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Zeria posted:Oh hey, this guy I knew is making all kinds of headlines.
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# ? Dec 25, 2021 20:07 |
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Colonel Cancer posted:Just lol at people who still have family
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# ? Dec 25, 2021 22:30 |
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Unexpected to me but there are far fewer large gatherings in my parent's neighborhood this year than last Maybe the people who have large gatherings have lost numbers
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# ? Dec 25, 2021 22:36 |
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Baconroll posted:I'm wondering at what point fatigue with restrictions will get to the point of being 'screw it' even for responsible pro-vax folks who follow all the precautions. 3 years, 4 years ? If you use Australia as an exemplar, about 2 months ago. The NSW and Vic lockdowns demonstrated that Delta couldn't be stopped without people doing more than they wanted to, so no most people aren't trying. Even in Canberra which had a 95% vax rate, people aren't wearing masks or doing check-ins anymore. I'm old, fat and tired of lockdowns myself so I've just updated my will and now I'm waiting for a cure/death. (Also maybe I have depression now.)
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# ? Dec 25, 2021 23:00 |
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Baconroll posted:I'm wondering at what point fatigue with restrictions will get to the point of being 'screw it' even for responsible pro-vax folks who follow all the precautions. 3 years, 4 years ? It feels like we are coming to the point where everyone has had Covid or knows someone close who had it, but they are vaxxed and it’s not really any worse than the flu and comes and goes in a few days.
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 00:23 |
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My friends and family (bay area, upstate new york) mostly managed to dodge it until recently. Then two of my uncles houses tested positive in the last two weeks. Thankfully everyone was boosted. Everyone reported symptoms akin to a mild cold (everyone involved is between 25 and 60).
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 00:51 |
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coelomate posted:Devil's Advocate: Every one of these sources is based on a single doctor in SA being misquoted by an anthropomorphic pine martin on twitter.
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 01:17 |
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smackfu posted:It feels like we are coming to the point where everyone has had Covid or knows someone close who had it, but they are vaxxed and it’s not really any worse than the flu and comes and goes in a few days. Given how absolutely loving awful actual flu is, Omicron seems to be significantly better, certainly for the vaxxed.
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 01:39 |
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Given how absolutely loving awful actual flu is, Omicron seems to be significantly better, certainly for the vaxxed. I'd be a lot more willing to be in situations where I might catch it if we knew how Omicron infections translate to long COVID (of the "permanently damages vital organs" variety).
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 02:10 |
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Given how absolutely loving awful actual flu is, Omicron seems to be significantly better, certainly for the vaxxed.
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 03:02 |
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Salt Fish posted:Every one of these sources is based on a single doctor in SA being misquoted by an anthropomorphic pine martin on twitter.
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 03:10 |
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Scarodactyl posted:We're way past that. Yeah we're way past the month of identical delta is mild and "where are the deaths?" takes from september. Fool me once...
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 03:20 |
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Pediatric hospitalizations have quadrupled in NYC, and kids under 5 won’t be able to get vaccinated for some time because Pfizer hosed up their trial for that age group. Half of said hospitalizations are under-5 kids. That is decidedly not awesome.
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 03:35 |
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smackfu posted:It feels like we are coming to the point where everyone has had Covid or knows someone close who had it, but they are vaxxed and it’s not really any worse than the flu and comes and goes in a few days. How many people do you think the flu kills each year exactly?
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 03:41 |
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Zugzwang posted:kids under 5 won’t be able to get vaccinated for some time because Pfizer hosed up their trial for that age group Pfizer should have listened to the American Academy of Pediatrics. quote:“The clinical trials for the COVID-19 vaccine in children ages 11 years old and younger are underway, and we need to see the data from those studies before we give this vaccine to younger children,” said AAP President Lee Savio Beers, MD, FAAP. “The dose may be different for younger ages. The AAP recommends against giving the vaccine to children under 12 until authorized by the FDA.” quote:“We do not want individual physicians to be calculating doses and dosing schedules one-by-one for younger children based on the experience with the vaccine in older patients,” Dr. Maldonado said. “We should do this based on all of the evidence for each age group, and for that we need the trials to be completed. I know parents are anxious to protect their children, but we want to make sure children have the full benefit of ongoing clinical trials.”
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 03:42 |
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A bunch of people in my family [that don’t live with me] just tested positive in the last 3 days.
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 03:43 |
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Party Ape posted:If you use Australia as an exemplar, about 2 months ago. The NSW and Vic lockdowns demonstrated that Delta couldn't be stopped without people doing more than they wanted to, so no most people aren't trying. This is not true FYI. Canberrans are both checking in and still using masks.
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 03:48 |
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I was always told Canberra was Australia's Ohio.
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 03:56 |
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smackfu posted:Did the insurance just go “lol we are paying $50”? $400, but yeah
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 04:06 |
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AOCs Pink Pearl posted:A bunch of people in my family [that don’t live with me] just tested positive in the last 3 days. Most people with omicron got it in the last 3 days.
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 04:39 |
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abigserve posted:This is not true FYI. Canberrans are both checking in and still using masks. I mean that's definitely true provided you haven't gone to either Belconnen or Woden Westfields. I was at Belco this morning and Omicron/the new guidance means mask wearing is almost universal again but two weeks ago at 11am, the only people in Coles Woden wearing a mask were me and an old couple.
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 05:08 |
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Salt Fish posted:Yeah we're way past the month of identical delta is mild and "where are the deaths?" takes from september. Fool me once...
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CSM posted:There's multiple studies out pointing at severely decrease severity. It still remains early, but the signs are there for now. It would have to be dramatically less severe (it's not) for that to even matter when the number of cases doubles every three days
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 11:06 |
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Don't worry guys Plague Island is speedrunning ALL the new variants so you don't have to, all signs so far are that it's milder than other variants. We may have 100,000+ new cases a day but it's mostly young adults (the worry is for older unvaccinated plus kids that can't be vaccinated yet, which is why other mitigations remain crucial)
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 11:19 |
let's see them young adult organs in a year
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 11:23 |
it's Philly cheese all the way down
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 11:23 |
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If someone's unlucky and catches mild Omicron a few days after their booster, does the immune system do some kind of tandem thing with the injection site and the actual virus, or was the shot essentially wasted? When the symptoms clear up and they test negative again, are they now teeming with advanced Fusion Suit antibodies, or should they wait a couple weeks and get another booster?
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 12:13 |
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one booster / week, in perpetuity
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 12:44 |
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Collapsing Farts posted:one booster / week, in perpetuity I WILL BE A LIVING GODDDDD
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 13:05 |
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cubicle gangster posted:$400, but yeah You're having to pay $3700 for those tests even though you have insurance? :O
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 14:00 |
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legooolas posted:You're having to pay $3700 for those tests even though you have insurance? :O All the poo poo you have done in the US is billed at crazy high rates - like the $4k for a test. If you have insurance when the bill gets submitted the insurer basically says "we pay $400 for a test", and that's what they get paid. You don't owe the difference (most of the time...)
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 15:41 |
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The really silly bit is that our local urgent care puts in a $500 charge for a basic office visit, but lists the price as $129 for cash uninsured patients. So it’s literally just a made up number.
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 15:53 |
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smackfu posted:The really silly bit is that our local urgent care puts in a $500 charge for a basic office visit, but lists the price as $129 for cash uninsured patients. So it’s literally just a made up number. Yeah, pricing is very arbitrary and extremely jacked up: https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-12-10/column-healthcare-billing-markups
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 16:08 |
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legooolas posted:You're having to pay $3700 for those tests even though you have insurance? :O Ha, no - I'd be on the biggest rant soapbox ever if I was having to pay anything. It was posted more as 'check out what these chumps tried to get away with' They're not getting it, as others pointed out.
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 17:07 |
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lol My wife has been in the hospital a week and I don’t have any clue what the bill is going to be like even after insurance I’m gonna guess like $60,000 or something that completely breaks us for the rest of our adult lives
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 18:04 |
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quote:Left out of early vaccine trials and faced with confusing messages and misinformation on the dangers to their unborn children, a disproportionately large number of pregnant women have steered clear of Covid shots. About 75% of expectant mothers in the U.K. and about 65% in the U.S. remain unvaccinated, making them among the groups most at risk of getting infected and being exposed to severe forms of the disease as the fast-spreading omicron strain sweeps across the globe. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-23/omicron-brings-new-risks-to-mostly-unvaccinated-pregnant-women At this point, I think all of the immune-naive people I know are pregnant / trying to get pregnant women.
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Pinecone Sample posted:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-23/omicron-brings-new-risks-to-mostly-unvaccinated-pregnant-women I would not want to be an immune-naive person right now. It seems like any kernels of truth re: “omicron is mild” are predicated on prior infection and/or vaccination.
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 18:48 |
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AHH F/UGH posted:lol My wife has been in the hospital a week and I don’t have any clue what the bill is going to be like even after insurance Not American, but I’ve heard that asking for an itemized bill will help reduce the cost. That way, you only get charged for the items that the hospital can substantiate.
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# ? Dec 26, 2021 19:11 |
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AHH F/UGH posted:lol My wife has been in the hospital a week and I don’t have any clue what the bill is going to be like even after insurance Do you understand how your insurance works wrt your deductible and out of pocket max? This is something you can know ahead of time as long as the treatment is in-network.
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It was my understanding when talking to the coding supervisor at my last job that insurance pays a percentage of things, hence prices being high so the hospital can recoup costs. A lot of the time stuff gets written off if it is contested. American healthcare is poo poo
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