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Just you wait until I poo poo in the punch bowl next year.
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AITA for putting "insta-fail" questions on my exam?quote:I'm a professor at a university teaching an intermediate level course this semester. For my final exam, I included 5 short answer questions that awarded 0 points if answered correctly, but each had a 20 point penalty if answered incorrectly or left blank (the exam is out of 100 points). There was no partial credit for these questions. Other parts of the exam were multiple choice, short answer, and one long answer questions (these are where the 100 points come from). The exam were designed to be completed in 75 minutes about students had 120 minutes to complete it. The final counts for 50% of their total grade.
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# ? Dec 27, 2021 22:03 |
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Funktastic posted:AITA for putting "insta-fail" questions on my exam? "Yes you did get the majority of the questions correct, especially the longer, harder ones. BUT on #17 you selected option "C" which was to wager half your cumulative score on the answer to question #23. And you answered the question, BUT as clearly spelled out in the syllabus, any question numbered 22 or higher needs to be answered in opposite fashion. Not to mention you answered "True" to question number 11, which had stated that question sorry had to be answered using ONLY "T" or "F". It's not my fault you can't follow instructions."
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# ? Dec 27, 2021 22:14 |
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wow I wonder why nobody else does that, this guy must be a real innovative brain genius professor
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# ? Dec 27, 2021 22:16 |
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Couple pages back but you’re a REAL bitch if you don’t kiss the fish
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# ? Dec 27, 2021 22:17 |
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Funktastic posted:AITA for putting "insta-fail" questions on my exam? Wait, so it's not trap questions about material too complex for the course, or a "read all instructions before answering and don't do question 5" thing, but questions with correct answers that were covered in the course and if you don't decipher this guy's roundabout clue you just fail? That's not a test, that's this guy jacking off about how students were stupid enough to trust him.
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Funktastic posted:AITA for putting "insta-fail" questions on my exam? quote:~93% of students answered every single "insta-fail" correctly. Most students that answered a question wrong had a 65%> before any penalties. Uncle Enzo posted:"Yes you did get the majority of the questions correct, especially the longer, harder ones. BUT on #17 you selected option "C" which was to wager half your cumulative score on the answer to question #23. And you answered the question, BUT as clearly spelled out in the syllabus, any question numbered 22 or higher needs to be answered in opposite fashion. Not to mention you answered "True" to question number 11, which had stated that question sorry had to be answered using ONLY "T" or "F". It's not my fault you can't follow instructions." Bruceski posted:Wait, so it's not trap questions about material too complex for the course, or a "read all instructions before answering and don't do question 5" thing, but questions with correct answers that were covered in the course and if you don't decipher this guy's roundabout clue you just fail? That's not a test, that's this guy jacking off about how students were stupid enough to trust him. 3x+5x or Solve x+7=11 It's pointless, but doesn't seem cruel. Peaceful Anarchy fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Dec 27, 2021 |
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Calico Heart posted:Couple pages back but you’re a REAL bitch if you don’t kiss the fish I refuse to tarnish the lips that I use to give my cat a kiss on the forehead by kissing a horrible fish. AITA for not defending my siblings after they had a separate Christmas without me? quote:For context, my parents are divorced and living in separate houses. I moved in with my dad when I was around 16 because of my mother (she liked to take things out on me), and I currently still live with my dad full time due to college expenses and COVID. Both of my siblings visit for a week at each location. My brother and I are both 19, my sister is 17.
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# ? Dec 27, 2021 22:24 |
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That professor is just preparing those students for real life, which is often more about navigating obtuse bureaucracy than anything else.
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# ? Dec 27, 2021 22:26 |
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Now my microeconomics professor's multiple choice tests don't sound so bad. Sure, choices could range anywhere from A-D to A-L depending on the question, and had "multiple correct answers, but select the most correct one", but at least you were allowed to write in reasons backing up your answer, giving you the chance to get it correct, even if you didn't pick his chosen answer.
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Funktastic posted:AITA for putting "insta-fail" questions on my exam? make those their own assessment due a week prior to the final exam, or integrate them into the final exam normally. those students would grade grub no matter what, but you're just making it worse for yourself by making your assessment lovely and confusing.
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# ? Dec 27, 2021 22:38 |
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I really hope that guy's class is a psychology class and he's ignored all the evidence that people hate losing stuff way more than they like getting things, and just raised the score cap on the final while making those questions only give positive points.
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# ? Dec 27, 2021 22:38 |
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Sisal Two-Step posted:AITA for not inviting my husband's son to Christmas? Holy gently caress that poor guy. I can see it in like 10 years. He runs into his bitch stepmother in the supermarket. They talk for a second, a conversation he initiates because he hasn't seen her or his dad in like 6 months. She engages briefly and mentions in passing (like as a reference of time) that her husband died recently and he realizes abruptly that: 1. his dad died and 2. nobody told him such that he missed the funeral I wonder how long she's been married to his dad and he's effectively been on his own, emotionally and family wise. Jesus.
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# ? Dec 27, 2021 22:39 |
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DemoneeHo posted:WIBTA if I stopped going to family therapy? Goddamn loving genius in the comments: quote:You can do this. You can do it because you are a good man who loves his family. You can just literally sit and listen , understand that each session is the equiv of paying your dues. You’re a successful man, you likely paid your dues at work, paid your dues under tough bosses. You can do this. quote:You know what? You're right. I can do this. I am successful, I did pay my dues (even though some of the people I did it for don't seem to appreciate it) and I am good man who loves his family. And what I decide to do will affect my legacy. So I am going to give it another shot. Thank you for putting it in perspective for me. I'm not convinced this person isn't just flat-out lying in a way that they know will make the rear end in a top hat dad stay at therapy and shut the gently caress up about it. They're VERY good at it. (also that loving jab in parentheses in the lovely idiot dad's comment, jesus)
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:Most students that answered a question wrong had a 65%> before any penalties. Most, not all. At least one person failed the test because they either skipped an insta-fail or got one answer wrong. 100% rear end in a top hat. The point of a test is to assess knowledge of the material, not pose riddles that require giving a poo poo about the syllabus (no one gives a gently caress about the syllabus). An example of a good question on a college calculus test: "Explain, in as much detail as possible, The Derivative. Include any history, examples, uses, and different descriptions you can. The better and more complete your answer, the more points you will get. There is no upper limit on how many points you can get from this question" Full blank page provided and it wasn't a timed test. This seems like a good way to figure out whether an undergrad understands what the hell a derivative is. There were other bog-standard math questions as well of course. Uncle Enzo fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Dec 27, 2021 |
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:I was going to say this is rear end in a top hat behaviour but it really depends on the questions. You can still gently caress that up if you're having a bad day, even if you'd normally get it right. gently caress this test. I failed a test like that once and nearly killed myself on the way home, just saying.
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AITA for agreeing to have my family visit for a week after my wife gives birth?.quote:My wife (23) and I (27) are expexting. She's due this month and things have been bit intense recently with her being extra hormonal. You dumb motherfucker
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# ? Dec 27, 2021 22:51 |
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olylifter posted:Holy gently caress that poor guy. He really reminds me of my brother who my wife's family thought was really weird and wouldn't invite him to stuff until I made a stink about it since he is a really good guy. He just happens to be a very large tattooed former marine who has never been in a relationship, is super awkward and just wants to spend his time doing wood carving. Which he is shockingly good at, he sells really intricately carved skulls (some done in mammoth ivory) and makes such a good living doing it he is putting himself through flight school just cause. But yeah that woman is terrible.
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Uncle Enzo posted:Most, not all. At least one person failed the test because they either skipped an insta-fail or got one answer wrong. 100% rear end in a top hat. The point of a test is to assess knowledge of the material, not pose riddles that require giving a poo poo about the syllabus (no one gives a gently caress about the syllabus). that question is horrible it's ambiguous, it's hard to understand what it's assessing, it's completely opaque as to how the grade will eventually be assigned, and it's actually asking students to write as many words as they possibly can which is something you Do Not Do because you end up with a huge wall of incomprehensible text rather than something more meaningful and thought through. there's other reasons too but drat that question is bad
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Uncle Enzo posted:Most, not all. At least one person failed the test because they either skipped an insta-fail or got one answer wrong. 100% rear end in a top hat. The point of a test is to assess knowledge of the material, not pose riddles that require giving a poo poo about the syllabus (no one gives a gently caress about the syllabus). Midnight Voyager posted:You can still gently caress that up if you're having a bad day, even if you'd normally get it right. gently caress this test.
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sugar free jazz posted:that question is horrible Can you tell me what the poo poo "The better and more zookeeper your answer" means? You seem to understand that question better than I did! Genuine question, Google is not supplying anything but actual zoo keepers. Midnight Voyager fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Dec 27, 2021 |
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^^^Bad autocorrect from "complete". My apologies for poor proofreading sugar free jazz posted:that question is horrible We had spent a great deal of time talking about the Derivative. It's a basic concept. The wording is going off my memory, it may have been clearer as written. The question was also provided ahead of time and he explained what he wanted. It must have been hell to grade but that wasn't my problem lol. Uncle Enzo fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Dec 27, 2021 |
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Midnight Voyager posted:Can you tell me what the poo poo "The better and more zookeeper your answer" means? You seem to understand that question better than I did! nope im just guessing they mean the more complete and detailed the answer the better grade on that question, which causes me intense anxiety because i'm just imagining the handwriting you're gonna have to decipher Uncle Enzo posted:We had spent a great deal of time talking about the Derivative. It's a basic concept. The wording is going off my memory, it may have been clearer as written. The question was also provided ahead of time and he explained what he wanted. the grading is an important part of the question because it determines....the grade. if it's totally ambiguous to grade that's really bad for both the teacher AND the students, because neither will understand why the grade was assigned. If you are assessing a basic concept you can do it in a way that's not lovely. sugar free jazz fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Dec 27, 2021 |
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Uncle Enzo posted:"Explain, in as much detail as possible, The Derivative. Include any history, examples, uses, and different descriptions you can. The better and more complete your answer, the more points you will get. There is no upper limit on how many points you can get from this question" dude that's a cool question. it's making me want to go do some calculus, for real. or at least read up on it. i wonder where my old book is
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I've [25 F] become a lot more successful in my career, than my boyfriend [25 M] has in his. He got really jealous and nasty about it while drunk.quote:My boyfriend and I are both engineers. We've been together since college (6 years). I always thought he was the smarter one, and I think he did too. He was the type to live and breathe engineering, and I was the type to want other hobbies, and really not immerse myself as much. But, I've ended up more successful, and he's jealous. quote:I think you have a point about this kind of thing affecting self esteem. It's always felt like he was the smart one, so I am sometimes surprised by myself, with how much I can accomplish, or surprised by my successes... Because I still have that pesky little feeling that I'm stupid. Another engineer defeated by such concepts as 'networking' and 'being pleasant to other people' and 'people skills.'
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# ? Dec 27, 2021 23:10 |
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The only place I can imagine insta-fail questions being appropriate are non entry level courses in med school or flight school. Q: Should you do X? A: No! You will kill the patient/crash the plane!
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Uncle Enzo posted:^^^Bad autocorrect from "complete". My apologies for poor proofreading oh thank god, I thought I was losing my mind LOL! like poo poo, did I miss something in math?
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Uncle Enzo posted:"Explain, in as much detail as possible, The Derivative. Include any history, examples, uses, and different descriptions you can. The better and more complete your answer, the more points you will get. There is no upper limit on how many points you can get from this question" That seems to encourage the student to just start writing and never stop. Fill as many pages as possible
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sugar free jazz posted:that question is horrible I don't know poo poo about calc (or math in general really) and that seems like a great question? "Explain CONCEPT, and you can bring in as many examples and references as possible to help you do this." That's could fit well in Science and Social Studies easily. It leaves things open for students who don't recall as much to still pull through based on what examples they can recall, and it keeps things open for students who have retained tons to get essentially bonus points. It doesn't punish the effort making stragglers, and it rewards the ones ahead of the curve. It won't get too stupid long either because this is on a timed test. We are missing some context on how this figures into the overall test. And yeah I guess the idea of what the normal grade on it would be, and at what point the extra points are extra credit territory.
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Grape posted:It won't get too stupid long either because this is on a timed test. Uncle Enzo posted:Full blank page provided and it wasn't a timed test. Grape posted:I don't know poo poo
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# ? Dec 27, 2021 23:26 |
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One of the professors for my master's degree hid a bunch of (email the word "blue") into his pages long syllabus. It was the most cringy, eyerolling thing ever. Also had a professor "hide" the final exam once. A lot of people really treat college as an extension of high school and it's dumb.
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Grape posted:I don't know poo poo about calc (or math in general really) and that seems like a great question? Explain concept, provide anything you think is relevant, is a bad question. Explain concept, provide information x, y, and z, is a good question. It is good because it asks for clear, specific things, that you taught in your course and are actually important for understanding the material. You can even write a rubric for it! If you tell students to provide whatever they think is relevant, with as many words as possible, they will do that. Most of what they write will be nonsense and you will have to adjudicate on the fly how to grade them. Do you take points off for wrong information? How many? How many points do they get for correct information? What if it's only partially correct, or if it's material that you didn't teach and they pulled in from somewhere else for some weird reason? How long do you feel like grading for? When you teach a concept within a course, there are specific things you focus on that are important. You know these ahead of time, and you know them when you are writing the exam. Assess those things on the exam in a way that is transparent to both the students and yourself.
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Sisal Two-Step posted:AITA for not inviting my husband's son to Christmas? quote:I'll reply to you, just to show that I'm reading the comments, but if everyone here expects me to reply to their hateful comments that they are spewing at me, without even knowing me... I have better things to do with my time. All I was trying to say with the t-shirt and Jeans comment is that my family lives their life a certain way; it's not about the way he dressed, but just that he was clearly out of his depth with my son and his family, he had nothing in common with them, so even though he was polite and tried to participate, he still made everyone feel very uncomfortable, because we knew he doesn't belong in that world, and, frankly, so did he.
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Maybe if it’s a safety related question, I could see it. Something about proper precautions when doing industrial X-ray or hot work in volatile environments. I also worked at a restaurant that had a week long training class about the menu and food preperation processes for all new front of house employees - you’d take a test every day, 5 tests and a final total, and they straight up told us at the start the first question on every test would be to write the mission statement word for word, and that if you got it wrong on the final you auto failed. I never heard of anyone missing it after the second day.
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The Lone Badger posted:That seems to encourage the student to just start writing and never stop. Fill as many pages as possible That's what I did. I grubbed the poo poo out of that question, I think I wrote 2 pages? (I was on an academic scholarship. I stood to lose money if my GPA was less than 3.95) I am probably misremembering a lot, I just remember an open ended question on one test about the Derivative, and a corresponding one on the next test about the Integral.
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# ? Dec 27, 2021 23:44 |
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people like this really just need a slap right in the face
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spacetoaster posted:One of the professors for my master's degree hid a bunch of (email the word "blue") into his pages long syllabus. sometimes professors do it to see who reads the syllabus, like the dude who hid $50 in plain sight and no one picked it up for the entire semester https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappen...nd-it-1.6284015
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Uncle Enzo posted:An example of a good question on a college calculus test: the derivative is a function that represents the rate of change of another given function. If you require more detail, kindly go gently caress yourself because this isn't an English final
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# ? Dec 28, 2021 00:47 |
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write a long detailed explanation of the integral, then at the end add "except backwards"
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Seth Pecksniff posted:sometimes professors do it to see who reads the syllabus, like the dude who hid $50 in plain sight and no one picked it up for the entire semester In the student's defense, I would've assumed the money was already claimed and wouldn't have tried to claim it.
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