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"hey yall let's just draw ourselves out of a congressional seat"  https://twitter.com/Redistrict/stat...ingawful.com%2F
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ex post facho posted:"hey yall let's just draw ourselves out of a congressional seat"
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"A strategy of retreat" has been the democratic party playbook since Reagan.
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The Democrats would be hilarious, if their intransigence hasn't literally got people killed. gently caress them. I hope they can't even get on the ballot for a loving municipal dog catcher.
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any argument about "biden can't cancel student loans" just went out the window because he can simply extend the forbearance until may 1st 2122 like he just did until may 1st 2022.
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:The Democrats would be hilarious, if their intransigence hasn't literally got people killed. seems like a reasonable thing to not want happen what with Pete being hailed as the future of the democrat party 
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Dolphin posted:any argument about "biden can't cancel student loans" just went out the window because he can simply extend the forbearance until may 1st 2122 like he just did until may 1st 2022. well you see, if he keeps extending forbearance every few months he can keep people pissed off at him the entire time, which helps the democrats to get destroyed in 2022
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ex post facho posted:"hey yall let's just draw ourselves out of a congressional seat" i don't like tight gerrymanders, a wave election could wipe everyone out if they're all drawn into a supposed 55-45 district
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Big Mad Drongo posted:Glad to hear that our deep dive even further into legislative disfunction and authoritarianism is at least going to be full of lols. I was worried the GOP still had some modicum of party discipline but I suppose that's focused purely on existing congressmen and not the up-and-coming class of pyschos. The gop has party discipline, they're simply responsive to their electorate. It might get "taken over" by qanon crazies but those crazies still vote and work along lines toward the party project which is a white Christian ethnostate. Anyone who steps out of line is disciplined just fine, look at Liz Cheney. The crazies who have staying power will be assimilated into the party structure just like the tea party before them. The fact is that the gop is a functioning party, for better or for worse, because they are actually trying to do something and are doing it via the political process. They'll survive and continue their work with or without Trump. The fact that they have no opposition to speak of does make them look stronger than they otherwise would, of course. The dems will get destroyed in 2022 (and beyond) mainly because they don't differ from republicans in any way that materially benefits voters and have absolutely no beliefs that aren't negative reflections of republican beliefs (iow all of their positions are just "well if you don't believe what they say about [some culture war bullshit] then you're with us"). They can only get so far being the other option to the gop without actually having anything they want to do.
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There's never going to be a good time to resume student loans. It's going to gently caress over a lot of people whether COVID's a factor or not because it was already so broken. So do you piss off voters right before an election? Right after? In between and hope people forget? Or maybe just wait for Republicans to win again and let them do it. This might be one of the best incentives they've ever had for doing something about student loans though. It's threatening their jobs!
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Nonsense posted:MTG is America only the vintage format
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i wonder what those "college education raises your expected wage" statistics look like when you factor in the average cost of tuition these days
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Vomik posted:only the vintage format
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Dolphin posted:i wonder what those "college education raises your expected wage" statistics look like when you factor in the average cost of tuition these days It's still positive, but that might be the "America's entrenched upper class makes every mean look better than it is" effect
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Spring Break My Heart posted:i looked up the first guy and his platform was all about cutting funds to the military. so he has my full support and will lose by 8 trillion votes. that most timeless of currencies, democratic hopeful campaign promises made by real estate agents
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Dolphin posted:any argument about "biden can't cancel student loans" just went out the window because he can simply extend the forbearance until may 1st 2122 like he just did until may 1st 2022. And why not make minimum wage 30 dollars an hour too, huh smart guy? 
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:the quanon mom is the synthesis of the right wing suburbanite busybody nutjob with an insane conservative worldview and the posthippie yoga juice cleanse girlboss wacko with a totally incomprehensible and reality-divorced personal ethical standpoint the magamilf is an unstoppable force
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Nothus posted:"A strategy of retreat" has been the democratic party playbook since Reagan.
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Let's go, Brandon.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:A strategy leading to defeat is one thing. Shifting your focus from "inevitable final triumph due to demographics" to "inevitable defeat due to irrational voters who don't realize that they're supposed to vote for the good guys" is something quite different. I mean, in both cases the thing they're actively doing is not doing anything for the people they want to get votes from, in one case they just assume the votes will keep coming, in the other they realize they won't. It's not so much that voters won't vote for the good guys, it's the ethos that democratic values are inherently in the minority, so fighting for (or even promising) expansion is pointless and all you can do is try to hold on to the status quo as long as possible before the inevitable defeat.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:New spin just dropped: whoa so you mean the Biden administration could generate infinity billion dollars in relief by pausing it forever?
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Imagine stabbing someone but leaving the knife in so they don't bleed out. That's the kind of "relief" we're talking about.
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cancelling debt is probably irreversible, but a pause can be capriciously undone whenever a Republican gets back in the White House, so naturally that's what the Dems choose
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vyelkin posted:cancelling debt is probably irreversible, but a pause can be capriciously undone whenever a Republican gets back in the White House, so naturally that's what the Dems choose Having a sword of Damocles dangling over young voters heads is a great strategy until a republican unilaterally repeals it and then drat you lost a generation of voters
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Having a sword of Damocles dangling over young voters heads is a great strategy until a republican unilaterally repeals it and then drat you lost a generation of voters throwing a crybaby tantrum over acts taken by a republican that they helped get elected while promising gently caress you and eat poo poo worked for them in 2020 so why wouldn't they try it again
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Well even worse, what if instead that republican clears the debt in 2025 somebody is gonna convince Trump to pass universal healthcare because he can call it Trumpcare and everyone will love it and forget about Obamacare and then the Republicans will run the country until the heat death of human civilization
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Trumpist-Strasserist Hell State, folks, you love to see it.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Well even worse, what if instead that republican clears the debt I’ll have a good night of drinking if that happens. Seeing the democrats fully outflanked. vyelkin posted:in 2025 somebody is gonna convince Trump to pass universal healthcare because he can call it Trumpcare and everyone will love it and forget about Obamacare and then the Republicans will run the country until the heat death of human civilization I actually would have a good laugh if he passes the Total Realization of United Medical Protection Act. Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 20:34 on Dec 23, 2021 |
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Crowsbeak posted:I’ll have a good night of drinking if that happens. Seeing the democrats fully outflanked. Just a chorus of libs shouting "but how will we pay for it"
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vyelkin posted:in 2025 somebody is gonna convince Trump to pass universal healthcare because he can call it Trumpcare and everyone will love it and forget about Obamacare and then the Republicans will run the country until the heat death of human civilization The thing about Trump is that he could make higher wages, UHC, unions, and Zero-Covid MAGA projects, and I think his base would go for it. I don’t think he will, but he really could be Huey Long if he wanted to.
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