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Failed Imagineer posted:Don't worry that's most office jobs. If you need further reassurance then read David Graeber's Bullshit Jobs However, if you want an explanation of why bosses won't accept this, read David Graeber's Bullshit Jobs e: 
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60195620 We are a go. I repeat, we are a go for disappointment and whitewashing....
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Grey Hunter posted:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60195620 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fjv5JJbjvw
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https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1488059863179710464 Qlap for the Queen
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Danger - Octopus! posted:So companies will end up with small 'prestige' offices to take clients to and for executive meetings in city centres while the remaining office-based staff travel to/from the ones on the edges of the city I've seen this in my field of IT already - main office is just outside of Reading, swanky client base is a floor somewhere close to, but not exactly at, Salesforce Tower. All the address envy, 90% less cost for everybody involved. One of them was even in a WeWork space.
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fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1488059863179710464 So is the inverse true - when she dies, all the other Britons die? As Pterry pointed out, royalty is transmitted instantaneously regardless of distance, so it should be a swift end at least
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Jan 31, 2022 12:46
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fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1488059863179710464 I think I have opinions about the queen but I'll need to hear from a former Eastenders actor until I know for sure. Seriously, why are we asking Ross Kemp about the queen? What even is this country?
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Jan 31, 2022 12:47
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I get my legal medicinal cannabis from a private Harley Street clinic They rent a postbox and occasional room for meetings at 10 Harley Street and have cheap offices somewhere else in the UK, with most of the staff working from home via zoom. I've not heard of a single patient who has been to the Harley Street address.
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drat I bet the powerful career securocrat had no idea the met would insist she not mention any of the things he did wrong fuctifino posted:I get my legal medicinal cannabis from a private Harley Street clinic Psych UK's registered address is a church in a tiny hamlet in cornwall. I had pretty mixed feelings about telemedicine going into it, and also pretty low expectations after the three year wait and collapse of two providers before I even had a named professional, but it's mostly been pretty good. My psych is better than every shrink I've ever seen in person except one locum specialist, so I dont give a poo poo that the obvious timezone diff precludes any in-person reviews Spangly A fucked around with this message at 12:54 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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I feel like personally I am a lot more resiliant than the queen and if anything, she is probably leeching off me.
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Jan 31, 2022 12:48
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Isomermaid posted:I think I have opinions about the queen but I'll need to hear from a former Eastenders actor until I know for sure. Seriously, why are we asking Ross Kemp about the queen? What even is this country?
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I think we should shoot the queen out of a big cannon but that's just like my opinion.
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I thought the queen was dead.
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https://twitter.com/TheAcrobattys/status/1488115445085450242 Someone used Sid James' face as Alan Sugar.
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fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/TheAcrobattys/status/1488115445085450242 Does he film that show every morning live, then pop over to the BBC to do a live lunchtime radio show? Every day? Edit: "The majority of the show airs live, however due to Vine's BBC Radio 2 weekday lunchtime show which begins at 12pm, the final 45 minutes of the show is pre-recorded, at around 8:00 am, to allow Vine to travel to Wogan House for his radio show.[3]" Love to have two jobs for no reason.
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Borrovan posted:I thought he did a whole show about gang bosses, seems like the most qualified person to me? Nah gently caress that, I want to see Danny dyers hardest royals now. Danny dyer getting his bell rung by the queen and swearing in his poshest estuary accent
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learnincurve posted:https://news.sky.com/story/is-your-job-at-risk-the-roles-most-likely-to-be-moved-out-of-the-uk-due-to-remote-working-12527495 Yes, I should have solidarity with any worker who's job is threatened, but you have to appreciate the irony when most of the briefcase wankers heading for the wall right now are the ones who were (a) looking down their noses at manual workers for being 'too stupid / lazy' to get a 'real' job, (b) never in a million years thought their labour would become disposable as well, and (c) arguably opened the door for all of this by not expressing solidarity when this was happening to manual labour. The one upshot of it is maybe, just maybe some sensible centrists realising that the labour party should perhaps be doing something to protect the rights of workers now that they are the ones under threat (this is absolutely never going to happen because they're all loving idiots). Loonytoad Quack posted:https://www.reyooz.com/ is the other good one, but 2ndhnd is better if you're after a top end chair.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:On the other hand, it is kind of funny to see middle class jobs that thought they were safe get hit by the kind of poo poo that has been decimating the working class for decades. Like in the first round of automation you could replace a hundred harvesters with a tractor or a hundred ditch diggers with a JCB, then the next round replaced stevedores with containers and cranes and in doing so offshored a bunch of factory work, but no matter what Elon Musk or Japanese futurists keep saying, processing Excel sheets or legal papers is far more doable by a server and a couple of people in Anglophone Africa than any amount of care work or street cleaning or the type of retail work where you deal with people who can't be bothered to deal with an app. As you say it's unlikely to turn into anything other than more spite towards others without some kind of sea change in what work is.
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I was quite surprised to learn that universal credit used to give people 3 months to find work in their preferred field because none of the working class people I know got given a choice. That's not to say that the 1 month change should happen but gently caress me how unfair is that. For example, from day 1 Waitresses with 10 years experience are FORCED into doing agency cleaning work because some UC wanker can't understand how hotel cleaning and working in a hotel restaurant arn't the same job, and how the waitress could command more than minimum wage. Or the old joyful? Woman? It's off to the nursing home for you. But now it's going to happen to people with degrees so NOW people are pissed off.
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fuctifino posted:I get my legal medicinal cannabis from a private Harley Street clinic I don't know if it's actually true but I've been told the only actual permanent medical premises left on Harley Street are a plastic surgeon and a dentist, with every other building along there being this kind of brass plate/shared space because the rents are so stupidly high.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Yes, I should have solidarity with any worker who's job is threatened, but you have to appreciate the irony when most of the briefcase wankers heading for the wall right now are the ones who were (a) looking down their noses at manual workers for being 'too stupid / lazy' to get a 'real' job, (b) never in a million years thought their labour would become disposable as well, and (c) arguably opened the door for all of this by not expressing solidarity when this was happening to manual labour. I think you would find a lot more allies in this group than you think, if relatively few radicals. Highly educated Londoners for example split for Corbyn in droves. It will be interesting to see if there is a kickback though, they haven't needed unions previously...
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learnincurve posted:But now it's going to happen to people with degrees so NOW people are pissed off. When the centrists were attacking the unemployed and calling Corbyn a commie for sticking up for workers rights it was fine, but now that they're the ones at risk I can see all the dickheads pivoting now there's a risk that their jobs might become insecure. loving hypocrites. My whole life dealing with the DWP I've been aware of the privelaged position i've been in. No matter how poo poo they've treat me or used technicalities to drive me away, I'm middle class / educated / well spoken enough with a clean criminal record that they've always assumed civility dealing with me. I can't imagine how much worse it would suck for BAME or visibly/openly disabled people where the DWP get to be openly hostile and the papers just say nothing. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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Zalakwe posted:It will be interesting to see if there is a kickback though, they haven't needed unions previously... That's a large part of the reason why the labour movement has gone to poo poo
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Would be interesting though if the thing that reawakens the unions if the middle class suddenly have to invent Marxism. E: seeing linkedinposts going "Hey all, hearing that the old world is dying, and a new world is struggling to be born. Now is the time of Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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Anyone know a good site to find out more about Portugal's (newly outright majority, not just coalition) Socialist government? Most places pretty much just say "Huh, Portugal is run by socialists, and they seem to be doing okay. How 'bout that?" Imagine living in a country where "socialist" isn't used as a spittle-flecked insult. Must be nice. (The country's far-right party also gained seats, and their name translates as "Enough!" Gee, they sound an amiable, tolerant lot...)
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Borrovan posted:Forget the exact stats, but unions these days are overwhelmingly middle class professionals I hadn't really thought about this but it does make a lot of sense. I would argue that a lot of these people aren't middle class though, they have more advantages than many but they are still treated like chaff for a massive economic machine. Bobby Deluxe posted:Would be interesting though if the thing that reawakens the unions if the middle class suddenly have to invent Marxism. Using the blockchain! But yes this is my point, many of these people recognise there is a lot wrong with the world but it has only recently started to register for them personally. Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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Zalakwe posted:Using the blockchain!
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Payndz posted:Anyone know a good site to find out more about Portugal's (newly outright majority, not just coalition) Socialist government? Most places pretty much just say "Huh, Portugal is run by socialists, and they seem to be doing okay. How 'bout that?" Imagine living in a country where "socialist" isn't used as a spittle-flecked insult. Must be nice. Don't have a site I can point you to, but my understanding of the situation in politics is that the Socialist Party is just your common garden centre-left european political party, same as any other country's social democratic or labour party. Not so different from the Socialist Party in France. That's obfuscated somewhat by the country's centre right party being the "Social Democratic" Party, but at the end of the day it's just a matter of naming and the Social Democrats are a conventional European Liberal-Conservative party like you'd find anywhere else, too.
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Just quoting this to say it's worth every second, especially for the MP saying it's an insult to the common man to have the budget announced during some horse race
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was Cheltenham the one that they let go ahead right at the start of COVID
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SixFigureSandwich posted:Just quoting this to say it's worth every second, especially for the MP saying it's an insult to the common man to have the budget announced during some horse race some absolutely incredible levels of cuntitude from the tories in that vid for sure
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XMNN posted:was Cheltenham the one that they let go ahead right at the start of COVID Yes. And the Irish government happily let people travel over there and back with no restrictions lol
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Total Meatlove posted:I've seen this in my field of IT already - main office is just outside of Reading, swanky client base is a floor somewhere close to, but not exactly at, Salesforce Tower. All the address envy, 90% less cost for everybody involved. One of them was even in a WeWork space. Yep, it's the trend in publishing too. My firm closed its East Midlands city centre office with rather suspicious haste (about three weeks into the pandemic in the spring of 2020) and put everyone who worked there onto WFH, and has since downsized green-field head office in Kent from an insanely expensive barn conversion to a less insanely expensive oast house conversion with nearly all the staff there on half time WFH, and retained the broom cupboard of an 'office' in central London for the Fleet Street-adjacent address and for swanky executive meetings. I looked at their filed accounts at Companies House and they have made serious ££££ once over the initial disruption caused by the pandemic and the first lockdown, nearly all from not having to maintain bricks and mortar and keep the workforce in tea and biccies.
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Guavanaut posted:There's an interesting argument that now that a whole bunch of accounting and legal work is now more automatable and offshorable than what's left of manual work. Maybe I was in the wrong branch of law*, but I never understood how you could automate law. Or at least the type of law I was involved in. Like even the simplest, most common or bog standard criminal charge (being drunk in a public place, possession of a controlled substance, using threatening or abusive behaviour in a public place) involves too many moving parts for a computer to do it. Not only to you have to understand a defendant and get them to tell you what happened, you also have to get them to volunteer information that is in their interest (like "this incident happened when I was homeless. I now have accommodation") and in some cases guide a person through the court system if they have never been through it before. Like apart from having a knowledge of the law (and the flexibility to know where and how to apply it) you need empathy to speak with clients, and intuition to figure out what a judge or police officer will be like in court and plan accordingly. You'd have a better chance of judges being automated before court room advocates being advocated**. * = Or the right one depending on how you look at itm ** = Not to mention a technical argument about if an AI would have a right of audience in a court. No piece of code has ever been called to the Bar. Why how would they even take part in all the formal dinners that are required before you can get called?
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The Question IRL posted:Maybe I was in the wrong branch of law*, but I never understood how you could automate law. Or at least the type of law I was involved in. Presumably for legal aid defences, it doesn't take much actual effort to tell the defendant to "just plead guilty, you haven't got a chance." I assume 99% of the cost of a legal aid defence was pursuing the payment.
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Partly through automated discovery in civil litigation, partly through mechanical turk style farming out of background work to people across places with similar legal frameworks but much lower wages. You're not going to see a robot barrister or a judge from Lagos via FaceTime any more than you're going to see those Japanese robot carers flipping the elderly like pancakes, it's going to be a bunch of civil and corp stuff at first. Unless of course the whole criminal justice system (which is already creaking at the rivets in England & Wales) implodes, then you might well get district judges pulled from down the pub (they've already dropped the 10+ years law requirement) being advised by high court justices from around the Commonwealth over iPad, who knows.
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