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Lol, one of KF’s airplanes was an ex-Gemini tail. One of the two I never touched. And they ended their lives doing what seemingly all DC-10s do to end their lives: flying flowers from South America to Miami.
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Jonny Nox posted:Just discovered this channel: Between KF, Cargojet and the warplane museum Hamilton airport has been a fantastic spot for plane spotting. My drive to work took me past it a decade ago, I got to see the Lancaster cross the road in front of me with its gear down and a 727 with blanked out windows and winglets making a crosswind landing in a storm directly over me. Edit: Check out Google Map’s satellite view of it, there’s five 727s and a DC-10, some with engines removed. Fornax Disaster fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Jan 8, 2022 |
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The Ilyushin IL-18 is a plane I find beautiful for no particular reason, I just really like how it looks. I am apparently alone in this, no one else seems to feel any affection for it.
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Midjack posted:How else were they supposed to move Godzilla where they needed him to be? Bagger 288
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PT6A posted:The Ilyushin IL-18 is a plane I find beautiful for no particular reason, I just really like how it looks. I am apparently alone in this, no one else seems to feel any affection for it. I'm a basic bitch and that era for me is Connie or GTFO.
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stealie72 posted:I'm a basic bitch and that era for me is Connie or GTFO. Gimme dem Big Beautiful Boeings  
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stealie72 posted:I'm a basic bitch and that era for me is Connie or GTFO. That's the coolest/weirdest part: the IL-18's first flight was like six months before the Boeing 707, and it's turboprop-powered. Also it was built until 1985, meaning it started production before the 707 and left production after it, so it's technically part of much later era(s).
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Platystemon posted:Bagger 288 That’s to defeat Godzilla, not move him!
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PT6A posted:The Ilyushin IL-18 is a plane I find beautiful for no particular reason, I just really like how it looks. I am apparently alone in this, no one else seems to feel any affection for it.
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Can I interest you gentlemen in a 1950s airliner? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwDAo7jZLgw
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They had two of these down at the Beaufort (SC) regional airport as part of their mosquito fleet, equipped with spray nozzles. I'd see them parked every year until about 2014; they appeared well-maintained; wonder where they went. e: here's one: 
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https://avherald.com/h?article=4f2a35e6&opt=0quote:A SA Airlink Jetstream JS-41, performing a charter flight from Johannesburg to Venetia Mine, was on approach when a bird impacted the right hand propeller causing one of the blades to separate and penetrate the cabin. The aircraft continued for a safe landing.   
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Nebakenezzer posted:Can I interest you gentlemen in a 1950s airliner? IFL still runs CV-5800s (16ft stretch, C-130 engines, new avionics) out of Miami on the regular.
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IFL is also the first and only operator of the cargo CRJ-200 conversion, which might actually make that a good plane. I want to fly this so very badly
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e.pilot posted:IFL is also the first and only operator of the cargo CRJ-200 conversion, which might actually make that a good plane. That actually really looks nice.
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e.pilot posted:IFL is also the first and only operator of the cargo CRJ-200 conversion, which might actually make that a good plane. The CRJ-200F: Now always at MGTOW! These motherfuckers operate out of Vero Beach (and Melbourne, while Vero is having their runways violenced,) and are a running joke in our area, as the low-altitude sector over Vero (not in our area) always tries to get our high altitude to take a handoff, but the fuckers are climbing at like 400fpm, and never 100 times out of 100 do they even come close to touching our airspace. Watching a low-altitude-only controller fumble with the concept of vertically diagonal airspace boundaries amuses me to no end.
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e.pilot posted:IFL is also the first and only operator of the cargo CRJ-200 conversion, which might actually make that a good plane. Hard to imagine a freighter conversion actually making any plane better to fly so I'm guessing this is more about needing to work for a regional to fly normal CRJs
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BobHoward posted:Hard to imagine a freighter conversion actually making any plane better to fly so I'm guessing this is more about needing to work for a regional to fly normal CRJs There are not enough words to convey how much of a steaming turd the -200 is. That said a lot of the issues with it would be alleviated by not having people in the back. It’ll still climb like absolute dogshit though.
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MrYenko posted:IFL still runs CV-5800s (16ft stretch, C-130 engines, new avionics) out of Miami on the regular. https://flic.kr/p/2mPiLGH Only time I've seen one in person, but what a catch.
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:https://flic.kr/p/2mPiLGH lol wtf is that doing at lunken
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e.pilot posted:There are not enough words to convey how much of a steaming turd the -200 is. That said a lot of the issues with it would be alleviated by not having people in the back. As someone who has spent way too much time squashed into the back of a CRJ-200 (flying out of Albuquerque in the 2000s, if you were on United, CRJ to Denver; if you were on Delta, CRJ to Salt Lake; if you were on US Air, CRJ to Phoenix...), I'd be fascinated to hear what the opinion from up front is on why it sucks, and what could be fixed by the lack of 50 formerly human-shaped piles of meat compressed into Lovecraftian shapes by the cabin.
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e.pilot posted:lol wtf is that doing at lunken Support for the Solar Impulse stop there, along with a Key Lime Air J328. Although I saw one of IFL's regular 580s at Lunken once in 2009 as well.
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Timmy Age 6 posted:As someone who has spent way too much time squashed into the back of a CRJ-200 (flying out of Albuquerque in the 2000s, if you were on United, CRJ to Denver; if you were on Delta, CRJ to Salt Lake; if you were on US Air, CRJ to Phoenix...), I'd be fascinated to hear what the opinion from up front is on why it sucks, and what could be fixed by the lack of 50 formerly human-shaped piles of meat compressed into Lovecraftian shapes by the cabin. https://www2.bombardier.com/Used_Aircraft/en/S_F_Specifications.jsp The lav gets moved up to the front Pack system would actually be able to keep the plane cool CG issues would be no more Boxes don’t care about tiny overhead compartments or lovely windows down by your waist Less related to the plane but more the nature of cargo flying, it’ s mostly one or two leg out and backs, not the shitshow of 4-6 leg days that regional flying consists of Not solved: lol climb rate lol MGTOW service ceiling no leading edge devices and subsequent lol Vrefs no FADEC no VNAV
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Timmy Age 6 posted:As someone who has spent way too much time squashed into the back of a CRJ-200 (flying out of Albuquerque in the 2000s, if you were on United, CRJ to Denver; if you were on Delta, CRJ to Salt Lake; if you were on US Air, CRJ to Phoenix...), I'd be fascinated to hear what the opinion from up front is on why it sucks, and what could be fixed by the lack of 50 formerly human-shaped piles of meat compressed into Lovecraftian shapes by the cabin. - Barely effective air conditioning that was originally designed for 8(?) or fewer people in a Challenger, now trying to quash the heat put out by 50 bodies. Temperatures routinely in the 80's in the summer. (Unlike the simple Challenger stretch that's the 200, the later 700 and 900 were redesigned with proper systems for their airliner job) - uncomfortable seats, both front and back - No autothrottles - No N1 sync - No VNAV that controls the autopilot (there is VNAV that tells you what vertical speed to manually dial in). Not a big deal when you can decide your own descent profile, but a big deal when it comes to arrival procedures with multiple descent restrictions. You have to play this farcical game going back and forth between multiple FMS pages and suggested info on them piecing the information together - Complicated systems control, for example every time you turn the APU on and off (at least 1 cycle per flight) there's this sequence of 4 button pushes, where the later versions you literally touch nothing - Especially with the latest AD, farcically complicated anti ice usage rules. "Forget about it and just leave it all on," you say? Sure that's one way, but in descents you manually have to keep the thrust up to ensure it works (it's powered by bleed air tapped from the compressors) which is often too much thrust and you need speed brakes for the descent. Another area where in the later planes the idle thrust level automatically raises itself so you can just have the levers all the way back and not worry about it; whereas on the 200, you're constantly playing this game of seeing how much you can reduce the thrust without getting an anti-ice not hot enough caution message. This is why you try to avoid using it on descents, generally. - Depending on how cheap your airline is (or the airline yours got the plane from, or the airline that that airline got it from, etc.) only one FMS, so the copilot has to constantly be killing their back reaching over to the captain side - You're too far forward on CG a ton of the time, having to annoy the ground crew by telling them to load ballast, or having to annoy the FA by having them move a passenger to the back (often to 13AB, the blue juice special) Some of these things are prima donna things, but it all adds up. Also I lost track of that you were asking about why a cargo version would be better, while that only applies to some of these. Also I don't really get the common climb rate complaint, the engines do all the work and we don't have to pedal it up there. vessbot fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Jan 9, 2022 |
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vessbot posted:Also I don't really get the common climb rate complaint, the engines do all the work and we don't have to pedal it up there. Depends on where you’re flying, and how anal you are about a non-stop climb. Down here, a -200 is getting tucked under the Cirrus jet and step climbed. Ya, I said it.
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e.pilot posted:IFL is also the first and only operator of the cargo CRJ-200 conversion, which might actually make that a good plane. Somebody crashed a cargo crj in Sweden or something right? Edit: nvm, that was a "package freighter" that didn't have the cargo door cut in it. Arson Daily fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Jan 9, 2022 |
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vessbot posted:Also I don't really get the common climb rate complaint, the engines do all the work and we don't have to pedal it up there. Sucks trying to climb out of weather Sucks trying to avoid weather Fewer options to climb to smooth air Longer time before you can get up to cruise speed No auto throttles or engine sync or FADEC so constantly loving with the thrust levers to maintain peak N1
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Never a bad time for an Antonov. https://twitter.com/AeronewsGlobal/status/1480186494061056002?s=20
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Beef Of Ages posted:Never a bad time for an Antonov. I like the perfectly straight road its wing vortices cut in the fog bank.
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Ardeem posted:I like the perfectly straight road its wing vortices cut in the fog bank. brb, about to tell the FAA about my great plan to eliminate fog problems at airports
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EasilyConfused posted:brb, about to tell the FAA about my great plan to eliminate fog problems at airports Does it involve parachutes and go pros.
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Ardeem posted:I like the perfectly straight road its wing vortices cut in the fog bank. Its like the opposite of a B-52 belching smoke out the back.
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ImplicitAssembler posted:That's a lot of plane spotters! The An-225 is an event. I don't think my family realized that anyone else shared my weird planespotting hobby until we saw basically the whole town of Bangor waiting at the end of the runway for it.
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hobbesmaster posted:Does it involve parachutes and go pros. >pfffft< Nothing so complicated. Just a formation of AN-225s overflying each runway before each let-down.
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Cross posting from the OSHA thread...waffle iron posted:A small airplane did a landing on a rail line. Then later on the plane was hit by a train. Looking forward to that NTSB report.
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Cable Guy posted:Cross posting from the OSHA thread... The body cam video, they got him out of the plane just a few seconds before the train hit it: https://twitter.com/LAPDHQ/status/1480363436311670784?s=20
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