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Crusader Kings 3: Now we're talking
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# ? Jan 20, 2022 02:06 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 19:56 |
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That's insane. Also props to the CK3 team for having such a malleable game. E: PittTheElder posted:Crusader Kings 3: Now we're talking THE BAR fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Jan 20, 2022 |
# ? Jan 20, 2022 11:31 |
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Hellioning posted:From the makers of "What if you could play CK3 battles in Mount and Blade Bannerlord?": I'm shocked this hasn't blown up with people talking about it. Even with the chance of it being fake or lovely, it's still a loving insane example of how AI Dungeon style applications of GPT-2 could affect real rear end games.
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# ? Jan 21, 2022 14:17 |
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I got this finishing up a CK2 campaign the other day:
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# ? Jan 23, 2022 17:15 |
Pretty cool undeadifying tech here for EK2. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749107944733278389/934850004969996369/Attredbus.webm
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# ? Jan 23, 2022 18:26 |
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Anno posted:Pretty cool undeadifying tech here for EK2. This is sick and in a few years the mods for this game are going to be insane
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 00:37 |
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I just hope we get some mods (or ideally real updates) that change up the gameplay to make it more historical. Like I fired up the game as Byzantium just to look around at how the cultures were set up, and the way the empire is modeled as a Norman feudal kingdom is just sad. I want to see centralized taxes, salaries for the notables, appointing officers to lead the standing army, civil wars over who gets to reign in place of the child emperor, and actual opponents in the east. Like yea by 867 the Abbasid Caliph is not what it once was, but it still took a century and a half for the Romans to secure control over Syria and Armenia. Meanwhile in the game you can just walk all over them right from the get go. E: territorial gain is just hideously easy in this game, I don't really know where to start with fixing that. PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Jan 25, 2022 |
# ? Jan 25, 2022 00:54 |
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Seconding the alternate rulership thing, my last run was a ironman (the only way I can play, to stop myself from scumming) run where I started as a nobody-count and got my kid on the throne, only to find out that Byzantium is nothing special. I feel cheated, as if those evil devs *knew* I would assume that feature would have carried over from ck2, the rotten sods.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 01:00 |
A new Catholic-focused mod launched today: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2730456007 Investiture, anti-popes, college of cardinals, that kind of stuff. Looks like it was a system spun out from the Kingdom of Heaven overhaul.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 01:00 |
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PittTheElder posted:I just hope we get some mods (or ideally real updates) that change up the gameplay to make it more historical. Like I fired up the game as Byzantium just to look around at how the cultures were set up, and the way the empire is modeled as a Norman feudal kingdom is just sad. The answer to the first part of your post, about wanting CKIII to model other types of governances and similar, has a complex answer for the “why” but I do think they want to add things like that into the game. The second, that taking land and gaining power is easy, is for two reasons. First, the game is designed to allow characters to build up to high titles and lots of land quickly - but the death of that character will fracture their holdings. This changes with the later years as power centralizes but is still generally true. Second, the AI is controlled by the traits of the character whereas the player is under no obligation to roleplay. If your goal is to paint the map with your coat of arms, you will quickly find that there’s not much resistance to that in the game. Try setting different goals, like having every king in Iberia be of your dynasty while you control all of France, or similar.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 01:20 |
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I mean that's not particularly hard either. Part of the problem is just that the AI is completely inept at warfare so it's not going to put up any resistance to whatever you want to do. Outside of the opening decades of single county starts there's very little risk of losing a war. To draw on my Roman muckings, I'd say an actual goal would be "ally with the Magyars and convince them to come wreck Bulgaria". The problem is that the faith rules makes that completely unworkable, and also why would you bother given how passive the AI is?
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 02:37 |
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Yeah I fully expecpt the Byzantines to get a flavor pack that gives him something more akin to their historical behavior, because it's an obvious missed opportunity and because Paradox is full of byzantophiles who refuse to let it not exist and be relevant in their games.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 02:55 |
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I mean more than anything what I want is to see something like the loss of Anatolia. And not because a bunch of Seljuks conquered it in a big war (they didn't), but because of a raging civil war that sees the Roman commanders turning over territory in order to secure Turkish fighters. That's the cool poo poo I want to see in this game, not "hard-coded no civil war until 1091 lol" I'm surprised it wasn't actually the first expansion tbh, for all the reasons you say. Swedes are gonna Viking tho.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 03:39 |
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Its been a while since I played but I don't really have a problem with how easy it is to take territory but it should be a lot harder to hold it. There should be a lot more independence wars in general, especially if you aren't the de jure ruler of a vassal
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 04:00 |
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I just want regencies back, it's silly that a one year old makes all the decisions in his kingdom, and figuring out who to entrust the regency to was a fun thing.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 09:27 |
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pidan posted:I just want regencies back, it's silly that a one year old makes all the decisions in his kingdom, and figuring out who to entrust the regency to was a fun thing. you mean "Watching as every law change you made is undone without any ability to do anything about it because your mom is suddenly not the regent anymore for some reason"? I think every regency I ever had was just closing my eyes and waiting to hit 18. Wasn't much to do during one, and they'd generally wreck everything out of nowhere. I don't mind them in theory, but in practice, oof.
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# ? Jan 26, 2022 23:24 |
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I mean I wouldn't even hate that, as long as changing it back is limited by characters that would stop you and not "this can only be changed once per lifetime" e: Also there's a modding dev diary. https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/ck3-dev-diary-87-royal-modding.1507899/ PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Jan 26, 2022 |
# ? Jan 26, 2022 23:28 |
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PittTheElder posted:I mean I wouldn't even hate that, as long as changing it back is limited by characters that would stop you and not "this can only be changed once per lifetime" Gay marriage as a game rule has already made some people REAL loving MAD too. Get your popcorn, guys!
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# ? Jan 26, 2022 23:51 |
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Midnight Voyager posted:Gay marriage as a game rule has already made some people REAL loving MAD too. Get your popcorn, guys! It's that they are just adding it in as a base game rule after they broke the stuff that let you kludge it together. Nice to finally not have to resort to that.
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# ? Jan 26, 2022 23:54 |
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Eimi posted:It's that they are just adding it in as a base game rule after they broke the stuff that let you kludge it together. Nice to finally not have to resort to that. Yeah that's not why they're mad, people are screaming about historical accuracy like they always do when Paradox lets you do anything fun.
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# ? Jan 26, 2022 23:58 |
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Midnight Voyager posted:Yeah that's not why they're mad, people are screaming about historical accuracy like they always do when Paradox lets you do anything fun. They should double down and make it so you get gay married by Aztec priests, then.
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# ? Jan 26, 2022 23:59 |
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Midnight Voyager posted:Gay marriage as a game rule has already made some people REAL loving MAD too. Get your popcorn, guys! You seem overly excited about outrage that barely exists. Most people seem really stoked on the same-sex marriage rule being included.
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# ? Jan 27, 2022 00:07 |
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How is the inheritance going to work with Gay marriage? Do you need nieces/nephews or is there some formal adopt a heir system?
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# ? Jan 27, 2022 00:13 |
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There are definitely some people mad enough to post in the dev diary thread about how they don't like that it's been added. They're also vastly outweighed by the people in favour of it.
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# ? Jan 27, 2022 00:14 |
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adhuin posted:How is the inheritance going to work with Gay marriage? My read is that there's no adoption system. You'll need to find heirs from other branches of the family, or previous marriages, or have some bastards on the side to legitimise. Or if your religion allows concubinage or polygamy that can give you direct heirs while also being married to a same-sex partner.
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# ? Jan 27, 2022 00:17 |
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adhuin posted:How is the inheritance going to work with Gay marriage? Inheritance can certainly pass to your siblings if you don't have children of your own. And there's no adoption system in the game, though it's certainly possible to mod one in, the extant Byzantine mod does this.
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# ? Jan 27, 2022 00:21 |
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PizzaProwler posted:You seem overly excited about outrage that barely exists. I found this when Steam notified me of a new dev diary and the comments were a warzone for fifteen pages. (Not that I read all of them, I just glanced and oof) I'm stoked for the feature myself. PittTheElder posted:Inheritance can certainly pass to your siblings if you don't have children of your own. it's not terribly related, but so does the Vampire mod. Adoption seems pretty doable as a mod in general.
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# ? Jan 27, 2022 00:38 |
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Same rando was raging about gay marriage in the steam forum. Down to posting that it’s anti straight bigotry to not allow a “no homosexuals at all” game rule. And complaining about the whites only stellaris mod getting removed being racist against straight whites.
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# ? Jan 27, 2022 00:53 |
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Same rando was raging about gay marriage in the steam forum. Down to posting that it’s anti straight bigotry to not allow a “no homosexuals at all” game rule. Yeah it's nice how Steam informs me of the dev diaries when they come out, but it also means a whole lotta this. Nice to see the account bans fall though, because they do at least have SOME moderation.
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# ? Jan 27, 2022 00:56 |
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so here's a weird edge case I came across: the Kingdom of Italy got formed out of nowhere by a populist revolt, then its peasant king lost a Liberty War and abdicated. Since he didn't have any heirs, I guess it just passed directly to the head of the Liberty Faction? lucky for her, I guess on my next run, another populist revolt formed the appropriately coloured Kingdom of Pis(a):
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# ? Jan 31, 2022 00:34 |
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Gato posted:the appropriately coloured Kingdom of Pis(a): See a doctor.
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# ? Jan 31, 2022 05:24 |
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8 days left. The paradox grand strategy channel released two tutorials for mechanics in royal court, they have some juicy spoilers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7z1OVhV4HI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Q8WCuhgXY Some nice benefits from amenities-- The unique artifacts seem bonkers good. But that's not even the best one
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# ? Jan 31, 2022 17:16 |
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Effortless +25 vassal limit is pretty nice.
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 09:41 |
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Is all the information about culture changes compiled in one place anywhere?
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 14:08 |
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Here's what I really care about : the new achievements! https://www.crusaderkings.com/en/pc...0220201_cawe_dd
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# ? Feb 3, 2022 18:02 |
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I just noticed that Royal Court is already in my library but I have no memory of pre-ordering it. Genuinely mysterious.
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# ? Feb 4, 2022 11:02 |
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Maybe you bought the release bundle that includes the first expansions? I sure did.
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# ? Feb 4, 2022 11:06 |
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Oh yeah, it must be something like that. I definitely pre-ordered the base game but I don't remember buying any kind of fancy special edition because I never usually do that. Oh well, pretty cool to get it for "free".
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# ? Feb 4, 2022 11:38 |
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SlothBear posted:Is all the information about culture changes compiled in one place anywhere? Probably not exactly what you are looking for but I found this video interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0i4oRvrFjE I am really looking forward to this expansion, looks very good!
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# ? Feb 4, 2022 11:41 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 19:56 |
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fuf posted:I just noticed that Royal Court is already in my library but I have no memory of pre-ordering it. Genuinely mysterious. Yeah if you look up the Royal Edition package on Steam it lists the components, one of which is Royal Court, and one of which remains an unannounced placeholder.
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# ? Feb 4, 2022 18:26 |