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MonsieurChoc posted:Wasn't the Kami War caused by humans loving up the Kami? Yes. Konda stole the head kamis daughter and used it to make himself indestructible (both in game and story). And the flavor of a lot of cards is "we're all going to die" And yes we have the story.
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 17:53 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 20:15 |
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This is a pretty deece one drop Reinforced Ronin R Artifact creature Human Samurai 2/2 Haste At the begging of your end step return ~ to your hand. Channel- 1R discard ~, draw a card.
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 17:55 |
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Antillie posted:Recently I went down to my local games shop to see about getting back into the game and as far as I can tell everyone just plays commander these days, a format I have no real interest in due to the no duplicates rule. yep, commander freaks running amok nowadays. sad story but very common. Antillie posted:Also there seems to be a real focus on not making decks too strong. I honestly have no idea how u sure thats not another commander thing? they have to do that social contract stuff bc the format is a mess that can range from jankville to legacy tier poo poo. afaik thats not rly a thing if ur playing a normal format. Antillie posted:I really just want to have some casual fun, not seal club other people who have newer or less coherent decks. In general I would greatly prefer to play with no power 9, no proxies, and no more than 4 duplicates. Are these reasonable expectations or am I just being dumb? no more than 4 duplicates is a thing in every format ever. finding a player group thats gonna let u play the old cards but not be either legacy/vintage (which are insanely powerful formats that will kick ur rear end) or commander nonsense will be the challenge.
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 17:56 |
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Pablo Nergigante posted:This is a pretty deece one drop This card is dope
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 17:58 |
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mcmagic posted:This card is dope I like it a lot, evades hate and replaces itself later in the game when it's outlived its usefulness.
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:03 |
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Antillie posted:So I played magic a ton like 20 years ago. Back then the only way I ever played was 60 cards to a deck, no more than 4 of each card except basic lands, and each player started with 20 life. Games were either 1 on 1, 2 on 2, or 3 or 4 player free for alls. Recently I went down to my local games shop to see about getting back into the game and as far as I can tell everyone just plays commander these days, a format I have no real interest in due to the no duplicates rule. Of course it was "commander night" (I didn't know what that meant until I got there) so maybe other days are not so commander focused. Your decks are going to suck rear end. A handful of old cards are crazy powerful, most of them have been completely left in the dust by newer cards. I don't know where to find 60 card casual these days, but you're going to have to build new decks even for kitchen table play unless playing against decks of similar age. Fantastic Foreskin fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Feb 2, 2022 |
# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:03 |
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Pablo Nergigante posted:I like it a lot, evades hate and replaces itself later in the game when it's outlived its usefulness. its a cool design but i cant 4 the life of me figure out if its gonna actually be good or not. gonna need ppl to take the fall and show me the results first.
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:05 |
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Fucker posted:no more than 4 duplicates is a thing in every format ever. finding a player group thats gonna let u play the old cards but not be either legacy/vintage (which are insanely powerful formats that will kick ur rear end) or commander nonsense will be the challenge. I don't mind playing legacy/vintage as all my stuff is in that age class. I used to play against balance-zorb decks, tolarian academy decks, and the like all the time. The academy decks were the only ones I could never really beat. Loosing doesn't bother me. I guess what I am trying to say is that the power level of legacy was baseline back when I played. And my decks were all built and tuned in that environment. Hence my worry that they will be OP against the decks of today. Antillie fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Feb 2, 2022 |
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Fucker posted:its a cool design but i cant 4 the life of me figure out if its gonna actually be good or not. gonna need ppl to take the fall and show me the results first. Its just going to take some playing with it to figure out. Its a very interesting design space. Its basically a dash only creature with a useful channel. I am curious, is the channel "discard this card and draw a card" or discard another card? Because if its just cycling, this card is dope as gently caress.
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:11 |
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Sickening posted:Its just going to take some playing with it to figure out. Its a very interesting design space. Its basically a dash only creature with a useful channel. channel is always "discard this card", im pretty sure and yeah, looking at the card w/ my middling spanish, its saying it discards itself
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:11 |
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Fucker posted:its a cool design but i cant 4 the life of me figure out if its gonna actually be good or not. gonna need ppl to take the fall and show me the results first. Take the fall of... owning 4 uncommons?
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:12 |
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Fucker posted:channel is always "discard this card", im pretty sure Yeah it's this. It's a cycling effect on this card basically
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:13 |
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SOLID SNAKE: Acquisiton Octopus?
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:17 |
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Pablo Nergigante posted:SOLID SNAKE: Acquisiton Octopus? Love the name. Otherwise meh
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:19 |
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mikeraskol posted:That seems kind of just good in general. Dies to Spikefield and costs 3BBB for a 5/5 menace creature. I don't think so.
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:21 |
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Fucker posted:its a cool design but i cant 4 the life of me figure out if its gonna actually be good or not. gonna need ppl to take the fall and show me the results first. The next time there is a good red deck in standard it will 100% play 4 of this.
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:24 |
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Fantastic Foreskin posted:Your decks are going to suck rear end. A handful of old cards are crazy powerful, most of them have been completely left in the dust by newer cards. I don't know where to find 60 card casual these days, but you're going to have to build new decks even for kitchen table play unless playing against decks of similar age. Edit: Totally misread that. So my old stuff is junk? Well I guess that's better than being OP. At least I can play with them. Antillie fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Feb 2, 2022 |
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Antillie posted:So I've got one person saying that legacy decks will kick my rear end, and another person saying my decks (which are legacy) will destroy everything that isn't also legacy. Damnit. I was really hoping for something in between those two extremes. Ah perhaps you've heard of something called Modern...
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:26 |
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Eej posted:Ah perhaps you've heard of something called Modern... I have. And I would have to buy all new cards to play in it. Oh well, I guess that is just what I am stuck with.
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:28 |
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Dies to Spikefield and costs 3BBB for a 5/5 menace creature. I don't think so. I am fairly sure that the minimum for equipment to be playable is the equip cost has to be <=2 or be powerful enough to want to cheat onto a creature. It might be the second part, maybe.
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:28 |
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Antillie posted:So my old stuff is junk? Well I guess that's better than being OP. At least I can play with them. i'd definitely spend a bit of time appraising your cards because sometimes the weirdest old cards are worth something
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:28 |
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Sickening posted:I am fairly sure that the minimum for equipment to be playable is the equip cost has to be <=2 or be powerful enough to want to cheat onto a creature. It might be the second part, maybe. i don't know how valid that is for these equipments that are also simultaneously a creature. the downside of equipment being useless on an empty board is gone (since it's a creature) and a creature that you can upgrade into being more useful later in the game has always been a nice pickup in limited
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:31 |
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E: edit for an edit
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:32 |
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e: nvm
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:32 |
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flatluigi posted:i don't know how valid that is for these equipments that are also simultaneously a creature. the downside of equipment being useless on an empty board is gone (since it's a creature) and a creature that you can upgrade into being more useful later in the game has always been a nice pickup in limited Oh I think it's a really really good limited card. But I was responding to someone who liked it in constructed. I think Sickening was too.
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:35 |
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flatluigi posted:i don't know how valid that is for these equipments that are also simultaneously a creature. the downside of equipment being useless on an empty board is gone (since it's a creature) and a creature that you can upgrade into being more useful later in the game has always been a nice pickup in limited Its going to be interesting to figure it out. A 3/1 artifact creature with menace is not good enough on its own. The ability to upgrade another creature later is interesting, but is the effect powerful enough for the investment?
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:36 |
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flatluigi posted:i'd definitely spend a bit of time appraising your cards because sometimes the weirdest old cards are worth something Ha, yeah sell them all and then split a warhammer 40k starter box with someone.
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:37 |
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The mono-b deck in Pioneer was hurting for good 2 drops after Copter got banned, this seems like it could be a potential upgrade for the Scrapheap Scroungers. Evasive beater early game that lets your other stuff swing in for 5+ with menace for reach in the late game isn’t exciting but feels strong to me.
fadam fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Feb 2, 2022 |
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Antillie posted:Ha, yeah sell them all and then split a warhammer 40k starter box with someone. Would you post a decklist, just to give us an idea?
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:40 |
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play on this old card (reprint)
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:41 |
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Oh I think it's a really really good limited card. But I was responding to someone who liked it in constructed. I think Sickening was too. i meant it in constructed as well; my mentioning of limited was more trying to compare this new idea (equipment creatures) to something that tends to go well instead of staying stuck in the idea of 'equipment is almost never worth it in constructed' Antillie posted:Ha, yeah sell them all and then split a warhammer 40k starter box with someone. well, no, i mean 'take the time to go through and see if anything's worth it specifically' instead of selling it all in bulk (especially since you expressed wanting to play with some of that collection)
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:43 |
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flatluigi posted:i don't know how valid that is for these equipments that are also simultaneously a creature. the downside of equipment being useless on an empty board is gone (since it's a creature) and a creature that you can upgrade into being more useful later in the game has always been a nice pickup in limited I’d evaluate them similarly to living weapon cards. This one seems like it’s pretty strong and could see play in aggro decks in the right meta.
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:44 |
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Antillie posted:I don't mind playing legacy/vintage as all my stuff is in that age class. I used to play against balance-zorb decks, tolarian academy decks, and the like all the time. The academy decks were the only ones I could never really beat. Loosing doesn't bother me. wotc has an event/store locator on their website, you can plug in your city and see if there's a shop nearby that runs legacy events.
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:44 |
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Pablo Nergigante posted:This is a pretty deece one drop is this not a strictly better goblin guide?
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:58 |
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ilmucche posted:is this not a strictly better goblin guide? No. Goblin guide doesn’t need to tie up red mana every turn.
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 18:59 |
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ilmucche posted:is this not a strictly better goblin guide? you have to replay it every turn
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 19:00 |
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its a goblin guide ragavan with a slower dash that cumulatively gets more expensive but alternatively you can cycle it.. i mean channel it for a card. will work well with ninjitsu
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 19:07 |
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fadam posted:The mono-b deck in Pioneer was hurting for good 2 drops after Copter got banned, this seems like it could be a potential upgrade for the Scrapheap Scroungers. Evasive beater early game that lets your other stuff swing in for 5+ with menace for reach in the late game isn’t exciting but feels strong to me. This is what I was thinking basically. Yeah Spikefield is an issue here but I don't know, I like the card for aggressive black decks.
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 19:08 |
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Pretty good Lurrus target.
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 19:13 |
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I think Reinforced Ronin will actually fit in pretty well in Obosh midrange builds. Pitchable to Fury, helps enable delirium since it's two types and can be grabbed with Chandra Dressed to Kill
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# ? Feb 2, 2022 19:14 |