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Actually, now that Endorph brought up Anno and women I remember reading about Anno telling the director of In this Corner of the World about the main character "What a woman, doing nothing. I wanted to strangle her". Does he have issues with women? https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2016-12-09/evangelion-anno-criticizes-in-this-corner-of-the-world-heroine/.109703 Willo567 fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Jan 28, 2022 |
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Nate RFB posted:I finished the Starlight movie and thus all of Revue Starlight and if I'm honest it kind of helped me internalized something that had been bothering me about the end of the series and that the movie had doubled down on, namely that after a point it stopped feeling a story and cast of characters that had something to contribute to a story or any any real character development and instead was more content to have abstract spectacle and characters who might as well not exist in the same scene despite them yelling and fighting one another. I enjoyed it a lot early on with the Mahiru and Banana episodes being probably my favorites because it felt like they had some really strong arcs that worked in a near vacuum. But once it got to the endgame and had to find an excuse for the final conflicts it just sort of felt like it turned into world salad where people just yell "Butai!" over and over again as well as putting the onus on a character like Hikari to drive everything forward which just doesn't really work all that well for me when she's such a blackhole of personality. I think you missed a lot of what the movie was trying to say. It being a bit disconnected is the point, I think--it's about what you do when the role that defines you life is over. I've spent far too many hours of my life trying to dissect the revstar movie, so here's some far-too-detailed thoughts on the subject. A lot of it isn't even really in response to your post, I just wanted an excuse to write a lot of words. In each of the revues except Karen and Hikari, you have a costumed section and a section in their normal outfits. The parts in costumes are the roles that they play--Kaoruko and Futaba are in a rocky but fundamentally sound relationship. Maya is the goddess of the stage who is hounded but unperturbed by Claudine's rivalry. Hikari and Mahiru are in competition for Karen's heart. The parts in their normal outfits are their true selves laid bare--Kaoruko and Futaba's relationship is unhealthy and dysfunctional and they have no choice but to break up. Maya is a jealous, arrogant, petty person who depends on Claudine to give her the competition she needs to strive for new heights. Mahiru just hates Hikari, but hates that she hates her, and does her best to overcome that part of herself. Notably, the roles are all what the show depicted them as. There were hints of the deeper selves, because it's a well-written show, but ultimately the movie adds a new layer onto each of them by stripping away the wholesome ending each character got and showing the real person underneath. In some sense, it's a repudiation of parts of the show. The theme comes to a head in the Karen and Hikari revue. Where you could see there being a show on the continuing adventures of Maya, or Nana, or Kaoruko, there's just nothing left to Aijou Karen after she fulfills her promise. The character, the role she's playing, is over, and when she's asked to resume the role where she left off, she just loving dies. But, as the movie repeats about a billion times, there's always the next stage. Karen can't be the promise-fulfilling starlighter anymore, but a new Aijou Karen, on a new stage, can and must exist. There's also a throughline of a sort of weird meta-commentary on the nature of sequels. The first revue, where Nana just destroys them all, is just her saying "the sequel's started. what are you doing. get into character already." Throughout the movie, you see bits and pieces of the characters backstage (notably, never in costume). The audience (represented on-screen by the giraffe) wants more revue starlight, but in each revue, the girls can't help but break character and assume new roles, because (as is emphasized over and over in both the show and movie), you can't ever stand on the same stage twice. A revstar sequel must feature a new version of each character, instead of being a mere continuation of the same characters. In the final revue Karen turns to the audience and tells you that your expectations are stifling and scary. I wish I could have been in a theater with surround sound to hear that moment. All the scenes about Karen's past are there because she's the character who needs the most work to turn her "real". In the show she's sort of one-dimensional. I call her a promise-fulfilling robot. The movie goes through and dismantles that facade piece by piece, ending on a moment where she cracks and can't help but break her own expectations of herself--but then, when the subject comes up later, she lies, because Karen the promise-fulfilling robot is a role she's playing, just like everybody else is playing a role. Ah! It's so good!!!
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Mister Facetious posted:I don't remember what Subaru grills look like as i don't see them very often. meanwhile at the competitor's Magical Ford isekai adventures https://i.imgur.com/0hMwyap.mp4
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cheetah7071 posted:I think you missed a lot of what the movie was trying to say. It being a bit disconnected is the point, I think--it's about what you do when the role that defines you life is over. I've spent far too many hours of my life trying to dissect the revstar movie, so here's some far-too-detailed thoughts on the subject. A lot of it isn't even really in response to your post, I just wanted an excuse to write a lot of words. 
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making fun of someone for directly engaging with your criticisms in a conversation is kinda lame tbh
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to be fair I did say "I'm not really responding to you I'm just so obsessed I wanted an excuse to write a thousand words on the subject" so I'll take my lumps
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EVERY TIME GOING posted:meanwhile at the competitor's Magical Ford isekai adventures The Office Space energy this has
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I didn't know there was a revue starlight movie. Is this a case of yohoho or is it up on streaming?
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Kwyndig posted:I didn't know there was a revue starlight movie. Is this a case of yohoho or is it up on streaming? piracy only at the moment e: to my knowledge, the only subs out at the moment are kind of stilted. There's another set of subs that I caught a preliminary stream of on twitch which are much more natural-sounding, but needed a few rounds of QA to be ready, and then in the month since then they still aren't done and they might just never exist cheetah7071 fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Jan 28, 2022 |
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Piracy and the fansubs aren't great Tho the official subs for the show weren't either soooo
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cheetah7071 posted:to be fair I did say "I'm not really responding to you I'm just so obsessed I wanted an excuse to write a thousand words on the subject" so I'll take my lumps I'm glad it meant something to you and were able to seemingly care enough about it to make up for the apathy I came to feel about it
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That sucks, I hate pirating stuff. I very much prefer to subscribe to a service or to buy/rent on demand. I guess I can wait a while and see if it pops up on Hi-Dive.
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pirate everything. gently caress da Manga Anime Guardians
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i have dedicated my life to making sure crunchyroll does not get a single cent from me because the speedwagon lounge was kinda cringe
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Endorph posted:i have dedicated my life to making sure crunchyroll does not get a single cent from me because the speedwagon lounge was kinda cringe Lol I forgot about that. Good thing I'm living off somehow having crunchyroll membership despite not paying them for 2 1/2 years. Thanks database bugs!
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there's a lot i like about eva but like half of why i want to play evangelion 2: evangelions is just cause i love the idea of "eva game where you can shift the pov focus to rei or asuka or the one bridge lady with a crush on ritsuko" and that's the main thing no mainline eva thing gives me. eva video games cover for a lot of my issues with the show, when they uh aren't, the game about playing as a guy who wants to gently caress rei but also is raising rei as a daughter
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The Colonel posted:there's a lot i like about eva but like half of why i want to play evangelion 2: evangelions is just cause i love the idea of "eva game where you can shift the pov focus to rei or asuka or the one bridge lady with a crush on ritsuko" and that's the main thing no mainline eva thing gives me. eva video games cover for a lot of my issues with the show, when they uh aren't, the game about playing as a guy who wants to gently caress rei but also is raising rei as a daughter unfortunately that rei raising game where you can marry her doesn't surprise me, considering gainax also made princess maker, where you can marry your daughter (at least in 2)
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i dont name it because i am surprised of its existence, i name it simply because it exists 3nd impact and the awful janky smash clone however are ftw
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At least in Princess Maker the girl is an orphan not related to you handed down by the gods or some nonsense like that. Rei is a goddamn monster girl clone of your dead wife, which is just gross man
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you aren't playing as gendo the mc of rei raising project is, a faceless guy, gendo is paying, to raise rei. which might be more bizarre. i think it's the only eva video game where the protag is literally just a faceless self insert guy and not an eva character
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Oh, well that changes everything. It's still gross though if you're acting as a foster parent. edit: But like, playing as Gendo would ruin the drat game gross. This is just normal gross. Kwyndig fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Jan 28, 2022 |
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also i'm not sure if you actually can marry rei in the game. it just opens with the guy walking in and seeing rei and having inner monolog about how beautiful she is and how much he is in love with her. i didnt play past that part cause the fan tl is jank as hell and i don't think i'm huge into princess maker, prefer games where you're playing as the character whose stats you're raising instead of being someone else raising them, thats why i wanna play eva 2
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the bridge girl with the crush on ritsuko is maya ibuki btw. please respect, the best character in evangelion
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i promise that when i play maya's scenario in eva 2 (exclusive to the psp version) some day i will do everything in my power to get her hooked up with ritsuko, something i am pretty sure is possible cause that game has friendship and affection as different parts of the meter and both can be raised for any character regardless of gender. this includes pen pen for some reason but i think pen pen is programmed to start out with affection deeply in the negative.
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raisin a glass of tang in maya's honor
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All Mayas should be required to introduce themselves like Tendo Maya is my parting takeaway from Starlight
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Tender Mayo
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You're tellin me a Maya Tendou'd this rice?
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Captain Baal posted:Wtf is the speedwagon lounge   this looks like a level from no more heroes 2 desperate struggle. anyway one of the images (which i cant find) was of an employee lounge that had pcitures of popular meme man, robert e. o. speedwagon plasted everywhere. it was also like 5 square feet and had a single couch and a really cheap looking coffee table, and no tv or fridge or anything. people made fun of it until the guy deleted it.
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they couldnt even spring for a cabinet of the capcom jojo's game to put in there or something?
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mycophobia posted:who the hell is robert e.o. speedwagon Robert E. O. Speedwagon Jump to navigationJump to search Robert E. O. Speedwagon Part 1Part 2 MangaAnime SPW PB Infobox Manga.png Japanese Name ロバート・E・O・スピードワゴン Namesake* REO Speedwagon (American rock band) Profile Age 25 (Part 1) 75 (Part 2) 89 at death[1] Birthday October 16, 1863[2] Zodiac Sign Libra Chinese Zodiac Boar Gender Male Male.png Nationality British United Kingdom[3] Hair Color Blond (Anime, Digital Color) Eye Color Brown (Anime, Digital Color) Occupation Oil industry magnate & Speedwagon Foundation CEO (Part 2)[4] Signature Chapter 48: Straizo vs. Joseph, Part 1 Other Information Media Manga Debut Chapter 8 Final Appearance Chapter 113 Anime Debut Episode 2 Game Debut Famicom Jump: Hero Retsuden Japanese Voice Actor Masaya Onosaka (PS2 Game) Yoji Ueda (Anime / All Star Battle / Eyes of Heaven) Dub Voice Actor Keith Silverstein (English Dub) Víctor Ruiz (Latin Spanish Dub) Ángel del Río (Spanish Dub) Sílvio Giraldi (Brazilian Portuguese Dub) Laurent Sao (French Dub, young) Patrick Noérie (French Dub, old) “ Your face seems to be asking "Who's this?", so let me introduce myself! I'm the meddling Speedwagon! (「誰だ？」って聞きたそうな表情してんで、自己紹介させてもらうがよ。おれあおせっかい焼きのスピードワゴン！) ” —Robert E. O. Speedwagon, Chapter 11: The Stone Mask, Part 4 Robert E. O. Speedwagon (ロバート・E・O・スピードワゴン Robāto Ī Ō Supīdowagon) is a primary ally featured in the first part of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series, Phantom Blood. Formerly a Londoner thug residing in Ogre Street, Speedwagon befriends Jonathan Joestar and becomes a loyal ally to his cause. In Battle Tendency, Speedwagon returns as a wealthy businessman and a secondary ally to Jonathan's grandson, Joseph Joestar. His organization, The Speedwagon Foundation, continues to support the Joestar Family throughout the story, notably in Stardust Crusaders, Diamond is Unbreakable, and Stone Ocean. CONTENTS 1 Appearance 1.1 Phantom Blood 1.1.1 Color Schemes 1.2 Battle Tendency 1.2.1 Color Schemes 2 Personality 3 Abilities 4 History 4.1 Background 4.2 Phantom Blood (1888-1889) 4.3 Post-Phantom Blood 4.4 Battle Tendency (1938-1939) 4.5 Legacy 5 Major Battles 6 Relationships 6.1 Allies 6.2 Enemies 7 Chapters / Episodes 8 Quotes 9 Video Games 9.1 Famicom Jump: Hero Retsuden (NES) 9.2 Phantom Blood (PS2) 9.3 All Star Battle (PS3) 9.4 Stardust Shooters (Android/iOS) 9.5 Eyes of Heaven (PS3/PS4) 9.5.1 JoJolities 9.5.2 Tournament 9.6 Diamond Records (Android/iOS) 9.7 JoJo's Pitter-Patter Pop! (Android/iOS) 10 JORGE JOESTAR 11 Gallery 12 Trivia 13 References 14 Site Navigation APPEARANCE PHANTOM BLOOD REO Speedwgon.png Robert E. O. Speedwagon is a man of medium height and athletic build. In his prime, he is portrayed with a long fair-haired mullet and a large scar across the left cheek, leading from his nose to his jaw. His typical attire consists of a three-piece dark suit with a tie, and a bowler hat (in which are hidden blades). After Will A. Zeppeli's death, he replaces his headpiece with the late Zeppeli's chessboard-patterned top hat. COLOR SCHEMES The series is known for alternating colors between media, the information presented below may or may not be canon. Colored MangaPB (PS2)AnimeEyes of Heaven Skin(Fair) Hair(Blond) Eyes(Brown) Bowler Hat(Plum with gold and green accessories) Outfit (Plum coat and trousers, orange vest over a white dress shirt, green tie, silver arm guards) BATTLE TENDENCY 50 years later, Speedwagon sports a greyed flattop and a much older complexion. He wears an elderly three-piece suit complete with a tie and at times, a fedora decorated with a feather. COLOR SCHEMES The series is known for alternating colors between media, the information presented below may or may not be canon. Colored MangaAnime Skin(Fair) Hair(Gray) Eyes(Brown) Outfit (Plum top hat, suit, and trousers, tan dress shirt, green tie) PERSONALITY “ I'll always be there for you guys. If you need me, I'll come no matter where it is! Though, I might just get in the way... (おれは いつまでも応援するし困ったときはいつでもどんな所でもかけつけるつもりだぜ！もっとも かえって足手まといかな) ” —Speedwagon, Chapter 41: Fire and Ice, Jonathan and Dio, Part 3 Robert E. O. Speedwagon is a hot-blooded but honorable street thug and later businessman. Despite his activity as a hoodlum, Speedwagon is a righteous man. Due to his ability to "smell out" the personality of people, he had recognized Jonathan's noble spirit during the events at Ogre Street[5] and accompanies him on his further journey to defeat Dio, whose facade as a cover for his naturally evil behavior was easily denied by Speedwagon.[6] Speedwagon is incredibly loyal to his friends, befriending Jonathan was in part due to the gentleman being kind to his partners in crime. He will try to do anything to help them, and even after Jonathan's death, Speedwagon remained friends with Erina out of respect for Jonathan. Speedwagon takes care of Erina and Joseph Joestar much like a father figure or close uncle. Equipped with a courteous nature, he is familiar with giving one's privacy; this is apparent when upon trying to enter Jonathan's room, he witnesses the nurse, Jonathan's former love Erina, nurse him back to health and leaves Jonathan to Erina's care. This righteousness would be a characteristic of him throughout his life, as an elderly Speedwagon specifies in his will that his foundation should be used to fund medical and archaeological advancements, and his organization aids the Joestar family time and time again long after his death. Speedwagon crying when believing Jonathan to be dead Apart from that, Speedwagon is both anxious and hot-blooded. He is very extroverted and loudly conveys his feelings, from enthusiastically describing Jonathan fighting, to his despair at seeing Kars become the Ultimate Lifeform. Speedwagon constantly seeks to help his companions in various more or less convoluted ways. He notably breaks into a hospital to emotionally support Jonathan,[7] harasses Zeppeli so that he would teach him the Ripple, and has thought of using the warmth of his stomach to unfreeze Zeppeli's arm. Speedwagon also has often tried to confront zombies. ABILITIES Zeppeli assumed that Speedwagon couldn't master the Ripple because he wasn't pressured enough (unlike Jonathan and Zeppeli, who both carried the mission to stop Dio and the Stone Mask on their shoulders). Zeppeli ultimately tried to help him create the Ripple by stimulating the muscles of his diaphragm, but accidentally missed the right point and only managed to hurt Speedwagon. However, due to his life on the street, he is fairly resourceful and has mastered several useful techniques, including the ability to determine someone's moral alignment purely based on their smell. Speedwagon is a seasoned mugger, thus he knows the basics of combat such as keeping a good guard.[5] Saw-HatLink to this section Debut: Chapter 9: The Stone Mask, Part 2 / Episode 2: A Letter from the Past Saw hat.gif Speedwagon wore a bowler hat with a hidden buzz-saw built into it that was sharp enough to cut through bone. Speedwagon used it during his days as a thief, throwing the hat at his opponent as a projectile for a deadly attack. He was extremely proficient with it, being able to juggle with the hat easily, and throwing it with deadly accuracy. SledgehammerLink to this section Debut: Chapter 25: Ripple Overdrive, Part 3 / Episode 8: Bloody Battle! JoJo & Dio SpeedwagonHammer.png Not being able to master the Ripple didn't stop Speedwagon from helping in the fight. He used a sledgehammer powerful enough to kill zombies in just one strike by smashing their heads. This scene is omitted in the anime, but he still uses the sledgehammer later. In the anime, Speedwagon tries to smash one of Dio's severed hands with it. Following the events of Part 1, Speedwagon traveled to America and got rich in the oil industry. With his fortune, he created the Speedwagon Foundation, an organization featuring studies in medical research, wild animal and plant protection, and secretly, a Supernatural Research Department with the sole purpose of aiding the Joestar Family. As head of this company, Speedwagon has full power over all employees, including several leading scientists and workers. Speedwagon often employs resources in the organization, including transportation by helicopters, submarines, cars, and planes, as well as development in weapons technology. HISTORY BACKGROUND Robert E. O. Speedwagon is a man who lived in darkness ever since he was born. Growing up on the dangerous Ogre Street, he stole things to live and met all kinds of horrible people in his life. It reached the point of him being able to tell a good person apart from a bad person just by their smell. He eventually became the leader of the thieves in Ogre Street, and befriended a Kempo Fighter and Tattoo. During his youth, Speedwagon had traveled the world, experimenting with various exotic animals in Africa, strange Asian plants and Caribbean tornadoes.[8] PHANTOM BLOOD (1888-1889) “ Normally, I can't stand fools who start crying as soon as they get into trouble, but... these two are different! They don't have any regrets about their actions! They're giants among fools! (ふつう おれは自分が困るとすぐ、泣きぬかす甘ちゃんはだいつきらいだがよォ！この親子はちがう 自分たちのしたことを後悔しない、最高の大甘ちゃんだぜ！) ” —Speedwagon, Episode 3 Speedwagon appears to help Jonathan Speedwagon first appears as an Ogre Street thug boss expecting easy pickings from Jonathan Joestar when he entered the street in search of the antidote to the poison that Dio Brando gave to his father. But finding himself outmatched, Speedwagon realized Jonathan spared his men and ordered the others to stand down, offering his services in leading Jonathan to Wang Chan. Fearing for Jonathan's safety, Speedwagon then accompanied him to the Joestar Mansion where he saw through Dio's attempt to lull Jonathan's guard with feigned remorse. When George died protecting his son from being stabbed by Dio, Speedwagon voiced his utmost respect to the Joestar family. Following Jonathan's battle against a newly vampirized Dio, Speedwagon takes Jonathan to the hospital where the youth was cared for by his childhood friend Erina Pendleton. Speedwagon accompanies Jonathan and Ripple master Will Anthonio Zeppeli to Windknight's Lot in their mission to finish Dio off, though Zeppeli mentions that Speedwagon could never master the art of the Ripple, a fact that greatly distressed Speedwagon. Upon arriving at Windknight's, Zeppeli attempts to push a pressure point in Speedwagon's midsection anyway, in order to give him the ability to harness "small ripples," but missed the right location and ended up hurting Speedwagon instead. The group encounters Dio soon after and is forced to fight off an army of zombies; Speedwagon aids by attacking a few with a sledgehammer. When Zeppeli's arm is frozen by Dio, Speedwagon thaws it by placing it on his own flesh. After Zeppeli's death at the hands of Tarkus, he takes on wearing his hat as a remembrance of their fallen ally. Speedwagon destroys the Stone Mask In the climactic battle against Dio, Speedwagon assists the group by fending off zombies and making an attempt to hinder Dio by destroying his arm. Following the battle, Speedwagon smashes the Stone Mask with his sledgehammer. The morning after Jonathan and Erina marry, Speedwagon is seen reading about their story in the newspaper, only to rush to the docks after realizing their honeymoon cruise was about to set sail. He successfully sees them off, though did not know of the immediate tragedy that would befall them until later. POST-PHANTOM BLOOD In the years following the death of Jonathan Joestar, Speedwagon had traveled to America, where he discovered oil and formed the powerful Speedwagon Foundation. It is also during this time that he became an uncle figure to Joseph Joestar, noting him as a deadringer of Jonathan despite their opposing personalities. At some point, Speedwagon was kidnapped on a hijacked plane and was going to be sold for ransom, if not for the efforts of Joseph. Immediately before the events of Battle Tendency, Speedwagon learns of the discovery of a human-like figure embedded in a pillar holding numerous Stone Masks. BATTLE TENDENCY (1938-1939) Speedwagon, now an old man, and his team meets with Straizo in order to show him the inactive Pillar Man so that he may use the Ripple to destroy him. Unexpectedly, Straizo betrays Speedwagon and mortally wounds him while killing off the others to use their blood to become a vampire. Speedwagon is then dumped into the river by Straizo to prevent the pillar man from absorbing his blood and is eventually 'rescued' by the Nazi major Rudol von Stroheim, who took the pillar man for research. Speedwagon seems helpless in the presence of Stroheim while pleading for him to not revive the being that the Nazi named Santana. But when Santana breaks out of his containment and kills most of the German unit, Speedwagon was saved by Joseph. After Santana's defeat and containment, Speedwagon travels with Joseph to Italy in order to meet Caesar Anthonio Zeppeli, where he disappointingly watches as the two squabble in stark contrast to the cooperation of Jonathan and Will. He goes with them to where the three other Pillar Men are, and bears witness to the awakening of Wamuu, Esidisi, and Kars, becoming a bystander in the ensuing fight. Afterwards, Speedwagon spends most of the story accompanying Erina and Smokey, while withholding information about the Pillar Men and Joseph's life-threatening predicament from Erina at his request. Speedwagon, along with Smokey, appears to help Joseph Speedwagon and Smokey reappear once again during Joseph's battle with Kars, having come with assistance from the Nazis against the army of vampires. Once again, Speedwagon becomes a spectator to unfortunate events while explaining to a concerned Smokey that they must respect the wishes of Erina and Lisa Lisa to not reveal the latter's identity to Joseph. When Kars successfully turns into the Ultimate Lifeform and proceeds to hunt down Joseph, Speedwagon desperately begs for Joseph to go into hiding rather than attempt to face the Pillar Man head-on as he didn't "want to lose him too", but is ignored as the young man goes off on his own. Later, Speedwagon is one of the group of people who attends Joseph's funeral, comforting Erina as he is the only other living person to grasp the scope of her agony and the tragedy of the Joestar family. However, Joseph himself immediately shows up and reveals his surviving the final confrontation with Kars, much to everyone's joy and relief. SPOILER WARNING: Part 3-7 spoiler details may follow. LEGACY Speedwagon dies in 1952 of a heart attack at the age of 89. As a lifelong bachelor, he leaves no family behind. After his death, the Speedwagon Foundation is dedicated to biochemical science and technology, and assists the Joestar Family throughout Parts 3-6. His men go on to create a new prosthetic hand for Joseph, help Jotaro destroy the remains of DIO as well as study the Stand-creating Arrow, analyze Giorno Giovanna's Joestar bloodline, and maintain Jotaro's health after his Stand and memory discs are stolen by Whitesnake. MAJOR BATTLES Robert E. O. Speedwagon, Tattoo & Kempo Fighter vs. Jonathan Joestar Robert E. O. Speedwagon & Will Anthonio Zeppeli vs. Zombie Knights Robert E. O. Speedwagon, Tonpetty & Straizo vs. Executed Zombies RELATIONSHIPS ALLIES Jonathan Joestar: Jonathan's most loyal friend. An enemy at first, he later joined Jonathan on his quest after seeing the protagonist's dedication and courteous nature. In his later years, he founded the Speedwagon Foundation, which has become the Joestar Family's most useful asset in battling Stand users and supernatural research. Will Zeppeli: Originally, Zeppeli thought Speedwagon would run away at the first sign of danger, as he couldn't use Ripple, but he eventually respects his courage when Speedwagon stays despite his shortcomings. After Zeppeli was killed, Speedwagon donned his hat out of respect. Tattoo and Kempo Fighter: Old acquaintances of Speedwagon's from his time on Ogre Street. While Speedwagon temporarily abandons them to help Jonathan destroy Dio, they remain friends all the same. Joseph Joestar: Despite his cheeky attitude, Joseph cared for Speedwagon, and viewed him as an uncle. When Joseph received news of Speedwagon's supposed death, he becomes enraged and attacks Straizo without a second thought. Similarly, when he receives news that Speedwagon was still alive, he is seen happily tearing up before rushing to the Nazi base in order to break him out. Caesar A. Zeppeli: After beginning his training of the Ripple, Caesar devoted his life to revenge against the ones who killed his father. Having been friends with his grandfather, Speedwagon informed Caesar of the events that led to Will Zeppeli's death. Other than this, their relationship is unknown aside from being acquaintances in the fight against the Pillar Men. However, it is possible that the hat Caesar is seen wearing during his first appearance was the same hat Speedwagon inherited from Will after he died. ENEMIES Dio Brando: After hearing from Jonathan what Dio was doing to George Joestar I, Speedwagon decided to help with finding the man that sold Dio the poison. Dio openly declares that after killing Jonathan, he would dispose of Speedwagon as well for being involved. After everything that had happened at the Joestar Mansion, Speedwagon went along with Jonathan and Zeppeli to defeat Dio, knowing that he was too dangerous now as a vampire to be left running around. CHAPTERS / EPISODES Book Icon.png Manga Appearances Chapters in order of appearance Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Chapter 8: The Stone Mask, Part 1 Chapter 9: The Stone Mask, Part 2 Chapter 10: The Stone Mask, Part 3 Chapter 11: The Stone Mask, Part 4 Chapter 12: Youth with Dio, Part 1 Chapter 13: Youth with Dio, Part 2 Chapter 14: Youth with Dio, Part 3 Chapter 15: Youth with Dio, Part 4 Chapter 16: Youth with Dio, Part 5 Chapter 17: The Birth of DIO Chapter 18: Jack the Ripper and Zeppeli the Strange, Part 1 (Mentioned only) Chapter 21: Jack the Ripper and Zeppeli the Strange, Part 4 Chapter 22: Jack the Ripper and Zeppeli the Strange, Part 5 Chapter 23: Ripple Overdrive, Part 1 Chapter 24: Ripple Overdrive, Part 2 Chapter 25: Ripple Overdrive, Part 3 Chapter 26: Tarkus and the Dark Knight Bruford, Part 1 Chapter 27: Tarkus and the Dark Knight Bruford, Part 2 Chapter 28: Tarkus and the Dark Knight Bruford, Part 3 Chapter 29: Tarkus and the Dark Knight Bruford, Part 4 Chapter 30: Sleep as a Hero Chapter 31: The Knights' Ruins Chapter 32: The Medieval Knights' Training Ground for Murder Chapter 33: Pluck for Tomorrow and the Successor, Part 1 Chapter 34: Pluck for Tomorrow and the Successor, Part 2 Chapter 35: Pluck for Tomorrow and the Successor, Part 3 Chapter 36: The Three from a Faraway Land, Part 1 Chapter 37: The Three from a Faraway Land, Part 2 Chapter 38: The Three from a Faraway Land, Part 3 Chapter 39: Fire and Ice, Jonathan and Dio, Part 1 Chapter 40: Fire and Ice, Jonathan and Dio, Part 2 Chapter 41: Fire and Ice, Jonathan and Dio, Part 3 Chapter 44: Fire and Ice, Jonathan and Dio, Part 6 (Flashback) TV Icon.png Anime Appearances Episodes in order of appearance Part 1 Part 2 Episode 2: A Letter from the Past Episode 3: Youth with Dio Episode 4: Overdrive Episode 5: The Dark Knights Episode 6: Pluck for Tomorrow Episode 7: The Successor Episode 8: Bloody Battle! JoJo & Dio Episode 9: The Final Ripple! QUOTES Part 1Part 2 Quote.png Quotes “ Stop, everyone! If you touch this gentleman, I, Speedwagon, won't forgive you! (や…やめろみんな！その紳士に手を出すことは…このスピードワゴンがゆるさねぇ！) ” —Speedwagon about Jonathan, Chapter 9: The Stone Mask, Part 2 “ I've lived in darkness ever since my birth, and have met all kinds of villains. So I can tell a bad person from a good person just by his smell... And this guy stinks! He stinks worse than vomit! (おれお生まれてからずっと暗黒街で 生きいろんな悪党を見て来た だから 悪い人間といい人間の区別は「におい」で分かる！こいつはくせえッー！ゲロ以下のにおいがプンプンするぜッーッ！！) ” —Speedwagon about Dio, Chapter 11: The Stone Mask, Part 4 “ The father's soul has been inherited by his son, Jonathan Joestar! It will become his strong will, his pride, his future! (息子のジョナサン・ジョースターが立派に受け継いでいる！それは彼の強い意志となり 誇りとなり 未来となるだろうぜッ！！) ” —Speedwagon about the Joestars, Chapter 12: Youth with Dio, Part 1 “ I have travelled the world and seen many things! Exotic African animals, strange Asian plants, the Caribbean tornadoes that can uproot large trees! But I've never seen a monster like this! (今までの人生で世界各国を放浪しいろんな物を見て来たッ！アフリカの珍しい動物だのアジアの奇怪な植物だのカリブ海の大木まで吹つ飛はす竜巻だの！だが こんな化け物は見たこともねぇッ！！) ” —Speedwagon witnessing the vampirized Dio, Chapter 13: Youth with Dio, Part 2 “ Speedwagon withdraws coolly. (スピードワゴンはクールに去るぜ) ” —Robert E. O. Speedwagon, Chapter 17: The Birth of DIO “ This is so great! I wish you two nothing but happiness! I'll always be there for you guys. If you need me, I'll come no matter where it is! Though, I might just get in the way... (まったくめでたいぜ ふたりとも幸せになってくれよ！おれは いつまでも応援するし困ったときはいつでもどんな所でもかけつけるつもりだぜ！もっとも かえって足手まといかな) ” —Robert E. O. Speedwagon, Chapter 41: Fire and Ice, Jonathan and Dio, Part 3 VIDEO GAMES FAMICOM JUMP: HERO RETSUDEN (NES) Old Speedwagon appears in the game as one of the characters Joseph can talk with to obtain minor information during the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure part of the story. PHANTOM BLOOD (PS2) PS2 Speedwagon Render.png Speedwagon makes his playable debut in the Phantom Blood PS2 game. Introduced as an enemy alongside Kempo Master and Tattoo, the player fights them as Jonathan during Chapter 05. In his first appearance, Speedwagon uses punches and kicks as normal moves, and can throw his bowler hat at Jonathan as a special move. This version of Speedwagon can be used during some fights in Extra Battle Mode. Robert E. O. Speedwagon (Hat) Commands Name Japanese PS Square.pngPS Square.pngPS Square.png SW Combo ＳＷコンボ PS Triangle.png Boomerang Hat ブーメランハット PS Square.pngPS Triangle.png Vertical Hat バーチカルハット PS Square.pngPS Square.pngPS Triangle.png Around Hat アラウンドハット Running PS Square.png Slums Kick 貧民街キック Running PS Triangle.png Slums Tackle 貧民街タックル PS Circle.png Evasive Roll 前転回避 Available Stages: Extra Battles 03, 04, 06 PS2 Sledgehammer Speedwagon Render.png After being beaten, Speedwagon becomes a playable character in Chapter 15, changing his moveset to allow him to fight using a hammer. His special move has him spin several times. Speedwagon with his hammer is playable in several more chapters after Story Mode is beaten, and can also be used in 77 Rings Knights Mode and some Extra Battles. Robert E. O. Speedwagon (Sledgehammer) Commands Name Japanese PS Square.pngPS Square.pngPS Square.png Normal Combo 通常コンボ PS Triangle.png Spinning Hammer スピニングハンマー PS Square.pngPS Triangle.png Rising Hammer ライジングハンマー PS Square.pngPS Square.pngPS Triangle.png Typhoon Hammer タイフーンハンマー Running PS Square.png Hammer Spike ハンマースパイク Running PS Triangle.png Wild Hammer ワイルドハンマー PS Circle.png Evade 回避 PS Circle.png during damage SW Counter ＳＷカウンター PS R1.png SW Mega Hammer ＳＷメガハンマー PS R2.png Cyclone Swing サイクロンスイング Available Stages: Chapter 15 Story Mode Replay: Chapters 09, 11, 12, 14, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 Extra Battles 12, 15, 23, 31, 32 77 Rings Knights Mode: Ripple Warriors ALL STAR BATTLE (PS3) Speedwagon appears as the main narrator of the game, guiding the player in the Main Menu. Speedwagon verbalizes opinions on many of the other game mode guides and their personalities, usually to the effect of confusion or caution. He also appears in the 5th PV, introducing new characters and game mechanics. Speedwagon also appears in the background and as part of the stage hazard in Dio's Castle; He notices when the chandelier is about to fall, and loudly warns both fighters. STARDUST SHOOTERS (ANDROID/IOS) Speedwagon appears as one of several characters who possess a Metal Striker. Both his Part 1 and Part 2 incarnations appear as playable Metal Strikers. His Part 1 incarnation's Finishing Move throws his bowler hat at the opponent, while his Part 2 incarnation simply makes a "hit" effect appear on defeated opponents. EYES OF HEAVEN (PS3/PS4) Speedwagon jojoeoh.png Speedwagon was confirmed as a playable character alongside Jonathan Joestar and Will Anthonio Zeppeli in Eyes of Heaven. He also serves as a narrator for the 1st demo's and tutorial's battles, PV4, and EoH Character introduction videos, where he is referred to as 'The Interfering Speedwagon'. He has an exclusive Style titled Ogre Street (食屍鬼街オウガーストリート Ougā Sutorīto), and his playstyle revolves around summoning his allies from Ogre Street to assist him in battle and overwhelm his opponents. Style Action - Ogre Street: Speedwagon temporarily summons Tattoo and the Kempo Master (known in-game as "the Asian"). The two will follow him until they are ordered to attack, are hit (taking them out of battle until Speedwagon summons them again), or if they are separated far enough from him. Partner Icon: Shows the statuses of Tattoo and the Kempo Master. If an icon is glowing, that person is readily available; If it is dim, they are active and about the stage; If there is a red cross over the icon, that person has been incapacitated until Speedwagon uses his Style Action again. It's Just a Little Scratch!: Speedwagon performs a short gesture and gains super armor (or unflinching to enemy attacks) during "Don't try to bluff you rich little snot!", the first hit of Normal Attacks, or a Powerful Attack. Don't try to bluff, you rich little snot!: Speedwagon throws his bowler hat as a projectile, hitting opponents multiple times and sending them flying. It has slight homing capabilities, and will always return to Speedwagon. Go nuts with those knives, boys!: Speedwagon sends Tattoo to attack on his own. Though he will attack Speedwagon's target, he will also attack the nearest opponent if Speedwagon is not locked on to anybody. GYAAAAAAAH!: Tattoo charges at an opponent, sending opponents flying with his knife in an unblockable attack. Upon a successful attack, he will return to Speedwagon. Martial Arts, the Eastern mystery!: Speedwagon sends the Kempo Master to attack on his own. Though he will attack Speedwagon's target, he will also attack the nearest opponent if Speedwagon is not locked on to anybody. Aren't you acting tough!: The Kempo Master, when in range of an opponent, performs a three-hit combo consisting of a punch, a kick, and a backflipping kick. Whether the attack is successful or blocked, the Kempo Master will return to Speedwagon afterward. EX - It's Just a Little Scratch!: The super armor will extend to "Go nuts with those knives, boys!", "Martial Arts, the Eastern mystery!", homing dashes, and homing dash attacks. EX - Don't try to bluff, you rich little snot!: Speedwagon has invincibility when performing it, and the hat will receive a boost to damage, firing speed, homing capability, and range. Dual Heat Attack - That sound—the blade's hit bone!: Speedwagon flips and throws his razor-sharp bowler hat at his opponent, curving along its path to hit them in their abdomen. The hat begins shredding the opponent before a noise confirms that the hat has reached bone as their excruciatingly pained face is shown. Speedwagon chuckles as it finally cuts and flies through its target. JOJOLITIES He smells worse than vomit!: Speedwagon must land the basic Powerful Attack. (200 Points) Hand over all you've got!: Speedwagon must use his Style Action 3 times. (200 Points) Buffooooon!: Speedwagon must use "It's Just a Little Scratch!" 3 times. (300 Points) I'm the meddlesome Speedwagon!: Speedwagon must successfully execute 5 Combo Breakers. (500 Points) I didn't come all this way just to hold you back, y'know!: Speedwagon must Retire an opponent with a Dual Heat Attack. (800 Points) He appears in the game's Story Mode as his Part 1 incarnation, stopping Joseph and Jotaro at the Cairo airport after the final battle with DIO, and serves as a core ally within the story. In his timeline, Speedwagon, Jonathan, and Zeppeli were traveling to Windknight's Lot. Due to interference by Funny Valentine, Speedwagon accidentally stumbles upon a Saint's corpse part. He explains to Jotaro, Joseph, Polnareff, and Kakyoin that the Saint's spirit told him to find Jonathan's descendants and their allies, and then to find the remaining corpse parts because a new threat is about to dominate the universe. During his journey with Jotaro and their recruited allies, they reach Speedwagon's original timeline and discover that they are in the Joestar Mansion, which was supposed to have been destroyed during the night Dio turned into a vampire. Jonathan walks toward them with injuries he sustained from Dio's zombies and introduces himself to Jotaro. Once Diego Brando arrives, Speedwagon takes Jonathan's place while he's recovering and aids Jotaro to defeat the duo. While visiting the timeline of Battle Tendency, the elder Joseph Joestar of Part 3 convinces his younger self that he is Joseph in the future by telling Speedwagon to come out of the turtle. Young Joseph recalls seeing a photo of the younger Speedwagon and is shocked to see him in person. During the first confrontation against Heaven Ascension DIO, Speedwagon is the only ally shown among the protagonists, while the others are all inside Coco Jumbo. In the credits, he is seen along with an alive Zeppeli during the final battle between Jonathan and Dio. TOURNAMENT He is paired with Ermes Costello in the Eyes of Heaven Tournament but was eliminated in the preliminaries by Narancia Ghirga and Diego Brando. DIAMOND RECORDS (ANDROID/IOS) SpeedwagonDR.png DRCourage.pngDRStar.pngDRStar.pngDRStar.pngDRStar.pngDRStar.pngRobert E. O. Speedwagon DRName5.png Speedwagon appears in Diamond Records as a playable character in both the Action Battle and Tactical Battle game modes. He has a few unlockable statues of the 'Courage' type, ranging from 3 stars to 5 stars. Speedwagon's moveset in both game modes is comprised of various attacks using his saw-hat, his sledgehammer, and summoning his partners from Ogre Street to assist him. MovelistStatuesVideos Moveset DRAtk.png Speedwagon's basic attack string is a combination of up to five various attacks comprising of punches and kicks. In Tactical Battle, this is cut down to only three hits. DRSkill1.png Speedwagon pulls out his sledgehammer to strike the opponent with two heavy blows. DRSkill6.png Speedwagon swiftly throws his saw hat out in a circular motion around himself, hurting any opponents near him. (Unlockable) DRSP10.png Speedwagon summons Tattoo to slash the opponent with his knife. DRSP10.png Speedwagon summons both Tattoo and the Kempo Fighter to fight opponents alongside him for a little bit. In Tactical Battle, they are both summoned to do only one attack each on a single opponent before leaving. (Unlockable) DRSP10.png Speedwagon summons the Kempo Fighter to jump-kick an opponent. This attack replaces SP Skill 1 in Speedwagon's 3 star statue. DRSP40.png In the cutscene, Speedwagon is seen throwing his saw hat, and then catching it on his head. After it ends, he throws the hat at opponents in front of him as a boomerang projectile, before catching it again. JOJO'S PITTER-PATTER POP! (ANDROID/IOS) Underworld InterferenceWitnessing the Gentleman's Way of Life PPPCharNameBG.pngSpeedwagon SpeedwagonPPP.png WhitePPP.png PPPVerBG.pngUnderworld Interference ver. Rarity: PPPBR.pngMax Power: 864 (Lvl 50) / 1994 (Lvl 80) SpeedwagonPPPFull.png Favorite Gift and Voiced Gift Reactions: SpeedwagonPPPGift.png Skill: Hat Cutter PPPSkill1.png Erases panels in a circle shape JORGE JOESTAR Excited about Lisa Lisa's pregnancy The information below derives from a source not written by Araki. As such, it may or may not be considered canon. Speedwagon has a minor role in the light novel JORGE JOESTAR. He financially supports Erina and George Joestar II. As Erina becomes a major stockholder in the Speedwagon Foundation, the Joestar family is well-off.[9] When Erina and George decide to move to England, Speedwagon helps to rebuild the Joestar Mansion with his company.[10] Speedwagon and Erina try their best to free George from prison but they initally do not succeed, due to Ben Motorize having many friends in the justice department.[11] Speedwagon is ecstatic once he hears that Lisa Lisa is pregnant. He starts sending presents to George and Lisa Lisa at an alarming rate. His presents contain one of everything for both boys and girls, before learning that the child would be a boy. George asks him to calm down but Speedwagon affirms that he'll do as he pleases.[12] GALLERY MangaAnimeSC OVA & MovieNovelsGamesFigurinesCards StoryChapter CoversSketches Speedwagon's first appearance in Ogre Street Speedwagon asking Tattoo to attack Jonathan Speedwagon attacking Jonathan Speedwagon's buzzsaw bowler hat Speedwagon befriends Jonathan The interfering Speedwagon Speedwagon in Jonathan and Erina's send-off party An old Speedwagon Speedwagon held prisoner of the Germans One of Speedwagon's suits Speedwagon's last appearance in the manga TRIVIA Mike Harper Mike Harper, one of the main characters from Poker Under Arms, is a likely basis for Speedwagon's design.
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