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birdstrike posted:Albo will be taken down by his own federal icac, clearing the way for Kevin ‘27 COVID waves become the RuddWave
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Everybody cared about expenses four years ago when it was Barnaby but now it's albo so it's no longer a big deal lol
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Centusin posted:Everybody cared about expenses four years ago when it was Barnaby but now it's albo so it's no longer a big deal lol Mmm yes everybody cared
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Jan 29, 2022 12:55
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I've had 60k of travel expenses in a year pre-covid, granted international mostly but it doesn't seem that much over a year for the average high level employee? Yeah they're a public servant and some rort it a bit I guess but it doesn't seem out of the realm for a private company. Heck I'm just a sales puke travelling in economy and not fancy hotels mostly.
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Jan 29, 2022 13:18
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Konomex posted:MPs claim their legally allowed allowances. Oh no! Corruption! *taps ownership of all australian media*
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Jan 29, 2022 13:57
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You shouldn't get paid to live in a property you or someone in your family owns but that's just me.
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Jan 29, 2022 14:28
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Laserface posted:You shouldn't get paid to live in a property you or someone in your family owns but that's just me. I agree, but it isn't corrupt. Unlike *gestures at wild corruption* that isn't being reported.
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Jan 29, 2022 15:27
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Laserface posted:You shouldn't get paid to live in a property you or someone in your family owns but that's just me. It's in allowance for accommodation, food, and incidentals. They can sleep in their car, eat a tin of baked beans, and shower at work, but they're still getting paid the $330+ a night anyway. Yeah it doesn't pass the pub/sniff/arse test, but the alternative is to move to a system of reimbursement for actual expenses incurred. Which probably costs more than the savings anyway. I've worked under both systems in public and private sector. Getting an allowance was great because you could spend it all on beer without being questioned or actually save some money, but now I've got a corporate credit card and just photograph the receipts into the online system and it seems to work fine. It's actually better when you need to go somewhere like Sydney during a peak season and the allowance wouldn't have covered the accommodation expenses (I wasn't getting anywhere near the parliamentary level).
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Jan 29, 2022 22:08
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It is lovely that they have more for expenses than people on Jobseeker get for a year to survive on. Tim Wilson's expenses are around 2 and a bit years worth of Jobseeker and they still won't raise the rate.
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Jan 29, 2022 22:19
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bowmore posted:It is lovely that they have more for expenses than people on Jobseeker get for a year to survive on. Tim Wilson's expenses are around 2 and a bit years worth of Jobseeker and they still won't raise the rate. Politicians and jobseekers get paid too little.
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Jan 29, 2022 22:22
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But only one of them is performing a necessary service to capitalist society.
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Jan 29, 2022 22:42
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hey thats not fair, politicians do a lot of work to funnel productive resources into the pockets of the wealthy
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Jan 29, 2022 23:13
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JBP posted:Politicians and jobseekers get paid too little. The base salary for an MP is 211k which is more than enough to pay for your own hotel rooms or whatever (and Wilson's a cabinet minister so he's getting more than that)
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freebooter posted:The base salary for an MP is 211k which is more than enough to pay for your own hotel rooms or whatever (and Wilson's a cabinet minister so he's getting more than that) You are responding to his bait
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bowmore posted:He's gone around the country and bought all the billboards again as well  tell him to get hosed
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Jan 30, 2022 02:31
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bowmore posted:You are responding to his bait It's not enough money to attract useful candidates, particularly back benchers in expensive electorates. There's a reason nobody wants to break into the cartel all that badly and it's because you get paid more reporting to the minister than being the minister. Politicians salaries for the level of exposure and workload are pathetic. Nobody normal would ever elect to do it.
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Jan 30, 2022 02:50
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freebooter posted:The base salary for an MP is 211k which is more than enough to pay for your own hotel rooms or whatever (and Wilson's a cabinet minister so he's getting more than that) As if, hotels in Canberra have a captive audience of MPs. 211k isn't even enough to secure a nice house in Sydney. Whether we like it or not we do need to provide proper compensation to attract people to politics, aside from those who want to wield power and corruption for their mates. I think a better, and more hilarious, solution to the issue is the government builds a development in Canberra with just houses for the pollies. The PM and Leader of the Opposition have to live across from each other on the same street.
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Scomo sneaking out at 1am to put half empty paint cans in albos green waste bin
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freebooter posted:The base salary for an MP is 211k which is more than enough to pay for your own hotel rooms or whatever (and Wilson's a cabinet minister so he's getting more than that) It's pretty loving ridiculous that politicians get this allowance on top of their huge salaries. I work in federal government, do not make anywhere near 200K and my employer won't provide me with a phone or pay for any of my internet because "it's your responsibility as an employee to have your home office equipped". I can't work in the office now because it's been closed due to covid. Thankfully I'm saving money by being forced to work from home (petrol is expensive and so is parking in the city) but I sure as gently caress don't like making phone calls to members of the public on my personal phone.
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Join your union. As for your phone in the short term, look up how to disable outgoing caller ID.
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Konomex posted:Whether we like it or not we do need to provide proper compensation to attract people to politics, aside from those who want to wield power and corruption for their mates. hrm ok but when are we going to start paying them that much money
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Konomex posted:I think a better, and more hilarious, solution to the issue is the government builds a development in Canberra with just houses for the pollies. The PM and Leader of the Opposition have to live across from each other on the same street. Put them in share houses and pay for it with the resulting TV rights. Sitcom or Big Brother style, you decide.
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Fascist rally with Bosi speaking spreading more conspiracy theories live streaming now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqlMqiP0UlY
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What employee is ever expected to pay for their own hotel btw loving lol
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Bucky Fullminster posted:Fascist rally with Bosi speaking spreading more conspiracy theories live streaming now: The "Australia 1 candidate" for Casey (Craig Cole) just said "Maiden speeches are supposed to be all warm and fuzzy. gently caress that, I'm going to get my m16 and mow them all down. loving pedophile protectors the lot of them". Rapturous applause and enthusiastic endorsement from Bosi.
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Fair work has like 20 commissioners and deputy presidents (not to mention other staff in there on similar wickets) and they all make better coin than an mp and most of them more than a federal government minister.
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JBP posted:Fair work has like 20 commissioners and deputy presidents (not to mention other staff in there on similar wickets) and they all make better coin than an mp and most of them more than a federal government minister. Wow that's crazy and it only took them 11 years of being reported to to make katarzyna pay their employees minimum wage?
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:Wow that's crazy and it only took them 11 years of being reported to to make katarzyna pay their employees minimum wage? Yeah it's insane. They also keep knocking back minimum wage and award increases because they're all lib cronies that play golf and do gently caress all else.
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Fair Work Australia and Administrative Appeals are where the LNP failsons and ALP union apparatchiks go to receive a $400k p/a stipend for 5 or 10 years. So if you have a case in front of FWA it's a coin toss that you'll get either an IPA blowhard or burn-the-rich ex union delegate. High flyers get the ambassadorships and board memberships.
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Capt.Whorebags posted:Fair Work Australia and Administrative Appeals are where the LNP failsons and ALP union apparatchiks go to receive a $400k p/a stipend for 5 or 10 years. So if you have a case in front of FWA it's a coin toss that you'll get either an IPA blowhard or burn-the-rich ex union delegate. It's more of roll a die and a 6 is the union guy now. JBP fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Jan 30, 2022 |
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Bucky Fullminster posted:The "Australia 1 candidate" for Casey (Craig Cole) just said "Maiden speeches are supposed to be all warm and fuzzy. gently caress that, I'm going to get my m16 and mow them all down. loving pedophile protectors the lot of them". if you want to know more about Bosi and whats going on here this article explains a lot https://twitter.com/AlacritousCrier/status/1470743108975534082
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JBP posted:It's more of roll a die and a 6 is the union guy now. Yeah, it's been nine years since ALP have had a chance to get a bum on a seat, they've all aged out.
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Animal Friend posted:if you want to know more about Bosi and whats going on here this article explains a lot What the heck 64 minute read lol
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Animal Friend posted:if you want to know more about Bosi and whats going on here this article explains a lot Jesus, thanks, that's a good article realbez posted:What the heck this is a weird take
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Bucky Fullminster posted:Jesus, thanks, that's a good article Bucky you posted that exact goddam medium thesis in December
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Bucky Fullminster posted:Jesus, thanks, that's a good article Thought this was your essay
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JBP posted:Yeah it's insane. They also keep knocking back minimum wage and award increases because they're all lib cronies that play golf and do gently caress all else. Honestly the minimum wage should be automatically indexed to CPI or something. (Even if the index is negative btw) It's criminal that the poorest people need to constantly fight to not go backwards.
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There's absolutely no justification for a fixed travel allowance in 2022. You have a corp credit card, whatever you spend goes on it. If you had to spend your own money you make an expense claim. Why is this different for politicians?
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Bucky are you OK, are you OK bucky?
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abigserve posted:There's absolutely no justification for a fixed travel allowance in 2022. Plenty of businesses and organisations run fixed travel allowances. $280 a day or whatever it is isn't light years difference from what I'd perceive as standard which is $100-200 a day, but that's with paid for accommodation.
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