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RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

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Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

The New Yorker finds Jennifer Lawrence's blatant disrespect for our nation's highest general to be nearly as appalling as her haircut. If you find the bridge and tunnel crowd to be a bit too rough around the edges then you will simply hate this film, the commoners portrayed are even more cynical and more outrageous.

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
lol is that real?

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Perry Mason Jar posted:

What's the logic there? I thought RWD was typically reserved for sports cars and the like? To my knowledge RWD is famously horrible for driving on snow or any slick road.

More drive wheels will help you accelerate and prevent you from getting stuck, but your tires are what give you traction. The reason I see so many SUVs in ditches every winter is almost certainly because people blast out of their unplowed driveways and then fail to realize that their lovely all-season tires still suck at braking or cornering in the snow. The best thing you can do to have good traction in the snow is to use snow tires and make sure you have weight over your drive wheels.

For what it's worth, both people I know who do snow plowing as a side gig in the winter have RWD trucks.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

TehSaurus posted:

Is it probe worthy to say that what we need is the boondock saints but for climate crimes? Maybe swap the extrajudicial killings for like hugs or antidepressants.

One might be led to think that, but I couldn't possibly comment.

T-Paine
Dec 12, 2007

Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.

I don't really get emotional about anything anymore but there was an article about this last year accompanied by a pic of the starved corpse of a manatee and it got me good. Starving people? Seen it all before. Starving sea cow? gently caress

Basic Poster
May 11, 2015

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

On Facebook

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Either doesn't have or didn't turn on 4WD, you can see the front tires not doing anything. Actually it's really odd that he apparently only has RWD? What's even going on here?

Because 2WD is cheaper and you can still strut about with your micropenis nothing but a distant memory.

For real, lost of trucks aren't 4WD. It's usually around a 10k price difference new. And in Seattle, it's not that needed of a thing (so they think, that town requires front wheels, awd or 4wd).

The rationale is that trucks are for towing and putting loads in the bed :biglips: so it makes sense to have the drive on the rear. Places that used to never see inclimate weather, 4WDs are just for those that want to go 'muddin. Like all of the south for instance. But yeah, it's not fun trying to push 2000 pounds up a frictionless plane. That's why most cars are front drive. Easier to pull than to push and an engine will always be heavier than the rated capacity of a sedan trunk.

T-Paine
Dec 12, 2007

Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.
https://twitter.com/peoplesdispatch/status/1478773537758351364

T-Paine
Dec 12, 2007

Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.
https://twitter.com/dwallacewells/status/1479573450909958145

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"

Basic Poster posted:

Because 2WD is cheaper and you can still strut about with your micropenis nothing but a distant memory.

For real, lost of trucks aren't 4WD. It's usually around a 10k price difference new. And in Seattle, it's not that needed of a thing (so they think, that town requires front wheels, awd or 4wd).

The rationale is that trucks are for towing and putting loads in the bed :biglips: so it makes sense to have the drive on the rear. Places that used to never see inclimate weather, 4WDs are just for those that want to go 'muddin. Like all of the south for instance. But yeah, it's not fun trying to push 2000 pounds up a frictionless plane. That's why most cars are front drive. Easier to pull than to push and an engine will always be heavier than the rated capacity of a sedan trunk.

Okay hold on now I thought AWD and 4WD were interchangeable marketing terms? They're different?

LionArcher
Mar 29, 2010


Marenghi posted:

Tesla Cybertruck is definitely the one to buy.

No looters can carjack you with it's unbreakable windows, and you'll be able escape the cities in the Hyperloops that will no doubt cover the country by the time things collapse.

waiting for the Toyota EV's to come out, and hopefully be out for a year or two before things fully collapse, so I can have one with solar panels on top and love it for the first month of the collapse before I'm murdered by a gang of incest Maga's who take it from me. (Jokes on them, I'll wire it with a deadman switch triggered by a heart monitor).

McNugget Buddy
Aug 14, 2021

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

T-Paine posted:

I don't really get emotional about anything anymore but there was an article about this last year accompanied by a pic of the starved corpse of a manatee and it got me good. Starving people? Seen it all before. Starving sea cow? gently caress

i felt the same way until some guy, probably in this thread?, posted about how him and his friend as kids used to jump on manatees for fun and one time his friend jumped right into a manatee corpse

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


Rime, Reinventing Collapse is so good

side note, reading the works of native russian speakers is always enjoyable; they seem to write so clearly and demonstrably in English

anyway, this really stood out for the present age, re: believing experts

"Dmitry Orlov. Reinventing Collapse” posted:

The Soviet public’s faith in science and technology was severely shaken by the explosion of nuclear reactor number four at Chernobyl. Not only did the disaster itself expose an obvious lack of technical competence (it was caused, it later turned out, by the technical incompetence of some political appointees), but the lack of truthfulness in addressing the immediate consequences and in communicating the true state of affairs to the public did much to undermine trust in the government, as well as tarnishing the prestige of science and technology overall. Initial public pronouncements that “the reactor core is being cooled” were followed by evidence that there was no reactor core left. Highly radioactive chunks of nuclear fuel and graphite moderator rods that once made up the reactor core were later found scattered around the reactor site. The catastrophe awakened a latent environmentalist sentiment within the population: these were their ancestral lands that were being made radioactive and uninhabitable for generations. Specialists with access to scientific equipment ceased to have faith in the veracity of official government research and began to make and exchange their own measurements of radioactivity and industrial pollutant levels. The results were not encouraging and many started to feel that the Soviet economic development program had to be shut down.

he goes on

quote:

Until 2010, America’s answer to the Chernobyl disaster had been the handling of the humanitarian disaster following Hurricane Katrina in 2005. In 2010, it managed to do one better in the aftermath of the blowout, explosion and massive oil spill at BP’s Deepwater Horizon offshore drilling platform in the Gulf of Mexico. The similarities between Katrina and Chernobyl included a lack of truthfulness in addressing the immediate consequences, loss of ancestral lands and political appointeeism (a horse specialist nicknamed “Brownie” was thrust in command, based on his credentials as the college roommate of a friend of the President). After the hurricane, the government continued to claim that the refugees were being evacuated, while in reality they were herded together, turned back by police and national guard troops when they tried to walk out of the disaster zone and allowed to die. As with Chernobyl, the government continued to lie until there was a public outcry, with much damage to the reputations of all concerned.”

right one more bit

quote:

Given the anemic response of the American political establishment to either of these disasters, this is more likely to be death by a thousand cuts. After each catastrophe, the promise of a technological remedy will begin to seem ever more outlandish, and the person proffering it will come to be seen as progressively less trustworthy. As the authorities lose their legitimacy in the eyes of the population, they will also lose its cooperation.

JAY ZERO SUM GAME has issued a correction as of 23:17 on Jan 7, 2022

kater
Nov 16, 2010

do you want to paint your boat blue or grey to blend in with the ocean and escape the capture yachts?

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

thanks Atacama

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




kater posted:

do you want to paint your boat blue or grey to blend in with the ocean and escape the capture yachts?

that ww1 ship camo

T-Paine
Dec 12, 2007

Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.

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Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Okay hold on now I thought AWD and 4WD were interchangeable marketing terms? They're different?

4WD is what you'll find on most trucks and some of the handful of "real" (ie, truck-based) SUVs still sold in the US. It's usually a part-time system that's essentially RWD with a transfer case that can also send power to the front wheels via a front differential. I'm simplifying a bit, but it's what you want if you're doing serious offroading or actually expect to be on rugged roads. You get guaranteed power to the front and rear wheels for much better traction, but you don't want to use it all the time because you don't actually want equal torque at the front and rear under most circumstances.

AWD systems are a little more complex and distribute power around to each wheel at different ratios. Some fancy trucks have AWD systems with locking center differentials that let them effectively become 4WD, but you'd probably still want a simple and straightforward 4WD vehicle as a true apocalypse wagon.

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Paradoxish posted:

4WD is what you'll find on most trucks and some of the handful of "real" (ie, truck-based) SUVs still sold in the US. It's usually a part-time system that's essentially RWD with a transfer case that can also send power to the front wheels via a front differential. I'm simplifying a bit, but it's what you want if you're doing serious offroading or actually expect to be on rugged roads. You get guaranteed power to the front and rear wheels for much better traction, but you don't want to use it all the time because you don't actually want equal torque at the front and rear under most circumstances.

AWD systems are a little more complex and distribute power around to each wheel at different ratios. Some fancy trucks have AWD systems with locking center differentials that let them effectively become 4WD, but you'd probably still want a simple and straightforward 4WD vehicle as a true apocalypse wagon.

I think Subaru originated AWD

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


TACD posted:

thanks Atacama

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

TACD posted:

thanks Atacama

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

TACD posted:

thanks Atacama

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
huh maybe after don’t look up there will be an apocalypse type marketing trend and we can get all sorts of apocalypse themed products to consume like the zombie stuff!!! :D

T-Paine
Dec 12, 2007

Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.
https://twitter.com/jakespring/status/1479205569814745090

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


test and you’ll find covid, monitor and you’ll find deforestation, etc

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
world leaders promised to reduce illegal deforestation by 2030 and merely a few months after COPE26 brazil just eliminated a huge portion yet you doomers act like there is no solution?!

TehSaurus
Jun 12, 2006

Wait are those just clay furnaces for burning the wood as a waste product?

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Lol she deleted it.

lol!!

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

kater posted:

do you want to paint your boat blue or grey to blend in with the ocean and escape the capture yachts?

Grey for coastal work. Better suited for something that small. Learn where the reefs are and use them to your advantage. (Or ripping your own keel off if you're not a quick learner.)



Real hurthling! posted:

that ww1 ship camo

Dazzle camouflage. Works best if you have a whole fleet small vessels so you can do that constantly-moving-herd-of-zebras thing during a zerg rush / swarming attack. Bonus that it announces to friendly coastal trading communities that the LSD and psilocybin traders have arrived.

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

TehSaurus posted:

Wait are those just clay furnaces for burning the wood as a waste product?

Probably charcoal kilns. But yeah.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

Rime, Reinventing Collapse is so good

side note, reading the works of native russian speakers is always enjoyable; they seem to write so clearly and demonstrably in English

anyway, this really stood out for the present age, re: believing experts

he goes on

right one more bit

Yeah, Orlov made a pretty strong impression on me as a young adult. He's become a but of a regressive chud in later years, sadly, but that book is the basis for my oft-repeated "America by 2030 will look like Russia in the 1990's." claim. Seemed outrageous when I was saying it in 2009, now we're basically already there in a vast swathe of the country.

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


I haven’t got around to looking up what’s he’s up to these days, that’s too bad, but not surprising given the track I’ve seen other people with his background take

Basic Poster
May 11, 2015

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

On Facebook

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Okay hold on now I thought AWD and 4WD were interchangeable marketing terms? They're different?

Someone else made a perfectly serviceable answer above but the distance action isn't clear and has overlap in general. It's like saying quarter, half and full ton trucks. They apply to nothing except numeric rank and are used differently across manufacturers, but the best lay description I can give is:
AWD: found in mid size soccer mom cars and fancyish coups (Audi, bmw etc). These are mostly just on, driver normally can't toggle it. This relys on a lot of closed back control loops with sensors and is real great for people that don't take being a motorist very seriously and don't do very serious things with a car, just want to be safe without having to think (not great).
4WD: driver can turn on or off and select "pretty good" and "kiss my grits". This is for more serious duty things. Normally on trucks or larger SUVs. Costs more. But very much better if you plan on doing anything off road, getting up to the mirrors in water (don't) going through heavy, ice, unplowed snow, covering distance in mud etc.

Neither help you stop and only tires save you from overcoming the static coefficient of lateral friction.

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

Lmao

Raine
Apr 30, 2013

ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER



Blockade posted:

https://www.newyorker.com/the-front-row/the-crude-demagogy-of-dont-look-up

quote:

It’s not only because everyone loves animals, or because movie stars prefer to spend their vacations in the distant wild than in Maricopa County but because it would be impossible to make a film about the suppression of voting rights without considering whose rights are being abrogated, who’s doing so, and which categories of voters supports the measures.

what loving dumbass moron would want to vacation in maricopa county, aka my personal hell Phoenix AZ

aside from that, vote etc democracy jan 6th peaceful protest incremental

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



Perry Mason Jar posted:

Anyway I'm probably gonna get an SUV or truck soon. The window for mitigation has long been blown and those are the only vehicles that'll let me escape floods, bum roads, and major snow events. As an olive branch I promise to drive around and help people who are stranded or stuck.

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Okay hold on now I thought AWD and 4WD were interchangeable marketing terms? They're different?

lmao

"i need a big tough truck, like a jeep grocery master SUV. p.s. what does 4wd mean?"

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

if you can’t toggle your differential lock or use a winch you’re not getting far on washed out roads anyway, the suv is a fantasy

Raine
Apr 30, 2013

ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER



Perry Mason Jar posted:

Okay hold on now I thought AWD and 4WD were interchangeable marketing terms? They're different?

awd is basically "automatic" 4wd with next to no input from the driver, uses sensors for traction to detect when to make the switch from two wheels to four wheels. basically SUVs

4wd is usually manual and gives better traction than awd (so ive heard). usually on trucks

im not a grease monkey or a rich rear end in a top hat who can afford or create a suped up lifted big wheel off roader boulder climber so maybe im wrong

edit: wow i really gotta read posts some time

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Basic Poster
May 11, 2015

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

On Facebook

Pryor on Fire posted:

if you can’t toggle your differential lock or use a winch you’re not getting far on washed out roads anyway, the suv is a fantasy

Oh yeah, get a winch too.

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