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SuperMechagodzilla posted:“You have your analyst, I have my bikes.”
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ImpAtom posted:I mean "is famous" is not the same as "is happy" and it's pretty clear Neo wasn't exactly very happy especially when they literally told him that he had to do the one thing he specifically said he didn't want to do or they were going to do it without him. Neo's whole life in the new matrix has been constructed to cause him the maximum amount of pain and angst when the very real memories he has resurface and they look like reflections of the fake world he lives in. Its in the film that Neo has been trying to kill himself ever since he was resurrected, he's absolutely not happy.
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Dec 31, 2021 09:28
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this was not a good film. like, the audio mixing, the fight choreography, the general plot, the weird smith 2.0 guy, merovingian showing up to rant about video games, the entirely ridiculous meta creation movie director stuff. did they make this film wrong as a joke?
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Dec 31, 2021 10:14
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Trinity hates fake friends and now she hates fake family. Logical progression. You can understand it by understanding that bots are humans hijacked by simple programs, in the same way that agents are humans hijacked by complex programs. people have tried to dispute this because they bleed green matrix symbols (which they only do when they fall out of the windows, and don't do when they're shot, blugeoned or stabbed) but after rewatching the trilogy that was never a constistant indicator of what someone really was.
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Dec 31, 2021 10:23
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Horizon Burning posted:this was not a good film. like, the audio mixing, the fight choreography, the general plot, the weird smith 2.0 guy, merovingian showing up to rant about video games, the entirely ridiculous meta creation movie director stuff. did they make this film wrong as a joke? it’s high tech Freddy got fingered, yeah.
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Dec 31, 2021 10:29
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Noob Saibot posted:You do understand these movies are green lit by WB execs, scripts approved by WB execs, and privately screened for WB execs long before the first trailer is released right? I wonder how those execs felt when Free Guy came out? Must have been some uncomfortable deja-vu moments among them.
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Dec 31, 2021 11:30
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moths posted:Leave all the fake control people behind to join a cabal of free- thinkers. It's ok if some of those people die along the way because they're not real people or they'd agree with us. You really should watch A Glitch in the Matrix
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Dec 31, 2021 13:08
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ruddiger posted:Rewatching the new matrix movie got me relistening to Ministry again so I’m thankful for that. Has Al Jourgenson written even one good song since Filth Pig? imo "Forkboy" is the best thing he was ever involved with
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Dec 31, 2021 13:11
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Horizon Burning posted:this was not a good film. like, the audio mixing, the fight choreography, the general plot, the weird smith 2.0 guy, merovingian showing up to rant about video games, the entirely ridiculous meta creation movie director stuff. did they make this film wrong as a joke? yeah the film owns, i loved it
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Dec 31, 2021 14:01
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moths posted:Like, today you shouldn't be making a movie where the cool and correct answer is to shoot up a school. Did matrix 1-3 happen?
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moths posted:I remember being bored during the mech fight and it was like getting tired of breasts during Showgirls all over again.
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Dec 31, 2021 16:31
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"He did the unthinkable... he made sex unsexy."
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mmmmalo posted:That quote comes on the heels of Neo saying he pays his therapist to relieve him of figuring out how much control he has over his life, I think the idea is motorcycles are her blue pill. So it’s Neo’s attitude towards therapy that’s wrong, not so much the therapy itself. If I were to speculate, I’d guess there were rewrites/reshoots and Neo was originally trapped in a “modal” training program thing. That would explain why there are effectively no human characters: the whole thing was just to get him to unlock his powers again, preparing him to fix the errors with the Sati version of the matrix.
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Dec 31, 2021 17:40
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I saw the original in IMAX a few weeks ago (the real imax, not one of the fake ones). I believe it was a transfer from the original theatrical print. The thing that struck me was how colorful it was -- particularly blue. Also that lady in the red dress really popped out.
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Some anime guy on Twitter is hinting at Animatrix 2. Presumably on HBO MAX https://twitter.com/lefrenchaccent/status/1476730400106065946?s=21
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Dec 31, 2021 19:35
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That would kick rear end. Also loled at John Gaetea’s cameo in resurrections, he even got a speaking part! He should have worked on the vfx instead.
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Dec 31, 2021 20:40
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Please don't bankrupt Square-Enix again, Endwalker was really good.
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Dec 31, 2021 20:46
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Noob Saibot posted:Some anime guy on Twitter is hinting at Animatrix 2. Presumably on HBO MAX Animatrix 2 is exactly what Matrix 4 needs to fill out the gaps. Pretty hyped.
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Noob Saibot posted:Some anime guy on Twitter is hinting at Animatrix 2. Presumably on HBO MAX YES PLEASE
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I need constant new matrix content on HBO+ and a new matrix spin-off film every year
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Jan 1, 2022 06:07
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A sitcom, but in the Matrix.
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I would love an actual season of anime. Instead of the standalone episode shorts we got. That one for The Dark Knight was badass too though.
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lunar detritus posted:Animatrix 2 is exactly what Matrix 4 needs to fill out the gaps. Pretty hyped. Matrix Awakens was bizarrely better than the actual film, so why not. But don't be fooled: as we know from the piles of tie-in stuff with the last sequels, supplementary material can't actually "fill the gaps" in a narrative. It can only give us more narratives.
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Horizon Burning posted:this was not a good film. like, the audio mixing, the fight choreography, the general plot, the weird smith 2.0 guy, merovingian showing up to rant about video games, the entirely ridiculous meta creation movie director stuff. did they make this film wrong as a joke? My thought while watching was "the creator is now irreverent about their creation"
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We can all go home now, RLM have given their verdict. https://youtu.be/rpSo4fu1rgM
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Morpheus: Take the blue pill or the red pill. Neo: I'll take the third pill. Morpheus: What colour is that? Neo: You KNOW what colour is that.
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unlimited shrimp posted:My thought while watching was "the creator is now irreverent about their creation" yeah, pretty much. i kinda like that lana wachowski was just throwing shade or whatever but it's like... why even make it? sure, warner bros would've done it without you, and it would probably have been bland and boring and unnecessary, but i'm not sure a bad movie that only really gets points if you have a poo poo about the creator's personal angst about being asked to make a sequel to one of the most influential movies of all time is any better
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There were quite a few questionable bits, but boy howdy did I hate the bodies jumping out of the buildings. That was so poo poo and unnecessary.
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Gonz posted:A sitcom, but in the Matrix. Seinfeld but in the Matrix.
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I bet the whole pill thing sucks if you're colorblind
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Matrix Awakens was bizarrely better than the actual film, so why not. But don't be fooled: as we know from the piles of tie-in stuff with the last sequels, supplementary material can't actually "fill the gaps" in a narrative. It can only give us more narratives. I think this would actually best though for Animatrix 2. I would rather have more weird side stories than trying to give background on small characters or fill in the history. Obviously, they could use it show what happened to Morpheus or the machine civil war, but I think stories on IO, the matrix video game, exiled programs and machines, or even Sati could be more interesting.
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checkplease posted:I think this would actually best though for Animatrix 2. I would rather have more weird side stories than trying to give background on small characters or fill in the history. Obviously, they could use it show what happened to Morpheus or the machine civil war, but I think stories on IO, the matrix video game, exiled programs and machines, or even Sati could be more interesting. The Animatrix balanced this perfectly and I would hope an Animatrix 2 does the same. Have one or two stories that fill in what happened between Revolutions and Resurrections re: Morpheus/the machines, then have the rest just be cool stories about stuff in the world.
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Speaking of, does this tie in to the MMO story like was theorized?
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Zesty posted:There were quite a few questionable bits, but boy howdy did I hate the bodies jumping out of the buildings. That was so poo poo and unnecessary. The movie suddenly becoming 28 Days / Weeks Later... was definitely one of the odder decisions in an already odd movie.
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unlimited shrimp posted:Speaking of, does this tie in to the MMO story like was theorized? Yes, werewolf jones is an analyst.
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unlimited shrimp posted:Speaking of, does this tie in to the MMO story like was theorized? I don't think it really contradicts it, which is already a huge kindness. Mainly you can more or less square what they say about morpheus with how he was in the game, or so I've heard
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LinkesAuge posted:But that also opens up another can of worms because the film clearly says that AIs are "real" and deserve to be treated as equals to humanity, not doing that was the whole reason why the Matrix exists in the first place. Is the argument now that there is a new "AI slave class"? So are these just dumb NPCs but still manage to be so perfect in their behaviour to fool real humans? moths posted:I think there's some confusion in how the bots are presented - until "swarm mode" turns them into zombies they're equal to and indistinguishable from humans. They're capable of independent thought, and presumably love - yet they're less than human because the author tells us so. Pretty much all of this. I get the subtext (that they are empty societal obligations tying her down to an identity she loathes), but the broader text, for three movies, a spinoff, and several videogames...is that AI are real people, robots are real people, and their memories and personalities are real. To suddenly have NPC's who are fake and disposable with fake memories who turn into zombies feels very jarring. Smith assimilated people, but the movies had the courage to admit that they were still people being blown away. Also it would have been funnier to have them in the background of several scenes silently horrified as their parent/spouse is driving over people with their coder BF.
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"Loathes" is a pretty strong word. Unless I was distracted during some dialog, I didn't get the sense that she loathed her (from what we saw of it) extremely fantastic life. Hated her name, sure. The poster who likened her choice to follow Neo to someone falling down the Qanon rabbit hole nailed it. Her situation is way different than Neo's alienated loner existence in this and the first film, and her breaking free from her shackles reads more like someone joining a cult. It isn't the triumph it's supposed to be.
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It’s her leaving a cult if anything. It’s already been pointed out, but we don’t see any loving family portrayed here like the wachowskis have expertly done with other films. The kids have maybe two lines and it’s only to pull her away, back into the control. And again, when she does decide to leave, her husband tries to murder her. This is a woman going for her dreams. Not the dreams of others.
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When they were planning their Trinity break out, I was kinda disappointed in how they showed them “convincing” one of the robots to help them was to just rip open its head and physically penetrate their brain. What could’ve been a cool visual in showing how matrix AIs gain sentience turned into a standard brain hijack scene.
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