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euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

lamo police power is inherent to any local government

maybe the state of Illinois hosed around with Chicago’s power idk

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WarEternal
Dec 26, 2010

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Goobish posted:

Do we just forget about the whole asymptomatic and incubation period thing every single wave? I thought I had a bad memory but gently caress even I can remember my community being ravaged by a wave of covid last month lol

The majority of people never learned this in the first place because the majority of adults are completely incapable of learning anything new.

jinx_player
Aug 25, 2018

Why Am I So Tired posted:

Wife's coworker is really worried about COVID you guys, but anyway, she flew to Florida this morning but it's ok because she's quarantining at her parents' house for two weeks, but it won't be so bad because a bunch of people are coming over for a party this weekend.

At least she will not be lonley.

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

Zugzwang posted:

hello, is this the thread for people who are dismayed at
1. The current situation
2. The fact that telling the truth about (1) makes you sound like a crazy person
?

That contact tracing paper gathered its data in early 2021, before even Delta. lol

yeah welcome to hell. everyone is insane and a million people are going to die this winter. don’t get hurt because the hospitals are going to collapse. when this all inevitably happens everyone is going to pretend there was no possible way to see this coming.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

lamo at people demanding citations to a governments authority to stop a plague

FunkyFjord
Jul 18, 2004



Death By The Blues posted:

So which state will officially lose 1 percent of their population first?

please let it be mine, no one needs oklahoma

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Clocks posted:

I accompanied my mom to the mall a few days ago because she wanted to return some poo poo. I'd gauge about 40% of people weren't wearing a mask at all, and almost all the people who were were using cloth/surgicals. I was losing hope when I saw like 3 people wearing n95-style masks. Northern NJ here.

It's honestly criminal that we haven't sent everyone a box of n95s yet, and probably never will. I think there is a subset of people who are legitimately well-meaning but just don't know better. And there is another subset of people who just does what everyone else does. If everyone was wearing their government N95s, they would be too. But when there's a bunch of people going unmasked, well, they do that instead.

the proportion of people who just go with the flow is easily a majority of the population. here in bay area california everyone still wears a mask indoors and nobody really complains. a lot of old people will not cover their nose but we all know old people just tend to do things wrong and ignore directions in general so i give them credit for at least trying.

U-DO Burger
Nov 12, 2007




Glumwheels posted:

The PNW is also heading towards a nasty cold snap with temps in the teens. The last time we had ice storms like this people lost power for days and some for weeks. It was a loving nightmare and transportation was hosed because they don’t have the infrastructure for these situations.

Which means more hospitalizations from people slipping on ice, car accidents, etc.

i am moving from seattle to portland next week lol

WarEternal
Dec 26, 2010

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Glumwheels posted:

Just wait for New Years, it’s going to be lit. No one will be careful, the bars and restaurants will be full. People will be having raging house parties etc. No one loving cares anymore and they also think, falsely, that vaccines will save them even if boosted.

The idiots like Max and Glenn are trying to be edgelords who challenge authority so they’re going to say and report on the opposite of whatever the government is pushing (even when the info they push is already weak and wrong). So they elevate idiots like Jay and Martin or Monica, basically anyone who challenges mask and vaccine mandates.

I’m so done with this, I hope it all collapses on their heads.

My only fear of dying of covid at this point is fear of not living to see a lot of loving people eat crow, but someone from here will still be alive to see it so that gives me comfort.

Loucks
May 21, 2007

It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.

smoobles posted:

lol I hosed up and used my insurance info for my illicit booster over the summer, now it's showing up in my medical records and I'm going to have to explain to my primary doctor that I am a booster bandit

Have you considered telling yourself "My doctor works for me, and if they have a problem with it I'll fire their rear end and get another doctor?" Works for me.

meet girls at the store
Nov 4, 2002

Loucks posted:

Have you considered telling yourself "My doctor works for me, and if they have a problem with it I'll fire their rear end and get another doctor?" Works for me.

laughs in medical desert

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

OK I'll finally ask, wtf is the "Great Barrington Declaration"? I'll take my answer off the air, thanks.

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme

Stereotype posted:

yeah welcome to hell. everyone is insane and a million people are going to die this winter. don’t get hurt because the hospitals are going to collapse. when this all inevitably happens everyone is going to pretend there was no possible way to see this coming.
yeah my dad had to go to the hospital last week for a chronic illness-related thing. He sat on a hospital bed for 2 days in a hallway before he could get a room. He’ll be in outpatient care for like another week. Also my mom is immunosuppressed. It rules.

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable

euphronius posted:

lamo at people demanding citations to a governments authority to stop a plague

I dunno I think it owns that people are so loving stupid and ignorant that they demand any government action be codified exactly in the constitution or else it is tyrannical overreach of power. Makes sense to me to obliterate the elastic response ability of government agencies to respond to an unforseen emergency.

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster
haha wow thank goodness school is over for the year and I don't need to think about things like this ever again

https://twitter.com/dlberes/status/1473657874027098127?t=dnw_7jgnoS-6Vlauc4nxHQ&s=19

Loucks
May 21, 2007

It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.

meet girls at the store posted:

laughs in medical desert

Oh

I'm incredibly privileged I guess. As far as medical care goes around here I've got options galore.

I did stop going to the insane Russian doc who always offered to write for pills when my back was bothering me. Too tempting.

e: I'm gonna tell my doc I had four shots just to see how she responds .gently caress it.

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000


Ultra Carp

THE DEMOCRATS!!!

Glumwheels
Jan 25, 2003

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ

WarEternal posted:

My only fear of dying of covid at this point is fear of not living to see a lot of loving people eat crow, but someone from here will still be alive to see it so that gives me comfort.

My fear is those people, like some family I have who are constantly eating out and going to see movies, will get COVID eventually and then not have any symptoms and say “see it’s fine” smugly. These are the same ones telling everyone it’s low risk to eat in restaurants, it’s low risk for kids to get sick, etc.


U-DO Burger posted:

i am moving from seattle to portland next week lol

Yeah I wouldn’t be going anywhere next week basically stating Saturday. I-5 in those rural chud parts of Washington get very cold and icy.

Death By The Blues
Oct 30, 2011
https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1474091151292514308 lol

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster

sullat posted:

OK I'll finally ask, wtf is the "Great Barrington Declaration"? I'll take my answer off the air, thanks.

all lock downs and any mitigations at all really are just prolonging suffering and we would be done with this pandemic through infection -> herd immunity within a month or two if we just let er rip and then it would be entirely over forever

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable

Zugzwang posted:

yeah my dad had to go to the hospital last week for a chronic illness-related thing. He sat on a hospital bed for 2 days in a hallway before he could get a room. He’ll be in outpatient care for like another week. Also my mom is immunosuppressed. It rules.

This is the typical American hospital experience at this point in time. I implore everyone to understand that unless you are actively having a heart attack/stroke and get to the hospital within 4 hours of onset or had a life and limb threatening traumatic injury requiring surgical intervention, your rear end is sitting in a hallway for a couple days before you get a room or discharged. Also you WILL you get covid, guaranteed unless you are there with your elastomer.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

fosborb posted:

all lock downs and any mitigations at all really are just prolonging suffering and we would be done with this pandemic through infection -> herd immunity within a month or two if we just let er rip and then it would be entirely over forever

delta was like 3 weeks ago lol

it’s insanity

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Riddle me this batman, wtf is a great barrington and why do people seem to care so much

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

we have been letting it rip since April 2020

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Actual real good news
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1473162617627856899?s=20

quote:

HAVANA, Dec 20 (Reuters) - Cuba has vaccinated more of its citizens against COVID-19 than most of the world's largest and richest nations, a milestone that will make the poor, communist-run country a test case as the highly contagious Omicron variant begins to circle the globe.

The Caribbean island has vaccinated over 90% of its population with at least one dose, and 83% of the population is now fully inoculated, placing it second globally behind only the United Arab Emirates among countries of at least 1 million people, according to official statistics compiled by 'Our World in Data.'

What is Cuba's secret? While many of its neighbors in Latin America, as well as emerging economies globally, have competed for vaccines produced by wealthier nations, health officials say Cuba vaulted ahead by developing its own.

Infections and deaths from COVID-19 have plunged on the island in recent weeks, falling to less than 1% of their peak on Aug. 22, when fewer than half its citizens were vaccinated.

Nearly all of Cuba's children aged 2 to 18 have now been vaccinated with home-grown vaccines.

Schools have reopened and foreign tourists are once again welcome. Hospitals and morgues, overflowing in August, appear to be operating at pre-pandemic levels, according to Reuters witnesses.

"It is a truly remarkable accomplishment, given the size of Cuba, and also the U.S. embargo, that restricts their ability to import," said William Moss, director of the Johns Hopkins International Vaccine Access Center, a U.S.-based university group that works to ensure equitable access for low-income countries.

Cuba has said its homegrown, protein-based Abdala, Soberana 02 and Soberana Plus shots give upwards of 90% protection against symptomatic COVID-19 when offered in three-dose schemes.

However, Cuba has not yet published results of its large-scale clinical trials in peer-reviewed journals, nor has it submitted the documents required by the World Health Organization for approval of its vaccines, according to the WHO's online tally.

As a result, some public health experts in other countries remain leery of recommending them until the results are vetted.

The vaccines, which can be produced affordably and do not require deep-freezing, are seen by international health officials as a potential source for much needed doses in low-income countries in Latin America, Africa and Asia.

"They have been slow to publish results," said Moss. "If (the vaccines) got WHO qualification... that could be really important globally."

Cuba's progress is being tracked by COVAX, a global scheme designed to ensure fair access to COVID-19 vaccines.

Cuba is also studying whether the Omicron variant, which was first reported on the island on Dec. 8, will impact protection.

In the last week, new research has shown that some of the most widely-used global vaccines are likely to be less protective against infection from Omicron. The shots are expected to remain effective against severe illness and death.


sullat posted:

OK I'll finally ask, wtf is the "Great Barrington Declaration"? I'll take my answer off the air, thanks.

there should be no attempt to stop the spread of COVID, and instead resources should be used to provide focused protection to the most vulnerable. I do not know what focused protection means, from some of their statements it seems like it might just be vaccines for people over the age of 75.

Lacrosse
Jun 16, 2010

>:V



What a mildly high number

Why Am I So Tired
Sep 28, 2021

jinx_player posted:

At least she will not be lonley.

She had the nerve to get defensive mental health after my wife revealed she's been in this apartment for the past 21 months. She's just having a Prescription Cross Country Flight and Quarantine Party, it's in the DSM.

Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006

Vim Fuego posted:

THE DEMOCRATS!!!

Lets be honest - if Trump was re-elected he would be out there saying he cured the whole loving thing and that COVID doesnt exist anymore - that everyone just has a cold or the flu.

I prefer my government to be a bunch of inept and ineffective morons (democrats) and not blatantly evil fascists (republicans.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Goobish posted:

Do we just forget about the whole asymptomatic and incubation period thing every single wave? I thought I had a bad memory but gently caress even I can remember my community being ravaged by a wave of covid last month lol

we don't forget that fact so much as we've never internalized it.

alarumklok
Jun 30, 2012

I saw someone with an elastomeric when I got my booster earlier this week and I thought of this thread, but I had a brutal fever reaction to it for days so I plum forgot. The pharm techs were cackling and calling him Bane but I was jealous as gently caress. Gonna fish out mine from the cool zone times and join respirator crew. P100s, right, or is there some other filter I'm supposed to have? I want to survive to see the Great Satan collapse.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
hilariously, the plan to distribute tests that the white house found too socialisty had "partner with amazon for distribution" as one of its bullet points


if only the federal government had some efficient means to distribute things to peoples' homes :thunk:

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica

Pillowpants posted:

Lets be honest - if Trump was re-elected he would be out there saying he cured the whole loving thing and that COVID doesnt exist anymore - that everyone just has a cold or the flu.

I prefer my government to be a bunch of inept and ineffective morons (democrats) and not blatantly evil fascists (republicans.

No discernable difference

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

my entire twitter feed is about celebs or politicians or the tweeter testing positive

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster

oh well there's yer problem

should have named it Milquetoast Plan for Impact and then it would have been implemented in a loving heartbeat

Loucks
May 21, 2007

It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.

Pillowpants posted:

I prefer my government to be a bunch of inept and ineffective morons (democrats) and not blatantly evil fascists (republicans.

:lol:

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

doing great, thank you!

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010


Loucks
May 21, 2007

It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.

Pillowpants, that's embarassing. Yo should feel embarassed.

Weaponized Autism
Mar 26, 2006

All aboard the Gravy train!
Hair Elf

My parents, who live in FL, are flying out to India in mid-January. Let's see if they make it cause I can't stop the lols here

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speng31b
May 8, 2010

Pillowpants posted:

I prefer my government to be a bunch of inept and ineffective morons (democrats) and not blatantly evil fascists (republicans.

I prefer my government medium rare

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