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drat Dirty Ape posted:I actually found DNC to be a hard class for me because I end up spending my time staring at my ability buttons looking for procs and miss mechanics. Same, I just have a hard time keeping track of mechanics while maintaining DPS. My dancer is definitely still the go to fun class, but MCH is my other level 90 job and the parses are night and day. MCH has a really solid standard rotation and despite being a little underpowered right now, it's a lot easier to be "good" at it. Ymmv
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Keret posted:For what it's worth, procs can now be separated out into their own bar for quick reference when they're up (called "Conditional Enhancements" under the enhancements/enfeeblements bar). It's been incredibly helpful for me on DNC, BLM, RDM, etc since I don't need to have many buttons showing anymore to track what is available. wait where is this
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Badger of Basra posted:wait where is this Go to the Status Bar HUD element and open up its Options menu, and there should be an option to split it into multiple bars.
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the_steve posted:*stares in Warden of the Seven Hues* I'm three away from big fish... hahaha... hah... haaa.. ahhhh 
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Robo Reagan posted:What's the dps job you can not gently caress up while shitfaced? I'm talking double vision accidentally tabbed out of the Awful app twice while typing this post shitfaced Depends what content you're planning on doing. For most normal content WHM is my go to "There is no way to gently caress this up. DoT, Glare go BRR, and assize off cooldown." Concession + whatever your aoe healing lily spell is more than enough to top everyone off. And if you need to rezz thin air has you covered. When I need to spam content and turn off as many brain cells I always go for WHM.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Is this the only place in ARR where you see that Louis guy? OddObserver posted:Also the opening movie, IIRC This is from a few pages back, but... I always found it odd that despite talking about Louisoix so many times, ARR never actually showed what he looked like, outside of the two above instances. I mean, when Minfilia talks to you about him for the first time, why not either do an Echo scene that's just a remade 1.0 cutscene featuring him, or a few screenshots with the sepia-tone added. That way a player still early in ARR could go "oh, that guy from the starting movie!"
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ok, so I know amon's chapeau is the one true bard hat but have you SEEN the forgiven hat of aiming? Motherfucker's glorious
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hazardousmouse posted:ok, so I know amon's chapeau is the one true bard hat but have you SEEN the forgiven hat of aiming? Motherfucker's glorious I had not, and you ain't lyin'.
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Keret posted:Both NIN and AST are in a kind of weird place where they require a substantial amount of extra work to play compared to the other jobs in their role for the same result, so people are left with the options of either playing them despite this because they like the challenge or the busyness, or else deciding that the extra work just isn't worth it and giving up on the job. That's always been true for AST and NIN. Their whole deal was being the fiddly classes for their roles. Honestly AST is in a better place in comparison to the other healers than it has ever been. They do not need to touch it to make it simpler for people that don't like it. There's already other classes for people that don't like them.
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As an AST main, AST without the extra knobs and whistles is just WHM. I like the high floor/high ceiling style of AST. Plus if you card properly, you'll basically never even consider being out of MP.
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Yeah, I've come to terms with the fact that not all jobs will be viable for all players, so I'm not suggesting they should or shouldn't rework NIN or AST from here, just that this seems like where both jobs are at with regards to the community. That said, I would not be surprised if, for better or for worse, they do both get a further rework because at least according to the last round of numbers I saw, along with MNK they are currently the least popular jobs.
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i feel like ast is waaaay better than whm right now. i played both in shb and got both to 90 and now whm is going in the freezer.
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I think they should remove Lucid Dreaming and just bake it in to the base MP recovery rate.
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Clarste posted:I think they should remove Lucid Dreaming and just bake it in to the base MP recovery rate. Please yes let's give healers even less to actually worry about.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Please yes let's give healers even less to actually worry about. In fairness, "press this button when you reach 50% MP" isn't exactly something to think about. And given AST, SCH and SGE all have MP regen built into their toolkit, it's only fair WHM gets something to help there.
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:In fairness, "press this button when you reach 50% MP" isn't exactly something to think about. And given AST, SCH and SGE all have MP regen built into their toolkit, it's only fair WHM gets something to help there. I think WHM getting more MP from using Assize will probably be the fix. I don't know what they were thinking about thin air in the 6.0 update aside from making Cleric Strike 100% free.
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NJ Deac posted:So with all of the universal praise I've been seeing for Endwalker, I'm considering trying FFXIV out for the first time. I imagine these questions have been covered elsewhere in the thread but I skimmed several pages and didn't see the topic discussed; apologies if these have been answered recently: The game actually doesn’t need to be played like an mmo as you advance. A friend of mine played all of EW completely using the NPC party member option they give you. I think early on it is still a requirement to queue up for the story content that needs you to beat dungeons though
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:In fairness, "press this button when you reach 50% MP" isn't exactly something to think about. And given AST, SCH and SGE all have MP regen built into their toolkit, it's only fair WHM gets something to help there. Never ever having to worry about MP management because lucid is just a constant thing is much less to worry about. WHM needs some more MP management poo poo but that's not what the post I quoted was talking about, they were talking about healers in general.
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Yeah, I'd kind of prefer MP management to be more like "let's make Cure III worth casting literally ever but also make it quite expensive."
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Personally I'd say that MP management should be 'Cure 1/Benefic 1 should be worth casting' but eh.
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Glad you all enjoy the classes I find incredibly stressful I’ll be over here playing bard trying to pay more attention to my procs and buff lineups than avoiding aoe
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Cure III's great if you wanna drop a massive heal on a group right after an equally massive raidwide but you won't often have a group stacked for it below extremes.
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The trick is to find the exact right time to cast Cure III right after a Stack Marker hit resolves or something. If I do it too late everyone runs away before I can cast it and I feel like a giant dunce
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we had someone a while back complaining that reaper had to press their debuff every 30 seconds, remembering to press lucid absolutely contributes to the mental load of healing and removing it isn't a nothing
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cheetah7071 posted:we had someone a while back complaining that reaper had to press their debuff every 30 seconds, remembering to press lucid absolutely contributes to the mental load of healing and removing it isn't a nothing Lucid tells you when to press it by coming off cooldown, reaper's thing has no cooldown and no indication around the vicinity of your hotbar unless you specifically set up debuffs to only show yours and drag it down there if it were just like shadow fang/sonic break/drill, totally fine, but no, it's more like fracture than anything which feels wildly out of place in 2022
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Mister Olympus posted:Lucid tells you when to press it by coming off cooldown, reaper's thing has no cooldown and no indication around the vicinity of your hotbar unless you specifically set up debuffs to only show yours and drag it down there literally every healer has to set up their debuffs in the same way, as does every other class with an unkeepable DoT
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admanb posted:literally every healer has to set up their debuffs in the same way, as does every other class with an unkeepable DoT those are healers and casters, aka things i will never play
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Mister Olympus posted:those are healers and casters, aka things i will never play monk, samurai, bard, paladin
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samurai has it as part of a strict loop, paladin and monk, similarly, has theirs as part of a combo which you can feel out in a better proportion to just a disconnected single button i don't play ranged either yes i am dying on this hill
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Tonight on Heavensward, Sassy Grandmas
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:In fairness, "press this button when you reach 50% MP" isn't exactly something to think about. And given AST, SCH and SGE all have MP regen built into their toolkit, it's only fair WHM gets something to help there. You don't even need to wait until 50% MP, you can just press it on cooldown and it's still doing work as long as you're casting any spells whatsoever.
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Admittedly I don’t play healer on harder content, but I haven’t had more issues with WHM’s MP than I did before EW. I don’t tend to run out unless everything is going wrong to the point I need to be casting Cure II and Medica and raising when I’m out of Thin Air. Lilies are part of MP management because they don’t cost MP and if you have a Lily there’s basically no reason to use Cure II or Medica over a Lily cast. That said, I’ve also been focusing on leveling my DPS first because I find that more irritating than leveling healers, so I haven’t played AST since EW came out.
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Mister Olympus posted:Lucid tells you when to press it by coming off cooldown, reaper's thing has no cooldown and no indication around the vicinity of your hotbar unless you specifically set up debuffs to only show yours and drag it down there Mister Olympus posted:those are healers and casters, aka things i will never play Mister Olympus posted:samurai has it as part of a strict loop, paladin and monk, similarly, has theirs as part of a combo which you can feel out in a better proportion to just a disconnected single button lol
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Glad you all enjoy the classes I find incredibly stressful I’ll be over here playing bard trying to pay more attention to my procs and buff lineups than avoiding aoe This
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I'm remembering now why I left Black Mage at 70 and didn't touch it at all during Shadowbringers. I normally love mages in MMOs but I'm just so bad at Black Mage and it hurts me  I think the major deciding factor in how bad I'm going to be at a job is how many plates I have to keep spinning. I might find Reaper's debuff kinda clunky (every time I have to reapply it, it feels like my momentum comes to a screeching halt) but it's just one plate to spin, and the rest is a nice easy build/spend, so it's no problem. Black Mage, though? Gotta keep up AF/UI, gotta make sure I don't overcap on Polyglots while also probably saving one for movement, gotta keep up Thunder, gotta remember to Sharpcast as many Thunder IIIs as possible so I can guarantee Thundercloud procs, and also if I have to move my brain goes "OH NO" and I instantly lose track of all the timers. It's not a problem with the job. It is very much designed that way on purpose and it's something a lot of people love. It's not you, Black Mage, it's me. Can't wait to get this to 90 and then not touch it again for two years. I will absolutely be leveling 81-90 with trusts so no other players witness my shameful play.
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Mister Olympus posted:samurai has it as part of a strict loop, paladin and monk, similarly, has theirs as part of a combo which you can feel out in a better proportion to just a disconnected single button It's part of a combat rotation for those other classes as well. 30 seconds into my rotation I'm gonna E-Dosis again.
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Harrow posted:I'm remembering now why I left Black Mage at 70 and didn't touch it at all during Shadowbringers. I normally love mages in MMOs but I'm just so bad at Black Mage and it hurts me Same, on all counts.
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Is slamming a thundercloud proc early in the debuff timer even worth loving your rotation? I'm an amateur blm at best but I always preferred to keep my fire windows rolling and only reapply thunder if it was getting near to wearing off. Hitting a cloud proc 5 sec after applying it in the first place never feels worth the GCD
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hazardousmouse posted:Is slamming a thundercloud proc early in the debuff timer even worth loving your rotation? I'm an amateur blm at best but I always preferred to keep my fire windows rolling and only reapply thunder if it was getting near to wearing off. Hitting a cloud proc 5 sec after applying it in the first place never feels worth the GCD yes because when it procs you not only reapply the dot but you get damage equal to the standard potency plus the full dot potency immediately as well. Always smash that proc. For example, thunder 1 does 275 potency to a single target, thunder 2 does 140 to all targets, thunder 3 deals 400 potency to a single target, and thunder 4 does 170 to all targets in addition to refreshing the dots. e: someone can probably correct me, but on a casual glance it seems like regardless of rotation thundercloud procs are your most damaging spells period. fire 4 with astral fire buff might technically do more upfront damage, but the potency amount is lower than procced t3. Foul and Xenoglossy are the only buttons that have more potency on the label than a procced t3's up front damage not even counting the dot. Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Jan 19, 2022 |
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