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Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Devor posted:

Gentlemen, this is haberdashery manifest.

Sir, this is Ye Olde Inn of Mr. MacDonald.

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Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009

NotJustANumber99 posted:

^^^ doesnt mean they arent doing it
You're vastly overestimating the attention to detail of even a competent minister, to say nothing of the calibre within the Johnson government.

The cameras will be off because the whole country is a badly managed piece of crap. The lines are long for the same reason. Whenever you find yourself thinking something is a clever plan by anyone in government, remind yourself about the capabilites of the people in that government.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

NotJustANumber99 posted:

^^^ doesnt mean they arent doing it



Sorry dunno how to put the actual tweet here, when I tried it said I was blocked from somethingawful

Seems like a good bloke

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

This is one of the best owns I've seen, and deserves sharing

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

SixFigureSandwich posted:

Trying to apply for a UK passport for my newborn and lmao this is some bullshit they make you jump through. Apart from the usual documents and photos they require somebody (not family) to verify the child's identity. That person must be a UK national and live in the UK - somewhat tricky for us, as many of our friends are EU nationals, but fair enough. But they also must be employed in an approved profession, and the list looks like it was last updated in the 1960s:

https://www.gov.uk/confirm-identity-online-for-passport-application

Might as well just put up a sign saying 'no poors and foreigners please'

The list always seems weird but my understanding is that it's all people who belong to a professional body where they will have signed a statement confirming their honesty and good character to become a member. As there is a statement of truth involved in that therefore creates a legal obligation to be truthful in witnessing your documents whereas other people would not.

This regularly comes up for me as I am in a relatively senior position in a law firm but I've never actually bothered becoming a qualified solicitor as I'm mostly involved in operational stuff, so I can't witness these sorts of things as I'm not a member of the law society.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Eurgh I hate it when people post jpegs of tweets so I can't click through

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Eurgh I hate it when people post jpegs of tweets so I can't click through

I'm posting how I found it, in JPG form. If you desperately need the link, then maybe hunt for it yourself on Facebook instead of complaining here?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


NotJustANumber99 posted:

How do you know so much about forkboy84?

Clearly not very good at my job :(

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

SixFigureSandwich posted:

Trying to apply for a UK passport for my newborn and lmao this is some bullshit they make you jump through. Apart from the usual documents and photos they require somebody (not family) to verify the child's identity. That person must be a UK national and live in the UK - somewhat tricky for us, as many of our friends are EU nationals, but fair enough. But they also must be employed in an approved profession, and the list looks like it was last updated in the 1960s:

https://www.gov.uk/confirm-identity-online-for-passport-application

Might as well just put up a sign saying 'no poors and foreigners please'

It's incredibly lovely and just the worst kind of british class snobbery. If you're struggling to find someone - it might be different now due to covid but I've seen GP surgeries with signs up at reception offering to verify identity for passports (although it says they shouldn't do that in the guidance, but I guess they know folk find it hard to get done so presumably don't care). Where it says "bank official", I've heard they really don't mind these days and 'anyone who is employed by a bank' will do, even if it's a mate doing call centre or computer touching.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

fuctifino posted:

This is one of the best owns I've seen, and deserves sharing



Dom Joly is a radical centrist extraordinaire with awful opinions and this kind of smug, sneery 'look how much smarter than you I am let me list my many accomplishments' stuff is, imho, unfunny, pretentious, and part of the reason this country is in the mess it is.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Apparently this is bollocks. A mate works for highways agency and says: "Any camera that is in use by an operator will be blanked to the public. Its to prevent accidental broadcasting of deaths, personal information etc.
It's a high traffic area that, with the queues, will need constant monitoring, ergo the cameras are blanked."

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

fuctifino posted:

This is one of the best owns I've seen, and deserves sharing

Are you Dominic?

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

fuctifino posted:

This is one of the best owns I've seen, and deserves sharing



Jesus this has such smug prick #fbpe energy radiating off it.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

I haven't watched or followed any Dom Joly for 15+ years. I didn't realise he was verboten.

I honestly never realised he did other things than comedy 15 years ago.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

Lungboy posted:

Apparently this is bollocks. A mate works for highways agency and says: "Any camera that is in use by an operator will be blanked to the public. Its to prevent accidental broadcasting of deaths, personal information etc.
It's a high traffic area that, with the queues, will need constant monitoring, ergo the cameras are blanked."

Yeah its not true. We deliver to P&O ferries at Dover every week and aside from the first month of proper brexit there hasn't really been any major issue outside of accidents.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

serious gaylord posted:

Yeah its not true. We deliver to P&O ferries at Dover every week and aside from the first month of proper brexit there hasn't really been any major issue outside of accidents.

There was a several miles queue of lorries when I went through dover to France before xmas?

Aren't we currently in the first month of Proper Brexit?

What is a "political producer in parliament" anyway?

So many questions.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
I had no opinions on Dom Joly other than "big phone man not funny", but now I see he is a PPE-brained supermelt, good to know

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

NotJustANumber99 posted:

What is a "political producer in parliament" anyway?

They give them the storylines for the day, who's shagging who, who's getting pissed on, that kinda thing

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

a pipe smoking dog posted:

The list always seems weird but my understanding is that it's all people who belong to a professional body where they will have signed a statement confirming their honesty and good character to become a member. As there is a statement of truth involved in that therefore creates a legal obligation to be truthful in witnessing your documents whereas other people would not.

This regularly comes up for me as I am in a relatively senior position in a law firm but I've never actually bothered becoming a qualified solicitor as I'm mostly involved in operational stuff, so I can't witness these sorts of things as I'm not a member of the law society.

I do like that 'landlord of your local pub' counts.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Bug Squash posted:

You're vastly overestimating the attention to detail of even a competent minister, to say nothing of the calibre within the Johnson government.

The cameras will be off because the whole country is a badly managed piece of crap. The lines are long for the same reason. Whenever you find yourself thinking something is a clever plan by anyone in government, remind yourself about the capabilites of the people in that government.

In London the TfL traffic webcams are regularly turned off at the request of the police or government, certainly whenever there are protests or large-scale police operations in an area covered by them, but also when VIPs or high-profile prisoners are being moved[1], when the blue lorry is rolling[2], and sometimes for no discernible reason[3]. Oh and there's also a deliberate 3-minute delay put on the feeds around Westminster. Just because the people at the top are snorting incompetents, the civil service still has plenty of people with attention to detail and enough reflexive secrecy to realise that lots of journos (and fubpee weirdos) would never think to actually go look, but would definitely sit there with an M20 webcam open to look for evidence of delays.

[1] It's quite funny that they realised running vans full of the (accused) most dangerous people in the country from prisons around London to the Bailey or the Court of Appeal was a bit of a security risk, so they built the new high security remand centre at Belmarsh with video links back to the courts - but judges being the kind of people who think silk gowns and horsehair wigs are appropriate work attire weren't having any of that, so instead we just have one big van moving from one place outside London, with only very limited routes available in to the centre of town. Presumably they hope that the crims never realise that they can just stand on two street corners in Thamesmead to work out when the van leaves and the way it's going Also of course they shut down the cameras for the Royals going out for a spin; maybe one day we'll have at least one of them in the back of one of those vans, too.
[2] This is one of those weird things that anyone in central or east London will have seen multiple times but apparently they'd never bothered to think more about how weird it is that at least once a week a 7.5T lorry in royal blue drives from somewhere in the City to somewhere out on the A12/A13 corridor, escorted by four marked police bikes, 2 or 3 armed response units, and normally a couple of unmarked Range Rovers too. Like if you commute by car or bus in east London you'll get stopped by police at least once a month to let it past. It's *probably* moving used banknotes from the Bank of England out to the De La Rue plant in Debden for destruction (it only ever seems to be escorted on the way out of London, not back in), but the van's also been seen coming out of various other buildings in the City and around Whitehall, so it might also be other stuff going out to Debden for destruction or possibly to the reputed long-term storage facility near Billericay.
[3] I mean it's possible the camera covering the Vauxhall Cross junction is just particularly unreliable, but it does seem to have a weird pattern of breaking for a couple of hours then coming back, completely unrelated to large windowless vans or unmarked green Land Rover Defenders going in and out of MI6.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Dom Joly introduced my band (bassist was some vague relative) at a thing one time back when he was theoretically still riding high off the back of Trigger Happy and let me tell you, a big room full of teenagers was anything but impressed.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

a pipe smoking dog posted:

The list always seems weird but my understanding is that it's all people who belong to a professional body where they will have signed a statement confirming their honesty and good character to become a member.

I count as a local government officer for purposes of verifying identity and I never signed anything. It's just twattery.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

feedmegin posted:

I do like that 'landlord of your local pub' counts.

Presumably they count because they are licensed.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
i signed the official secrets act when i was a postman

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Aren't we currently in the first month of Proper Brexit?

Nope lol.
July 1st 2022 is next timelime.
Businesses must fulfil new requirements for Export Health Certificates, as well as complete Safety and Security declarations on imports. Phytosanitary Certificates and physical checks on Sanitary and Phytosanitary goods at Border Control Posts will also commence on 1 July 2022.

1st Jan 2022 was when the UK couldn't delay any further of full customs declaration and paying any customs duties.

And remember there was a survey done around the 1st that said only 33% of UK businesses were ready for it.
In July all the cameras will be blank and supermarkets will be 95% cardboard pics of food.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

I was thinking - if there was ever a week for Boris Johnson’s ex wife, who he cheated on while she got chemo , and his children, who all hate his guts, to stick the knife in - then this is that week.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

i signed the official secrets act when i was a postman

Lol I had to do that when I worked as a janitor/retail dogsbody for a heritage org. I guess it's just standard practice for all public sector jobs but I did find it funny overkill.

jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost

Yeah this is a ridiculous thing, but AFAIU it's just a list of various official bodies which have lists of the names and addresses of people who therefore can be considered to officially exist. So when you say "hello my name is so-and-so and I live at 123 Bollocks Drive", they can then confirm that with the Worshipful Company of Scriveners or whatever.

If you know any freelancers who have their own limited company, they'll be a company director (of their one-person company) and therefore on the official Companies House list, and that should be good enough for this. This kind of freelancing is relatively common among computer wankers for example

(e: typos)

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Still hilarious that Dom Joly went to school with Bin Laden though.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
dragon school?

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/DrSarteschi/status/1484615343163199491

Who knew that a crime reference number is the same as a court judgement?

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

ThomasPaine posted:

Dom Joly is a radical centrist extraordinaire with awful opinions and this kind of smug, sneery 'look how much smarter than you I am let me list my many accomplishments' stuff is, imho, unfunny, pretentious, and part of the reason this country is in the mess it is.

yeah that whole thing he did could easily be countered with "your still a oval office m8"

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

fuctifino posted:

https://twitter.com/DrSarteschi/status/1484615343163199491

Who knew that a crime reference number is the same as a court judgement?

It gets better:

https://twitter.com/BadVaccineTakes/status/1484556238759370757

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

One thing I don't understand is why the police aren't arresting these nutters who are trying to "arrest" them. If anyone at any vaguely left wing protest tried this they'd get their heads kicked in by the filth.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

a pipe smoking dog posted:

One thing I don't understand is why the police aren't arresting these nutters who are trying to "arrest" them. If anyone at any vaguely left wing protest tried this they'd get their heads kicked in by the filth.

Same reason that the far right are often left alone or just given "escorts".

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Lmao

Absolutely unhinged.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
i wish i'd been there, i would have arrested that polis for not arresting that man for trying to arrest him :mad:

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Im glad you weren't. You would have gotten kettled, tear gassed, picked up by and un marked van and woken up in Rwanda with your citizenship revoked

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
nah i have very light skin

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NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
why not white?

the guy in the video is black.

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