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Hubbert posted:He's right, you know. one thing the bad thread forgets is while sure, it's potentially not too late to do anything about climate change, we're not actually ever going to. The gerontocracy gives less than zero shits about climate change and has happily mashed the accelerator to the floor. There's absolutely no way anything is going to happen until +5c is locked in, if even then.
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Dec 28, 2021 04:44
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Spergin Morlock posted:lmao if there are actually palm trees in BC https://v.redd.it/dsnjchwtkp781/DASH_96.mp4
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Dec 28, 2021 04:48
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Oxxidation posted:forecast for my area is saying 55°F on january 2nd where i live, on saturday the high will be 82 degrees and then on monday it will be 53. normal poo poo
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Dec 28, 2021 04:59
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Harik posted:one thing that's really crack-pinging me lately is that literally nothing you can buy, for any price, is made to last anymore. Not to diminish your overall point and more of some pendantry, but most housing throughout human history was bad and didn't last. what you see in Europe and parts of the East Coast is largely buildings commissioned/owned by rich people, whereas most of the plebs would have lived in lovely timber-types that would fall apart and eventually replaced by a richer person getting a brick house build there. same goes for america, most were pretty bad unless they were more rich/rich-adjacent brick-built, or up until around late victorian/edwardian when there'd be more heavy-wood to wood-lath walls (which we can't do anymore because we used up all the good old-growth wood) old cars also generally didn't last that long, usually what you see in terms of old cars is the ones that didn't break and owners kept maintaining. but, the one counterpoint is that older cars are much easier to repair and keep going with simple machined parts, like Hilux's are choice for poorer places because they're so easily repairable. And now cars are ofc stupidly complicated: it just takes on stupid o2 sensor or epm sensor to break and oops whole thing needs work. on the whole though, modern cars are generally more reliable these days (just don't buy american -- american cars bad bad bad) anyways on goods, yes. cast iron and heavy metal is expensive, it costs more to ship and stock when you could just sell someone thing alloy-teflon coated pans or plastic cups and plastic bowls instead for a fraction of the price. there's two things that drove that: declining economic conditions and increasing resource scarcity, and all following marxist tendency for rate of profit to decline. as the old saying goes, it's expensive to be poor. if you're starving for money of course you're going to pickup that $9.99 walmart doodad garbage instead of spending $80 on one, but it's intentionally made to be cheap and break instantly, and as more people get poor-er they flock to dollar tree type versions and selling you less but a lower store-price. then what happens to the goods that were higher-priced but made better, they start dwindling and having to cut prices and cut quality until everything is race to the bottom planned obsolescence garbage to keep profits flowing it's like buying a $1/roll of thin paper towels when you could get a 40-pack from costco for $12; and if you're poor you're just going to keep buying htose $1/roll paper towels. and to reiterate, stagnant or constant profits isn't good enough under capitalism. profits have to keep rising, ever more and more. selling people something that they only need to buy once or twice is death for profits. anyways what we've seen the past <10 years or so is the entire collapse of the "buy it for life" type products (except on the extreme-extreme super expensive commercial-side). that includes dishwashers, microwaves, refrigerators, sewing machines, whatever. in microwave example, literally every single microwave sold is now produced at 1(!) single OEM factory in china and then LG/GE/Whirlpool/etc all just put their own shell on it and maybe change a few doodads but it's all internally the same and it's all junk and breaks. fridges are also particularly bad right now and well if you want stuff that's meant to taking a beating, you gotta pony up for some commercial-grade stuff (and no, if you can buy it at a retail store it's not commercial grade even if they say PROFESSIONAL on it), those you'll need to specially order. so there is really good durable stuff being made, it's just a price that consumes will balk at and qq so they aren't sold consumer-ishly and aren't intended to be. for consumers, plastic is choice de jour but yes america is addicted to producing mountains of trash Xaris has issued a correction as of 05:06 on Dec 28, 2021 |
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Dec 28, 2021 05:01
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16 min into dont look up (two hour runtime wtf) and i want a sheriff conlon short imo
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Dec 28, 2021 05:08
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its currently 23C in Brisbane Australia right now. quite chilly near the water. I can’t remember the last time its been below 28c this time of year. usually it’s sweltering and humid and just uncomfortable. heh its a nice (climate) change
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Dec 28, 2021 05:14
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Xaris posted:anyways on goods, yes. cast iron and heavy metal is expensive, it costs more to ship and stock when you could just sell someone thing alloy-teflon coated pans or plastic cups and plastic bowls instead for a fraction of the price. counterpoint: cast iron is a pain in the rear end to clean and maintain, whereas plastic cups/bowls/etc last loving forever, and are basically indestructible.
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Dec 28, 2021 05:24
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have u tried using soap n water
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Dec 28, 2021 05:28
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i work for a moving company and there's a lot of ikea furniture that we deliver and sometimes assemble. sometimes we disassemble people's ikea furniture when they're moving and put it back together when we get to their new place. it's loving garbage. it's so nice when we get jobs where we move furniture that's made out of solid wood and isn't garbage and is made with care instead of the cookie cutter delicate shitwood that ikea furniture is made out of. i loving hate ikea. and their furniture. and people who buy poo poo from ikea. what a terrible loving store.
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Dec 28, 2021 05:28
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Alobar posted:i loving hate ikea. and their furniture. and people who buy poo poo from ikea. what a terrible loving store. ppl can buy a $40 ikea nightstand or something even if you're poor. but especially if you're a doughy midwestern transplant who just moved to an apartment in la or nyc for their new tech/marketing job, and move around a lot you don't want good furniture. or something for the kids bedroom. you want cheap that you can just throw on the street when you move out. it's merely a store reflecting the economic conditions of consumers. it's also light and can be transported in a car in flatpacks without needing specialty freight trucks to bring it to you which is further $$ that most ppl dont have also most old furniture was made out of wood that no longer exists because we used it all up to make stupid poo poo. what's typically done now is quick-growth trees like douglas fir that are put on specific tree plantations and cut down and chopped up into oriented strand board and compressed polymer wood pieces. and then we put down more haber bosch-produced fertilizers, pumped aquifer water, and till up the soil and grow more trees there again. also applies to modern building material. i should add we even used up all the dense old-growth wood when the planet was only at like 1 billion people like 80 years ago and now we're at like 8
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Dec 28, 2021 05:34
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Fe fi fo fum I smell the stench of a malthusian
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Dec 28, 2021 05:35
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apartments should all be furnished. there is no need for such a mobile population to be burning gallons and gallons of gas just to lug their stinky faux leather couch to a new complex every 6-12 months, seeding a bed bug infestation at every one
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Dec 28, 2021 05:58
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Mayor Dave posted:Escape was impossible and the colony is doomed. They're all too old to have kids and they don't appear to have any means of building anything or even protecting themselves from the native life. It just enhances the message - even the people who think they're smart enough to escape will fail yeah but they couldve included people with the right skill sets, and billionaires today are doing that whole "how do we do servants?" thing. I just though the ending makes it seem like a plausible survival plan and kinda nudges towards musk/bezos being competent, when the idea itself, risk earth but have a private backup plan, is dumb at the core so it shouldnt even have been presented as plausible. I get the gag though, its the punchline set up earlier.
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Dec 28, 2021 06:02
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IKEA furniture is mostly compressed sawdust - a waste product and recyclable. Obviously only the unsophisticated or poor buy such things. I demand my furniture be made of the finest solid oak planks so I know at least a 100+ year old tree was felled to make my sock drawer. That is true power and the mark of a gentleman.
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Dec 28, 2021 06:05
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God Hole posted:apartments should all be furnished. there is no need for such a mobile population to be burning gallons and gallons of gas just to lug their stinky faux leather couch to a new complex every 6-12 months, seeding a bed bug infestation at every one gently caress that, apartments should all be like Dutch ones where you have to provide your own flooring so I never have to deal with carpet ever again, much less lovely landlord-provided furniture and loving fabric couches
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Dec 28, 2021 06:06
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Cup Runneth Over posted:gently caress that, apartments should all be like Dutch ones where you have to provide your own flooring so I never have to deal with carpet ever again, much less lovely landlord-provided furniture and loving fabric couches Sometimes I pause to think about how practically every American "carpet" is plastic nowadays
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Dec 28, 2021 06:07
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Check out this utterly psychopathic article on an utterly psychopathic website https://www.plasticsmakeitpossible.com/plastics-recycling/how-to-recycle/at-home/recycle-your-carpeting/
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Dec 28, 2021 06:08
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Owling Howl posted:IKEA furniture is mostly compressed sawdust - a waste product and recyclable. Obviously only the unsophisticated or poor buy such things. lol if you dont use rosewood toothpicks
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Dec 28, 2021 06:08
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Homeless Friend posted:have u tried using soap n water Noooo no soap on the cast iron stop it get the gently caress away from my pans!
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Dec 28, 2021 06:10
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 THE MOMENT YOU JUST NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE PLASTIC
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Dec 28, 2021 06:14
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Haha holy gently caress That moment you and your spouse had a few words… right before the guests arrived. (We’ve all been there.) Picture of crying lady with runny mascara They’ve arrived! Time for a quick makeup touch up. That little mascara wand will come in handy right now.
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Dec 28, 2021 06:18
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fanfic insert posted:yeah but they couldve included people with the right skill sets, and billionaires today are doing that whole "how do we do servants?" thing. I just though the ending makes it seem like a plausible survival plan and kinda nudges towards musk/bezos being competent, when the idea itself, risk earth but have a private backup plan, is dumb at the core so it shouldnt even have been presented as plausible. It's hilarious to me that I'm sure the logic behind superyachts is "we can always just fish for unlimited food!"  They exclaim, as the bosun reels up the second knockoff Barbie doll torso of the day. ----- Complete aside, if you want to punch your monitor, check out this poo poo making the rounds on US television: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOURX29-eFQ The O&NG industry literally weaponized the "Come Back, Zinc" filmstrip from The Simpsons. BIG HEADLINE has issued a correction as of 06:31 on Dec 28, 2021 |
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Dec 28, 2021 06:29
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Alobar posted:
dont forget it was founded by a nazi
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Dec 28, 2021 06:34
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Owling Howl posted:IKEA furniture is mostly compressed sawdust - a waste product and recyclable. Obviously only the unsophisticated or poor buy such things. I recently helped a friend move some 15-year-old Ikea furniture that had already survived a bunch of moves. It was honestly in pretty good condition and held up fine to us manhandling it into the back of a pickup truck. It really just comes down to how you build the stuff (use glue unless you're sure you want to disassemble it) because there's no reason the actual materials should fall apart. It's cheap poo poo but so is a lot of stuff 
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Dec 28, 2021 06:39
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Homeless Friend posted:have u tried using soap n water The issue is not washing it (although they are pretty drat heavy and you really need one of those large sinks to wash them in). You also need to dry it quite well afterwards (usually by heating it on an oven). Otherwise it rusts and you need to use chain glove to remove the rust layer, then re-season it, which takes a while and creates a lot of smoke. I've cooked with rust iron pans and woks for years, after one day saying gently caress it and giving them to my sister. I can safely say my kitchen experience has been way more enjoyable since.
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Dec 28, 2021 06:59
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The trick is to just don't worry about seasoning the pans. Let them look gross, clean them vigorously, and use butter or oil when you need foods to not stick.
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Dec 28, 2021 07:02
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Paradoxish posted:I recently helped a friend move some 15-year-old Ikea furniture that had already survived a bunch of moves. It was honestly in pretty good condition and held up fine to us manhandling it into the back of a pickup truck. It really just comes down to how you build the stuff (use glue unless you're sure you want to disassemble it) because there's no reason the actual materials should fall apart. IKEA is better quality than most of the particleboard garbage at its price point tbh. it'll last longer than 99% of the poo poo you can get off Wayfair
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Dec 28, 2021 07:03
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fanfic insert posted:dont forget it was founded by a nazi you can probably name all the companies not founded by a nazi on one hand
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Dec 28, 2021 07:05
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the criticism of ikea furniture is of the concept of furniture that is closer to disposable than not. In general, for a population, having a giant global retail empire flying around ten trillion tons of pressed sawdust that makes low durability furniture that generally needs replaced all the time is a trillion times more wasteful than just regular tree murder giving someone a table or a dresser that lasts for 200 years. Then again we just replace the durable goods for stylistic reasons anyway. I know my mother still has her grandmother's dresser shes moved a million times over the past 50 years and my dumb rear end has had a steady stream of cargo planes airlifting about 35 of those loving 4 drawer ikea dressers to me the problem is it doesn't matter anymore so I'm going to try and get something stylish I'd go for solid ivory but elephants have done nothing to me, yet Rectal Death Adept has issued a correction as of 07:25 on Dec 28, 2021 |
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Dec 28, 2021 07:15
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Cup Runneth Over posted:I was a little disappointed the movie didn't come up with any bought and paid-for scientists to say the comet isn't actually on a crash course/wouldn't be extinction-level, but I guess that would be too real there was one, the head of NASA came out and said it's no big deal then resigned in disgrace to protect the president
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Dec 28, 2021 07:26
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I liked the bit where they didn't listen to the main characters because they were from University of Michigan, not an ivy.
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Dec 28, 2021 07:28
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Yeah I was really scoffing at the idea of the colony ship. Especially the idea that they could freeze themselves like that. I was disappointed they were eaten by dinosaurs. when I saw the cryo pods full of oil execs I was sure they would disembark to simply find everyone who bought a ticket is too old to reproduce
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Dec 28, 2021 07:37
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Rutibex posted:there was one, the head of NASA came out and said it's no big deal then resigned in disgrace to protect the president a lady who looked suspiciously like neera tanden lol
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Dec 28, 2021 07:38
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CSPAM > Biosphere Collapse: Don't look up spoiler thread
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Dec 28, 2021 08:07
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Rutibex posted:I was disappointed they were eaten by dinosaurs. when I saw the cryo pods full of oil execs I was sure they would disembark to simply find everyone who bought a ticket is too old to reproduce
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Dec 28, 2021 08:22
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Owling Howl posted:IKEA furniture is mostly compressed sawdust - a waste product and recyclable. Obviously only the unsophisticated or poor buy such things. there is so, so much cool used furniture out there i dont know why anyone would buy new and a used sock drawer made out of a 100+ year old oak is better for the environment than a new ikea whatever
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Dec 28, 2021 08:25
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:The issue is not washing it (although they are pretty drat heavy and you really need one of those large sinks to wash them in). You also need to dry it quite well afterwards (usually by heating it on an oven). Otherwise it rusts and you need to use chain glove to remove the rust layer, then re-season it, which takes a while and creates a lot of smoke. i just wipe em down with another rag (no visible water), leave me at 5% tilt on some other rag for any miniscule evaporation. is very true they're heavy as balls and u need big sink. also hot af water to blast em
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Dec 28, 2021 09:25
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The AJ article links to this study, which I remembered having read at some point and it's still pretty funny. The joke is that there is a lifestyle that's materially sustainable in the sense that it requires around 8000 kg of yearly inputs as defined in the study instead of 30k+, and it's basically living the life of a broke vegetarian undergrad student in Helsinki forever. A substantial upgrade for many people on the planet sure, but imagine getting elected in a rich democracy on that premise. Once again we're back to the destruction of most aspects of a market economy as a necessary starting point to sustainability, and of the idea that good times mean you get to have more stuff.
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Dec 28, 2021 09:29
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Why would anyone buy plastic spoons or wood items made from glued strips of wood? I bought my wooden cooking utensils from a local outdoor market 15+ years ago, and they work fine still. I wanted a bigger ladle so I found one from Estonian tourist shop in Tallinn. I think it was 10€ and some local carpenter made them. The neck got slightly tilted after use, I guess it dried out to a different position. Doesn't affect the use though. If you see garbage products just leave them to the shop. Don't buy them. At least in Finland it is still possible to find durable items, just have to look around. I use 2nd hand military clothes and boots so durability in clothes is not an issue either. Leo Köhler t-shirts are OK too, bundeswehr t-shirt copies. You can buy socks made in Finland, Germany etc which last a very long time. If you need nice shoes look at Sanders & Sanders, Loake 1880, Red Wing etc Goodyear welted shoes. They're like 300€/pair but durability does not come for free. If your jeans suck, look at okayamadenim. Made in Japan jeans, including the cloth used. 
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Dec 28, 2021 10:03
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Rutibex posted:there was one, the head of NASA came out and said it's no big deal then resigned in disgrace to protect the president I thought that was supposed to be a HUD/neurosurgeon situation where the head of NASA was an anesthesiologist.
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