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Should I be terrified that govt of Ontario press briefings are back to “minister on a 2008 era web cam at home” style?
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TheCenturion posted:Should I be terrified that govt of Ontario press briefings are back to “minister on a 2008 era web cam at home” style? "We don't need 1080p, we can save the taxpayer 720p by using 360p. Efficiency!" - Ontario press briefing team
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Jan 11, 2022 18:54
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eXXon posted:I do that except it still fogs up glasses if I'm wearing them, just at different rates depending on the mask and how I shape the nose bar. So I would definitely find some kind of fit testing with a variety of masks useful. I have a bunch of the Powecom KN95s (Mask Nerd gives them around 97% filtration so they're supposed to be legit) and they still fog up my glasses (it's hard to get them to fit right on my exact nose/cheek shape), but I was heartened to learn recently that that doesn't necessarily mean they aren't working. quote:My glasses fog up when I wear the N95. Does this mean that it is not working properly? Definitely gives me more peace of mind than wearing the cloth masks I wore before getting these.
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Jan 11, 2022 19:17
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InfiniteZero posted:"We don't need 1080p, we can save the taxpayer 720p by using 360p. Efficiency!" - Ontario press briefing team Nothing will ever be worse than Dion's loving press briefing on the coalition plans, it looked like a terrorist demand video from a cave somewhere I will be eternally mad at the liberal right-wingers for loving that up so bad edit: actually reading up on it, it was mainly Ignatieff who torpedoed the coalition, Bob Rae and Dion were still very much for it. What a loving prick that guy was. Alctel fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Jan 11, 2022 |
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Jan 11, 2022 19:31
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Lol Legault just announced a tax for the unvaccinated in Quebec. Get ready forrrrrrrr thheeeee ssssshhhhhiitttttsssshhhooowwwww
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Jan 11, 2022 19:44
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 quote:The premier said the unvaccinated "will have a bill to pay because there are consequences on our health-care network and it's not up to all Quebecers to pay for this." This is awesome. 2022 is awesome.
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Jan 11, 2022 19:50
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This is a door I would prefer not be opened. To my mind, it's better to just mandate the vaccine in order to do anything outside your house.
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Jan 11, 2022 19:54
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I mean a mandate ends up looking like restrictions on locations, which Quebec is pretty much out of (zero chance they restrict grocery stores), or a fine, which is going to work out the same as a tax anyway. There's no "the army comes and shoves a needle in your arm" option.
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Jan 11, 2022 20:01
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Alctel posted:Nothing will ever be worse than Dion's loving press briefing on the coalition plans, it looked like a terrorist demand video from a cave somewhere Well, arguably...
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Jan 11, 2022 20:04
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PT6A posted:This is a door I would prefer not be opened. To my mind, it's better to just mandate the vaccine in order to do anything outside your house. Cigarette tax worked. Or make it so they need vaccine to buy cigs. Either way
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Jan 11, 2022 20:57
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If you're unvaccinated, all government services are provided in the wrong language, and you must wear a hijab to enter public property.
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Jan 11, 2022 21:03
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If you're not vaccinated, you have to learn how to properly administer injections, and do community service giving other people vaccinations.
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Jan 11, 2022 21:14
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It's in french, but https://www.lapresse.ca/covid-19/2022-01-11/non-les-personnes-non-vaccinees-ne-sont-pas-toutes-antivaccins.php While tons of unvaccinated are chud antivaxxers, a similarly large amount of hospitalized unvaccinated are people who are unable to access vaccines due to not speaking either official language, being unfamiliar with computers & smartphones, etc. I don't know, this is the kind of decision like the one that led to homeless people getting handed tickets for breaking curfew last year: punishing people who don't necessarily deserve punishment.
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Jan 11, 2022 21:19
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really impressive what they are willing to do instead of just investing in the healthcare system or giving nurses a raise. This is going to backfire so loving bad lol
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Jan 11, 2022 21:21
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Apologies if I missed it earlier, but where are Canadian goons ordering N95 masks from?
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Jan 11, 2022 21:23
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Only ones I could find are here: https://www.homedepot.ca/product/workhorse-n95-approved-disposable-respirator-3-pack/1001627716
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Jan 11, 2022 21:24
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I grabbed a pre-order for a box from Canada Strong (terrible name imo) https://canadastrongmasks.ca/collections/all-canada-strong-face-mask-products Got the Drager ones but the whole selection is constantly rotating in and out of stock so whatever you can get is fine. Shipping a bit expensive but still works out to <$3 per mask.
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Jan 11, 2022 21:29
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UnknownMercenary posted:Apologies if I missed it earlier, but where are Canadian goons ordering N95 masks from? I've ordered both my boxes (roughly a year apart) of N95s from bonafidemasks.com. They're super reputable and extremely competent, with the head of the company personally responding to customer concerns and so forth. Located in New York state in the US, so it takes a little longer due to customs, but that's the only downside, and it's a small one.
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Jan 11, 2022 21:30
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Aoi posted:I've ordered both my boxes (roughly a year apart) of N95s from bonafidemasks.com. They're super reputable and extremely competent, with the head of the company personally responding to customer concerns and so forth. Located in New York state in the US, so it takes a little longer due to customs, but that's the only downside, and it's a small one. I'm located in the US at the moment but this is where I got my genuine KN95s as well, so if they ship to Canada then they're a good option.
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Jan 11, 2022 21:32
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UnknownMercenary posted:Apologies if I missed it earlier, but where are Canadian goons ordering N95 masks from? There's a long thread on redflagdeals for 3M Auras, which seem to be on backorder everywhere now but there are suggestions for alternatives. vyelkin posted:I have a bunch of the Powecom KN95s (Mask Nerd gives them around 97% filtration so they're supposed to be legit) and they still fog up my glasses (it's hard to get them to fit right on my exact nose/cheek shape), but I was heartened to learn recently that that doesn't necessarily mean they aren't working. This seems odd to me - if the fogging is from water vapour you're exhaling, then surely that means the mask isn't filtering properly? If the mask is working properly, then it must be condensation of ambient vapour from your own warm exhaust. Precambrian Video Games fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Jan 11, 2022 |
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Jan 11, 2022 21:32
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Have I got this correct? In order to not mandate the vaccine, they are going implement a tax on the unvaccinated which is going to create a cottage industry of forged out of province vaccination certs? Since this will be tax evasion, the enforcement of which has to be equal or greater cost than the enforcement any mandate might have been? Neoliberalism is just brain worms top to bottom.
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Jan 11, 2022 21:50
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UnknownMercenary posted:Apologies if I missed it earlier, but where are Canadian goons ordering N95 masks from? Cangard is excellent to deal with. Vitacore is supposedly good but they're very slow to ship. Costco has Honeywell n95s that fit big fat heads pretty good and are reasonable quality
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Jan 11, 2022 21:56
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eXXon posted:There's a long thread on redflagdeals for 3M Auras, which seem to be on backorder everywhere now but there are suggestions for alternatives. If your breath is rising up through the filter you can still catch a little on your glasses. A little bit of fog doesn't necessarily mean you have a leak
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Jan 11, 2022 21:57
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fartman posted:It's in french, but Nah gently caress that, Vacchstoßlegende!
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Jan 11, 2022 21:59
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stab posted:Lol Legault just announced a tax for the unvaccinated in Quebec. I do not at all like the precedent this sets. Has anything like this been done before in Canada? Take a medicine or else pay a fine?
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Jan 11, 2022 22:05
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Count Roland posted:I do not at all like the precedent this sets. I'm totally fine with mandatory vaccination.
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Jan 11, 2022 22:21
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Count Roland posted:I do not at all like the precedent this sets. It'll be offset by the money they save from also not going to restaurants, theatres, gyms, etc, I don't get the big deal.
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Jan 11, 2022 22:44
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Count Roland posted:I do not at all like the precedent this sets. Sin taxes on cigarettes were basically the same measure with fewer steps, and they worked great until people started getting shot
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Jan 11, 2022 22:44
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Postess with the Mostest posted:It'll be offset by the money they save from also not going to restaurants, theatres, gyms, etc, I don't get the big deal. Assuming any of those places are enforcing vaccination card checks very well. I don't know if a 16 year old popcorn slinger should be burdened with ensuring public safety at the new Spiderman movie in the first place. My favourite personal vaccination card anecdote is the lady who asked to see my card and then stared very intently at the QR code, as if she was verifying its authenticity with her Terminator vision, which as we know most employees at sandwich shops are likely to have.
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Jan 11, 2022 22:51
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Count Roland posted:I do not at all like the precedent this sets. We tax people with wombs for having them so yes
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Jan 11, 2022 23:02
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UnknownMercenary posted:Apologies if I missed it earlier, but where are Canadian goons ordering N95 masks from? I got mine from Vitacore. You have to basically preorder, but they arrived in Ontario within a few days of their actual ship date. https://shop.vitacore.ca
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Jan 11, 2022 23:03
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eXXon posted:This seems odd to me - if the fogging is from water vapour you're exhaling, then surely that means the mask isn't filtering properly? If the mask is working properly, then it must be condensation of ambient vapour from your own warm exhaust. My reading of that UBC explainer is that when you exhale the pressure buildup inside the mask forces most of the air out through the filter, but can also push the mask out enough that some of it slips through around the edges. If it's slipping through around your nose, it can fog up glasses. But when you stop exhaling and the mask settles back onto your face again, and then inhale creating negative pressure within the mask, it pulls it back onto your face and creates a tighter seal than when you were exhaling, forcing air to come in through the filter. So you can have gaps at the edge of the mask when exhaling that aren't there anymore when inhaling, because of the pressure difference between inhalation and exhalation, and that process can mean that the mask is filtering incoming air at the level it's expected to even if some air escapes around the edges when you exhale.
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Jan 11, 2022 23:13
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lol at that point, what's the harm in using a respirator
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Jan 11, 2022 23:17
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:Only ones I could find are here: https://www.homedepot.ca/product/workhorse-n95-approved-disposable-respirator-3-pack/1001627716 Thank you!
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Jan 11, 2022 23:32
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vyelkin posted:My reading of that UBC explainer is that when you exhale the pressure buildup inside the mask forces most of the air out through the filter, but can also push the mask out enough that some of it slips through around the edges. If it's slipping through around your nose, it can fog up glasses. But when you stop exhaling and the mask settles back onto your face again, and then inhale creating negative pressure within the mask, it pulls it back onto your face and creates a tighter seal than when you were exhaling, forcing air to come in through the filter. So you can have gaps at the edge of the mask when exhaling that aren't there anymore when inhaling, because of the pressure difference between inhalation and exhalation, and that process can mean that the mask is filtering incoming air at the level it's expected to even if some air escapes around the edges when you exhale. That implies that you could be exhaling virions around the mask if you're infected, though, which isn't great. But fine, I take the point that this is still considerably better than nothing. Incidentally, I've tried 3M 8511 masks as well (with an exhalation valve), and they're great around the home for cleaning dusty poo poo (literally cat litter, for example). But with the valve taped closed, it's still not sealing tightly around the nose when exhaling. Comparing that to a random ear loop KN95 I have that folds flat but therefore has a very pointy nose bar that's hard to round out, well, with that one I can feel my breath flowing down the bottom and over my neck when I exhale, not just over my eyes.
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Jan 11, 2022 23:46
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:lol at that point, what's the harm in using a respirator I bought a 3M 6900 Full Face Respirator after the forest fire smoke in BC happened two years in a row, have dual P100 filters on it and it works great... to keep me safe. It has no filtration on exhale. I don't know how most respirators are constructed but I suspect most are for inhalation only. But that respirator was handy to have at the start of the pandemic when few people were even wearing cloth masks and I was walking around Costco with confidence I could be safe.
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Jan 12, 2022 00:47
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Xaranthius posted:I bought a 3M 6900 Full Face Respirator after the forest fire smoke in BC happened two years in a row, have dual P100 filters on it and it works great... to keep me safe. It has no filtration on exhale. I don't know how most respirators are constructed but I suspect most are for inhalation only. I gotta ask, how many people looked at you like a psycho for wearing that around the grocery store? 
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Jan 12, 2022 15:15
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My experience even with a cloth mask at the start of the pandemic is that it was met with stares and outright hostility sometimes (this is like April 2020, so a couple months before even private businesses started to mandate things). I can't imagine what a full face respirator would be like.
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Jan 12, 2022 16:03
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I'm so far beyond caring what people think of the mask I'm wearing. Mind ya business
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Fidelitious posted:I gotta ask, how many people looked at you like a psycho for wearing that around the grocery store? Oh I'm sure there were plenty of stares but I also gave myself a "Robocop" haircut in April 2020 so there was plenty of reason for people to gape at me. See https://imgur.com/a/RUHVvv5 for myself standing in line outside of Costco.
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