reasonably expect other people to pick up for my sake -- like World Tree, which is intricate and bizarre and frequently great, but who wants to play an elaborately-worldbuilt furry fantasy game that's also an Ars Magica heartbreaker, and also appears to have no PDFs available anywhere? I should really start with tiny zine things that I can maybe at least give people itch.io links for.
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Dec 19, 2021 15:34
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potatocubed posted:Can we please find something else to talk about than the piss adventure? Mage: the Awakening, Magechat in the WoD thread is not enough to sate me and I must inflict the virus on other people.
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Dec 19, 2021 15:44
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Promethean is great and if you do run it take some time to edit the rules because Jesus they are bloated and poorly organized and a lot of that is the original sin of being in the Storyteller system and a lot is that some rules appear twice in the rulebook but are contradictory. My backlog is utterly depressing in its size, I feel like I'm finding a new systemI want to try more often than I get individual sessions in. A lot are systems that I don't think got enough of a shake the last time I used them - Firebrands being the elephant in the room. Unfortunately I think the rate at which I play RPGs is only going to go down. My primary group is falling from one a week to one a month due to repeat schedule problems and my secondary group lost over half its people to FF14. At least I'm getting in wargaming at a near weekly basis?
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Dec 19, 2021 16:21
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Try to talk your wargame group into branching out to RPGs. I'm sure they'd love, I dunno, Lancer or whatever.
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Dec 19, 2021 16:43
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potatocubed posted:For example: I'm assuming that I'm not the only one here with a List of games that I want to get to the table sooner or later. (Still haven't managed to convince a group to play Nobilis, boooo.) What's on yours? Panic at the Dojo Pathfinder 2E Voidheart Symphony Ironsworn/Starforged Red Markets Worlds Without Number
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Dec 19, 2021 17:17
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Antivehicular posted:A vast bookshelf of them, but Chuubo's is probably at the top of the list, especially Glass-Maker's Dragon. I occasionally consider doing a PbP recruit, but I feel like Jenna Moran games are a really big ask. I ran a bit of GMD once upon a time, but I didn't really get what pastoral roleplaying is supposed to be about. When things worked out, it absolutely sang, but mostly it felt like I was struggling with the system a lot. I keep feeling like PbP is actually a better way to do pastoral stuff because if it comes to it you can just do a post where you narrate your character doing something slice-of-lifey and you're all set.
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Dec 19, 2021 17:20
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I want to play Icon
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Dec 19, 2021 17:45
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Whoever mentioned Lancer, I'd love to try Lancer. I'd like to try Blades in the Dark again; twice I built a Lurk and twice the GM vanished immediately after the first job. In one case, that job was session 0  Night's Black Agents filled a very specific niche for me, where I could live out all my wildest stealth-game fantasies, but the game I was in crashed hard as soon as we got the Dracula Dossier. I'd kinda like to play JC Denton rather than Solid Snake this time.
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Dec 19, 2021 19:37
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A strange wish to run something that isn’t broken and people genuinely enjoy but with no idea what it is. A slight fear that I’m focusing too much on mostly unfulfillable desires as a result of their perceived accessibility through RPGs.
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Dec 19, 2021 20:50
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I'd love to try Lancer or Fellowship when the pandemic ends.
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Dec 19, 2021 20:51
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I want to run a campaign again, but I'm not sure what kind. Either one of the big Call of Cthulhu ones, or start up DCC Lankhmar with a module or two and see where it goes. Unrelated, I am getting more and more of the opinion that I will never be able to get some of what I want out of online games, but unfortunately it'll be years if at all before things are in place for me to feel comfortable to plan anything in person, much less something ongoing.
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Dec 19, 2021 20:53
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PerniciousKnid posted:I'd love to try Lancer or Fellowship when the pandemic ends.
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Dec 19, 2021 20:57
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The only game I play in the newest future is probably Amazing Tales with my kindergartner, honestly. I am looking forward to trying it out though.
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Dec 19, 2021 21:01
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potatocubed posted:Can we please find something else to talk about than the piss adventure? For RPGS: (More) 13th age Atomic Robo (FATE) Lancer (I've heard good things about and I'm pretty sure I have a copy from that justice bundle, but I haven't taken a look at it yet) Fellowship (I backed it on KS and only read some of it and haven't run it yet) Unwritten: Adventures in Myst (FATE) (Also KS backed) For board games: The Crew: Quest for planet nine (Just got it for Christmas a little early) Radlands (Came in a few weeks ago from KS, played 1.5 games) Gaslands (played a little) Star wars: Legion (it's been a long time) Dark Souls: The board game (played once since the KS release) Axis and Allies (Big ol' game in a big ol' box is a big commitment) A new board game shop opened just a few weeks ago in my town, which I hope means I can find people regularly again to play games with.
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Dec 19, 2021 21:04
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Armour Astir: Advent The One Ring 2e Gubat Banwa Hard Wired Island Hearts of Wulin The Sword, the Crown, and the Unspeakable Power Monster Care Squad Voidheart Symphony Something Gumshoe (Mutant City Blues? Night's Black Agents?) Battle Century G again Apocalypse World, because I haven't run it in ages Fellowship Honour & Intrigue
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Dec 19, 2021 22:40
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potatocubed posted:Can we please find something else to talk about than the piss adventure? Whenever I finally finish running my Godbound game, I'm really jonesing to offer to run Mutant Chronicles for my group, the 2d20 implementation seems interesting. Other than that, my to-run list includes Pathfinder 2e, Tenra Bansho Zero, and one of the Fragged games (I have Fragged Empire from a bundle, but IIRC there's more recent / polished iterations of the same engine?). The Full Sicko Mode answer would be having a complete enough version of my own game to run, but work-related burnout cascading into severe executive dysfunction and brain fog has kind of put that on the backburner for now...
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Dec 19, 2021 22:55
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Lemon-Lime posted:Armour Astir: Advent 
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So far I’ve been advertising Ariadne and Bob based on the types of stories it’s made to tell, and that’s been having limited success. I’ve got some backers, but the pace needs to pick up a bit if we’re going to fund. So I thought “what would attract me to this game if I was reading about it?” and the answer is to know how it goes about telling those stories. I want to read games that have cool unique mechanics. If someone does a FitD or PbtA version of some setting that’s cool, but I’m not going to buy it unless I’m really into the setting. But if someone makes a game that solves a design problem in a way I haven’t seen before, that really gets me going. And Ariadne and Bob absolutely does that! So if there are people like me out there, I need to be selling them on THAT! When I’ve shown other designers the game, they’ve been really interested. The game is fertile ground for variants and expansions. Two of the designers I approached to write playsets for the game ended up pitching me on cool variants they want to write. Vel wants to write a variant where an evil genius tags along with a good-doer who somehow never catches on to the genius' evil machinations, but manages to foil their plots through helpfulness and good intentions despite being utterly oblivious. Nick Butler wants to write a variant that expands the role of the 3rd player into more of a nemesis - a Dr. Claw to our Penny and Gadget. I know there are a bunch of indie designers and homebrewers on here who would be interested in fooling around with this game. So here: this is the story of the problems that Ariadne and Bob sets out to solve and the broad strokes of how it solves them. I’m sure some of you have already TLDRed, but I love reading about this sort of design stuff, and I hope that some of you do, too. I am really passionate about this game and I want to get it into people’s hands so I can see all the cool stuff they do with it. I can just picture all the cool hacks and variants and goofy playsets people can make, and I want that to happen. I want to see Vel's and Nick's version of the game, and I want to see yours, too! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1835460386/ariadne-and-bob
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Dec 19, 2021 23:09
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I am running Dungeon Crawl Classics, but I am lucky if I can manage to get one game in every six weeks, and even then half my players won't show up due to work, kids and/or covid. We are maybe a third through Doom of Savage Kings. It's alright. I have a hard time nailing down the tone and setting of the game, and translating names and terms into Norwegian is a major pain. It would be easier if we could game in English, but I need a non-native player present for that to fly. Considering having some calamity kill all the gods and replace clerics with the new luck and healing rules from DCC: Lankhmar. We only have the one cleric, that player never shows up, and having to come up with a lot of religious stuff is not so interesting to me. The gods being dead might also help explain why the players are coming across so many monsters all of a sudden.
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my to play/run list: ryuutama icon I unironically want to play or run spellpunk cyberfight something final fantasy, I need to scratch that anime fight itch
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