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Dreddout posted:Living out in the sticks without access to quality healthcare, education, and employment didn't feel very liberating to me but maybe your experience is different. yes everything under a hypothetical planned economy will exist and be administered exactly as it is now. if I were in charge, clinics and distant community college outposts would be prioritized the same as any other medical or educational endeavor and there'd be plenty of jobs replanting and maintaining millions of acres of forests
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Jan 27, 2022 01:48
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If i was in charge i would first and foremost liquidate the kulak
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Jan 27, 2022 15:16
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GalacticAcid posted:If i was in charge i would first and foremost liquidate the kulak now you’re talking my language 
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Jan 27, 2022 15:27
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Love me some lenin He was a good man.
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Jan 27, 2022 18:13
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GalacticAcid posted:If i was in charge i would first and foremost liquidate the kulak who burnt your cornflakes? The Voice of Labor posted:each housing unit consisting of the housing unit and 5x the area of the housing unit in arable land that works out to, like, a 3/4 acre plot for a single family house and a 2-3 acre plot for a small apartment complex. that ain't manor houses and estates, that's about the minimum spacing necessary so that everyone can have a garden, maybe raise some chickens or algae or something, and the kids can have trees to climb. hell, just getting rid of parking lots would do a healthy percentage of that rezoning in a lot of our sprawlier areas
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Jan 28, 2022 02:35
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Communism is a classless, tasteless society
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Jan 28, 2022 02:54
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SorePotato posted:Communism is a classless, tasteless society "Socialism is when I can't use the HOA to make my neighbor's house conform to my standards"
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Jan 28, 2022 02:56
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GalacticAcid posted:If i was in charge i would first and foremost liquidate the kulak Soylent Grain
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Jan 28, 2022 03:02
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Homeless Friend posted:Soylent Grain Soviet Soylent would be a good username
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Jan 28, 2022 04:44
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SorePotato posted:Communism is a classless, tasteless society I mean, why do all communist movements dream about concrete cubes and drab clothing? What's wrong with nice clothes and wooden buildings?
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Jan 28, 2022 07:07
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Fish of hemp posted:I mean, why do all communist movements dream about concrete cubes and drab clothing? What's wrong with nice clothes and wooden buildings? Well for one concrete cubes are better than literal homelessness Also we are too dependent on timber as it is
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Jan 28, 2022 07:11
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concrete is cool brutalism is correct gently caress you we'll do it nice when capitalism is over get to it
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Jan 28, 2022 07:34
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brutalist sucks and so does concrete
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Jan 28, 2022 08:00
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Centrist Committee posted:brutalist sucks and so does concrete Centrist committee eh
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Jan 28, 2022 08:52
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concrete is bad environmentally, but brutalist architecture doesn't need to use concrete. brutalism isn't rly philosophically possible anymore tho 😔
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Jan 28, 2022 09:02
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Essential writings (preferably easy to read) for someone who believes in communism basically but hasn't read the theory? It doesn't have to 'ease them in' as in they aren't afraid of the word communism. They read the manifesto and asked me for some recommendations and I'm probably missing some. Particularly stuff after Mao, or from the third world.
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Jan 28, 2022 09:10
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Concrete is terrible for the environment. even wood, for all the cutting down of trees, is much better
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Jan 28, 2022 09:30
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you build a shitload of really good housing, and then you don't construct it again for 75 years. I still think concrete makes sense on the presumption that you're building to last rather than for profit. Basically I lived in a school dorm that was designed by a prison architect in the 60s and want everything to not be loving 5 over one glass and chrome hotel rooms.
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Jan 28, 2022 10:10
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Mr. Lobe posted:Concrete is terrible for the environment. even wood, for all the cutting down of trees, is much better we should be making skyscrapers out of wood 
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Jan 28, 2022 11:38
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Fish of hemp posted:I mean, why do all communist movements dream about concrete cubes and drab clothing? What's wrong with nice clothes and wooden buildings?
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Jan 28, 2022 13:56
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Dreddout posted:Well for one concrete cubes are better than literal homelessness That may be so, but majority of western population isn't literally homeless. What does communism offer for them? What is the point of controlling your surplus production If you can't exchange that for nice home and clothes?
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Jan 28, 2022 15:52
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:we should be making skyscrapers out of wood I would posit we should not be building skyscrapers probably
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Jan 28, 2022 16:03
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Fish of hemp posted:That may be so, but majority of western population isn't literally homeless. What does communism offer for them? What is the point of controlling your surplus production If you can't exchange that for nice home and clothes? Communism is something one strives towards. its never actually existed. Socialism exists and it may or may not have characteristics that spring from the material circumstances of the region it is growing out of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4QYkEpw9pA Concrete is what the soviets had on hand, it also allowed them to build at the scale that was necessary for the workforce. Everything can be beautiful. Mr. Lobe posted:I would posit we should not be building skyscrapers probably https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PilJj0TR_xk I've been watching a lot of construction youtube recently. Southpaugh has issued a correction as of 16:54 on Jan 28, 2022 |
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Jan 28, 2022 16:48
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Fish of hemp posted:That may be so, but majority of western population isn't literally homeless. What does communism offer for them? What is the point of controlling your surplus production If you can't exchange that for nice home and clothes? Survival. Also dignity, but at this point survival might be the bigger deal.
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Jan 28, 2022 16:52
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At this point, I'd be happy to buy a pair of shoes that don't fall apart after a year. My shoes didn't do that up until the mid to late Aughts, and now they're just trash. Durable, replaceable, repairable things in my life would make me very happy. Also, how about software that's actually engineered and not just cobbled together haphazardly?
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Jan 28, 2022 18:23
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Out of sheer bitterness, I'd like to see the concept of thousand-dollar t-shirts and hoodies obliterated. All clothing must be at least as durable as what I can buy at Tractor Supply or off to the gulag with you.
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Jan 28, 2022 18:28
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A communist government could completely transform American urban planning and get us off of the pathological pursuit of car culture.
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Jan 28, 2022 18:32
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you can make concrete pretty cleanly but capitalism can't because it's more expensive than the usual process also brutalism largely grew out of new construction techniques and materials that allowed for buildings that looked like that, and a large part of its appeal was involved with how cutting-edge it was, in a lot of the same way that the (now) really gauche color schemes really popular in the 50s-70s were so popular because it was fueled by the now-possible mass production of eg. plastics in those colors. It's no wonder they both look old and ugly to most people today. Fish of hemp posted:That may be so, but majority of western population isn't literally homeless. What does communism offer for them? What is the point of controlling your surplus production If you can't exchange that for nice home and clothes? communism will not be possible in the west until living conditions get much worse, to the point that base survival trumps any dream of a three car garage and sick bapestas. the good news is that things are definitely going to get much, much worse and we'll either get real communism or humanity will go extinct
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Jan 28, 2022 20:00
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"Brutalism" isn't even grim and dour; the name comes from a sort-of joke on the French for "bare concrete." 95% of what online Anime Nazis denounce as Brutalism isn't Brutalism at all, it's just any institutional building that doesn't have flying buttresses or whatever the gently caress they fetishize besides children.
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Jan 28, 2022 20:05
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To participate in the derail a bit, a Chinese photographer, Xiao Yang, made a series of photographs of Yugoslavia's brutalist monuments and architecture. e: Link below is just for the pictures themselves, there's probably a better place to look at them somewhere https://www.diyphotography.net/photographer-captures-magnificent-photos-of-abandoned-concrete-monuments-around-ex-yugoslavia/
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Jan 28, 2022 20:19
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MoMA had an exceptional exhibition on Yugoslav architecture a few years ago. There’s some pics and vid and program notes online -> https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/3931
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Jan 28, 2022 20:49
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I used to use the Valley of Heroes monument as my Zoom background; a Croatian professor got a kick out of it.
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Jan 28, 2022 21:05
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Halloween Jack posted:Out of sheer bitterness, I'd like to see the concept of thousand-dollar t-shirts and hoodies obliterated. All clothing must be at least as durable as what I can buy at Tractor Supply or off to the gulag with you. staring too long into the clothing abyss owns.
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Jan 28, 2022 21:17
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Under communism everyone will wear jean jackets, thus causing all women to become lesbians. Utopia is possible
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Jan 28, 2022 21:20
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:A communist government could completely transform American urban planning and get us off of the pathological pursuit of car culture. This is going to be amazing.
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Jan 28, 2022 21:31
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:also brutalism largely grew out of new construction techniques and materials that allowed for buildings that looked like that, and a large part of its appeal was involved with how cutting-edge it was, in a lot of the same way that the (now) really gauche color schemes really popular in the 50s-70s were so popular because it was fueled by the now-possible mass production of eg. plastics in those colors. It's no wonder they both look old and ugly to most people today. yah communism looks forward so new architectural forms will almost certainly be living towers or some other reconstruction of humanity and nature. brutalism is cool the way gothic cathedrals are cool, but concrete is a really alien material. like yeah let’s take the boundless wonder of sand and make it into a material that seems like it should be rock but behaves completely differently. or, in the case of roads, let’s take the softness an innate positive attachment of the beach and make it into a material that is coarse and viscerally unpleasant to touch.
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Jan 28, 2022 21:41
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:you can make concrete pretty cleanly but capitalism can't because it's more expensive than the usual process How?
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Jan 28, 2022 22:05
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Mr. Lobe posted:How? Most of it is related to the cement manufacturing process: they type of kiln you're using and especially how you're heating it (overwhelmingly coal, right now), various additives you can add to or with the limestone to reduce how much co2 it produces, and iirc (it's been a while) there are ways to pretreat the limestone so it doesn't produce so much co2. You're never* going to get it fully clean but you could make a pretty significant dent if you were willing to spend extra money to produce the exact same (or very slightly weaker in the case of some of the additives) product *apparently there are carbon neutral or even carbon negative techniques that involve carbon capture and storage into the cement medium but they're experimental and expensive
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Jan 28, 2022 23:26
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Fish of hemp posted:I mean, why do all communist movements dream about concrete cubes and drab clothing? What's wrong with nice clothes and wooden buildings? because that’s what you have and are capable of achieving through industry, electrification, etc. to provide for millions in short time scales.  book: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cement_(novel) that’s what you had and what you were doing, so you’re kind of trying to get people enthusiastic about actual possibilities for massive advancements measured in five-year sprints. or something along those lines i think. tip for agile socialists: don’t be the first to sit down after morning standup.
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Jan 28, 2022 23:39
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Marxism-Todoism 🔨 ✅
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