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Charles posted:Leather is against my beliefs too so that's frustrating. According to the rep all trims of the Ioniq 5 have a leather steering wheel, despite the rest of the interior being vegan. I don't know if it's actually true as they don't have their poo poo together. A possible alternative would be the sibling car from Kia, the EV6 which seems to offer "vegan leather" (aka fake leather) and suede as options. At least on the UK site it also explicitly states that the steering wheel would be vegan as well, as for the US side of things it's less clear since Kia is still showing pre-production images and disclaimers but it looks much more likely that you could spec it for at least. The underlying platform/drivetrain/batteries are so similar as to be a almost the same, though the styling externally and internally are fairly different (which is a good thing IMO) Kia US Site posted:https://www.kia.com/us/en/ev6
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Charles posted:Leather is against my beliefs too so that's frustrating. According to the rep all trims of the Ioniq 5 have a leather steering wheel, despite the rest of the interior being vegan. I don't know if it's actually true as they don't have their poo poo together. Are y’all sure it’s really leather and not the PU “leather” that is what’s actually available in 95% of cars in the $20-40k range?
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FilthyImp posted:The biggest argument against the M3 is basically echoes of the goon having a hell of a time with the repairs. You roll the dice with the condition of the vehicle. Let me tell you a story about a Mercury Zephyr...
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Ok Comboomer posted:Are y’all sure it’s really leather and not the PU “leather” that is what’s actually available in 95% of cars in the $20-40k range? No, how would one determine this?
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Ok Comboomer posted:Yeah, but it’s not MX-5 enjoyable. It’s not even Fiesta ST enjoyable Is there any EV that's small and enjoyable like that?
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cruft posted:No, how would one determine this? Google? Manufacturer specific forums? Review articles? Edit: from 5 min of googling it would appear that it’s a blended deal where the seating surfaces are “galvanized” (treated) leather and the rest of the upholstery is matched vinyl. Quoting a Bolt owners forum: You can add the Driver Confidence package to an LT Bolt. That adds Rear Parking Assist, Rear Cross-Traffic Alert, and Lane Change Alert w/Side Blind Zone Alert trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Dec 29, 2021 |
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Failson posted:Is there any EV that's small and enjoyable like that? The new Fiat 500e looks pretty neat, and I hope they bring it back to North America.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:The new Fiat 500e looks pretty neat, and I hope they bring it back to North America. why? Were the gas and diesel ones that mostly flopped in America not lovely and low-quality enough for you?
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Failson posted:Is there any EV that's small and enjoyable like that? Have you heard the good news about the Chevrolet Spark EV? Wow, they're selling for ~$3k more than what I paid for mine 5 years ago. https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for...e&numRecords=25 Fun as hell, good "around town" range, and the DCFC (if equipped) is fast due to the small battery (19-21kWh depending on year). If you have a second car and can be honest about your 95% use case for transportation, the Spark EV is an incredible option.
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Ok Comboomer posted:why? Were the gas and diesel ones that mostly flopped in America not lovely and low-quality enough for you? Why are you posting in this thread, seriously?
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Why are you posting in this thread, seriously? I didn’t know that acknowledging that FCA/Stellantis/Chrysler/FIAT has a decades-long history of selling lovely, low-quality cars with poor reliability and durability was a thread sin But I‘ve got 6 pages worth of posts ITT full of pertinent content, EV-specific discussion, advice based on research and experience, and so forth eat me Failson posted:Is there any EV that's small and enjoyable like that? i3 is pretty drat fun, basically drives like a BMW should trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Dec 29, 2021 |
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Grobbit posted:A possible alternative would be the sibling car from Kia, the EV6 which seems to offer "vegan leather" (aka fake leather) and suede as options. At least on the UK site it also explicitly states that the steering wheel would be vegan as well, as for the US side of things it's less clear since Kia is still showing pre-production images and disclaimers but it looks much more likely that you could spec it for at least. Suede is another kind of leather, unless they meant vegan suede. Also I really like the sliding console of the Ioniq 5. It's all academic anyways as I can't afford it right now. Ok Comboomer posted:Are y’all sure it’s really leather and not the PU “leather” that is what’s actually available in 95% of cars in the $20-40k range? Manufacturer spec sheet says so and I asked my preorder "conceriege". As mentioned they didn't even know prices or anything until now so who knows really.
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Pretty much any *checks notes* Stellantis product is off the table, due to horrible reliability, and the inability of fiatsler mechanics to fix said problems. It hurts to say that, since my family loved Chryslers. Wayne Knight posted:Have you heard the good news about the Chevrolet Spark EV? I had not! That sounds cheap and good. Ok Comboomer posted:I didn’t know that acknowledging that FCA/Stellantis/Chrysler/FIAT has a decades-long history of selling lovely, low-quality cars with poor reliability and durability was a thread sin I am very tempted by the i3, because I love the Giga World's goofy late-80's conference room interior.
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The Bolt has a decent amount more range in the real world than the SR Model 3, right?
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MrLogan posted:The Bolt has a decent amount more range in the real world than the SR Model 3, right? According to Bjorn, its about the same: In Europe the Bolt is the Opel Ampera-e https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V6ucyFGKWuSQzvI8lMzvvWJHrBS82echMVJH37kwgjE/edit?usp=sharing
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Failson posted:Is there any EV that's small and enjoyable like that?
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Failson posted:Is there any EV that's small and enjoyable like that? Not in the U.S. but the Kia Soul EV, small, yes, not enjoyable like a Fiesta ST or MX-5 but a different kind of fun, IMO.
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Boy I hope the next electrician comes through because I'm definitely not running this rig overnight 
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That's what GFCI is for :poop:
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Tiny Timbs posted:Boy I hope the next electrician comes through because I'm definitely not running this rig overnight Better than my temporary setup. I ran a cable from my kitchen's stove outlet.
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Since we're talking about materials, I got the Weavetech option for the Polestar seats, I like it quite a bit; it's a neoprene-like material so it's easy to clean but also seems to be comfortable in both heat and cold (which is my main complaint with leather: I can't stand leather when it's hot). Biggest downside was that there was no option for ventilated seats + weavetech
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Tiny Timbs posted:Boy I hope the next electrician comes through because I'm definitely not running this rig overnight Haha. Every part of that sentence sounds familiar to me. Supposedly an electrician is coming tomorrow to install outlets near the driveway and do a bunch of other work at our new place, but we'll see what happens. We've spent several weeks calling electricians (double digits, I lost count) and having them not show up to do estimates, or show up and not give estimates, refusing to give estimates without us agreeing to work up front, and so on. In the mean time we're running a cable across the sidewalk at the current place and hoping that no one trips on it.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:I don't think the Miata really fits since it's not going to fit 2 car seats well but an electric Fiesta ST would be pretty cool. Maybe Ford will do it some day. Until then, the Bolt's the only player in North America in its class/price point with a drivetrain that suits the topic. I read they're going to start selling the KIA Soul EV in the US in 2022, that seems like a pretty close competitor to the Bolt. They've sold them forever up in Canada and we're currently debating between the two. Need to take then both for a test drive. The KIA is a little more expensive, but Chevy financing is  . 5.99% finance, 7.49% lease?? Yeah, pass.
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The existing fiat 500e actually has solid electric drivetrain and components. People are reporting 120 mi in City driving, California weather. It's also slightly quicker than a gasoline car. It's more comparable to the older Leaf, and priced about the same on a used car market.
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Nitrox posted:The existing fiat 500e actually has solid electric drivetrain and components. People are reporting 120 mi in City driving, California weather. It's also slightly quicker than a gasoline car. It's more comparable to the older Leaf, and priced about the same on a used car market. It can go 120mi in California weather before breaking down. Color me impressed
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Finger Prince posted:I read they're going to start selling the KIA Soul EV in the US in 2022 Really?? 🤞
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Finger Prince posted:I read they're going to start selling the KIA Soul EV in the US in 2022, that seems like a pretty close competitor to the Bolt. They've sold them forever up in Canada and we're currently debating between the two. Need to take then both for a test drive. The KIA is a little more expensive, but Chevy financing is I just go to my credit union for a loan. Not sure if there's something like that in Canada though.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:I just go to my credit union for a loan. Not sure if there's something like that in Canada though. Oh for sure, we'd get a bank loan if we went that route. Hell, I think our line of credit has a better rate than that.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Better than my temporary setup. I ran a cable from my kitchen's stove outlet. I was trickle charging at level 1 from my kitchen to my detached garage for about 3 weeks but the electricians finally came and God drat does it feel nice to have my car at 100% every morning. Now if I can just get the real plates finally...
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Finger Prince posted:I read they're going to start selling the KIA Soul EV in the US in 2022, that seems like a pretty close competitor to the Bolt. They've sold them forever up in Canada and we're currently debating between the two. Need to take then both for a test drive. The KIA is a little more expensive, but Chevy financing is Holy hell, I thought Tesla’s ~5.5% lease money factor was pricey. I guess the finance department has joined the “gently caress you, where else are you going to find a car in stock” party.
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Tiny Timbs posted:Boy I hope the next electrician comes through because I'm definitely not running this rig overnight When I’m at the family house I have the travel charger coming through the window into an outlet in the enterance hallway. Looks janky as hell, but the outlet can handle it easily and I know the wiring can handle it without coming close to the max capacity. Doesn’t even get warm. Can’t wait until we get to the point in renovating where it’s time to put in a proper charger so that I don’t have to charge for 20 hours.
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Sonic Dude posted:Holy hell, I thought Tesla’s ~5.5% lease money factor was pricey. I guess the finance department has joined the “gently caress you, where else are you going to find a car in stock” party. It explains why the Chevy dealers all have loads of bolts and bolt EUVs available on their lots.
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kliras posted:I didn't know about this before, and I thought the lack of a rear wiper was weird enough, but apparently the interior leather (steering wheel aside) is real in EU but fake in US (5:00)? There are some weird decisions in this one. There are three trim levels in Europe, Progress(textile interiors), Innovation(textile-leather) and Evolution(leather). The AWD variant is sold only as Evolution trim.
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Failson posted:Pretty much any *checks notes* Stellantis product is off the table, due to horrible reliability, and the inability of fiatsler mechanics to fix said problems. Peugeot, Citroën/DS, Opel/Vauxhall are all great, sorry you only get the lovely Italian/American parts of the lineup.
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Finger Prince posted:It explains why the Chevy dealers all have loads of bolts and bolt EUVs available on their lots. There's not a single Bolt in the entire state of New Mexico. None in El Paso, either. Maybe it's time for a trip to the PNW.
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Finger Prince posted:It explains why the Chevy dealers all have loads of bolts and bolt EUVs available on their lots. I believe they're still under a stop sale order. A dealer near me shows EUVs in stock on Autotrader but nothing on their actual site.
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Back at the goddamn Dairy Queen in Sutherlin OR. 160.4 miles Temps ~35F Used 72% of charge so 63.4 kWh so 2.5 miles/kWh Trip meter says 16% of my energy went to climate use, 5% accessories, 5% external temperature.
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Am I going to be stuck with using the dumb distance/consumption metric rather than the far superior consumption/distance one when I switch to an F-150 Lightning? 250 Wh/mi is way better and fair to compare against other vehicles than 4 mi/kWh.
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bird with big dick posted:miles per kWh is better. Not really, and this is another one of those things that only America does while the rest of the world would rather know how many kWh it takes to drive 100 miles(or kilometers).
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