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Kyrosiris posted:It's just so confusing because it was at the start of the turn, I hadn't even started developing, just blind blasted Raigeki to clear my own way and... that. Its not uncommon for people to Maxx C after the first card play. Usually its not the right play, but depending on the decks, it could be a correct move. Beginners will very often do it right at the start though, so it common on master duel. Then, the Ash prompt came up, and they either misclicked or didn't realize that it was in response to the Maxx C.
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Getting used to the chain vs mtg's stack has absolutely caused me to handtrap myself. Fun times
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The chain is so potentially confusing that the anime itself took a time out to explain it once.
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Feb 7, 2022 01:08
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MegaZeroX posted:Its not uncommon for people to Maxx C after the first card play. Usually its not the right play, but depending on the decks, it could be a correct move. Beginners will very often do it right at the start though, so it common on master duel. Then, the Ash prompt came up, and they either misclicked or didn't realize that it was in response to the Maxx C. Having Maxx C legal does some weird things to the meta but is also kind of fun. I kinda wanna see it unbanned in the TCG, at least at 1 copy. Nibiru already exists, so it's not like it's totally unprecedented for there to be hand traps that punish Link climbing, et al. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Feb 7, 2022 |
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Maxx c againt me is always correct bc super quants folds hard to maxx c lol
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Deofuta posted:Getting used to the chain vs mtg's stack has absolutely caused me to handtrap myself. Fun times That, and conditions apparently being checked on activation, rather than resolution. I was playing my Pendulum deck against a Blue-Eyes deck. My opponent activated Burst Stream of Destruction (If you control "Blue-Eyes White Dragon": Destroy all monsters your opponent controls. "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" you control cannot attack the turn you activate this card.) - and I thought I could deal with it by destroying their Blue-Eyes White Dragon in response. I was very surprised when it still resolved as normal.
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Skios posted:That, and conditions apparently being checked on activation, rather than resolution. I was playing my Pendulum deck against a Blue-Eyes deck. My opponent activated Burst Stream of Destruction (If you control "Blue-Eyes White Dragon": Destroy all monsters your opponent controls. "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" you control cannot attack the turn you activate this card.) - and I thought I could deal with it by destroying their Blue-Eyes White Dragon in response. I was very surprised when it still resolved as normal. Yugioh is ridiculously allergic to just creating a keyword system with homogenized effects, and has instead decided the best route to go is "stupidly specific grammar." (See also: The difference between mandatory When effects, mandatory If effects, optional When effects, optional If effects, and which can or can't miss the timing. Also, the whole concept of missing the timing.)
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Skios posted:I've been looking at tutorials on YouTube, specifically to see if I can turn my current Pendulum Magician deck into Pendulum Magician FTK/OTK off of Lyrilusc - Independent Nightingale. Unfortunately the only YouTuber I've found so far that was talking about this deck is pretty horrible, declaring every card either 'based' or 'cucked' and constantly talking about how he's going to clap his opponent's cheeks. Are there any good resources on this deck before I take apart my Blue Eyes deck and commit? If you're talking about Trif, there are much bigger issues than him using that language. Avoid him like the plague.
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girl dick energy posted:That's a Problem Solving Card Text thing. Everything before the colon on a card with an activated ability is condition or cost. Other cards where destroying the monster would work have verbiage like "If, after this card resolves, you control "Blue-Eyes White Dragon", destroy all monsters your opponent controls." So I've been wondering, is the grammar any better / easier to follow in Japanese? Its it at least more concise?
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girl dick energy posted:The correct play is usually to Maxx C chaining off of their first effect that'd special summon, right? That way even if they don't play, you're guaranteed to at least +0. And then they aren't necessarily playing around knowing they can only make one SS without stabbing themselves in the foot. Yeah, but not all cases. Like, with Skystrikers, they are basically only going to be doing extra deck special summoning (at least for their first special summon), and when you Maxx C in response to an extra deck summon, it doesn't count that initial summon, you are better off just chaining Maxx C immediately when you know they are on it if they are going first, unless their first play is exactly to summon Raye, in which case its probably just better to hold it since it won't do anything because they can just chain her to their only special summon of the turn. If they are going second, then they will usually bring out Hayate first so you can also chain it to them sending a card from deck to GY, which will cause them to be in a bind, where they either let you draw 2, let you draw one and get the card they sent, let your draw one and get a search for some other card that isn't in the GY, or just awkwardly pass with Hayate out. MegaZeroX fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Feb 7, 2022 |
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Fantastic Foreskin posted:So I've been wondering, is the grammar any better / easier to follow in Japanese? Its it at least more concise? Yes. The issue is that the idiots in charge of the TCG don't want to have a rulings database or need outside sources to understand the game. They want everyone to figure out how a card works and interact with other cards just by looking at it and reading it. For obvious reasons, this does not work! The TCG came up with Problem Solving Card Text so that everyone could understand how things function but for the most part all it has done is make the game more confusing!
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Feb 7, 2022 05:16
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Cards with multiple or sequential effects also have them numbered in Japanese.
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Snoww, Unlight of Dark World is still one of the most terribly worded cards in the entire game and I hate it so much.
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Feb 7, 2022 05:39
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*Last Turn has entered the chat*
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Oh hey did someone mention both 'Last Turn' and 'PSCT' on the same page? https://twitter.com/MBTYuGiOh/status/1363498654888308737 https://twitter.com/MBTYuGiOh/status/1363500347453550604
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Dare I ask who Mika is/was?
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Ardeem posted:Dare I ask who Mika is/was? That's TreeTopDuelist's real name. And MBT and Cimo tried to resolve Last Turn correctly I think three times over three different series, and only got it right with the aid of an official judge. And the guy using it lost anyway, because even if you do resolve it correctly Last Turn can blow up in your face.
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Thanks!
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I've never actually played Trinity format but it seems neat. What's it like?
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MegaZeroX posted:Yeah, but not all cases. Like, with Skystrikers, they are basically only going to be doing extra deck special summoning (at least for their first special summon), and when you Maxx C in response to an extra deck summon, it doesn't count that initial summon, you are better off just chaining Maxx C immediately when you know they are on it if they are going first, unless their first play is exactly to summon Raye, in which case its probably just better to hold it since it won't do anything because they can just chain her to their only special summon of the turn. If they are going second, then they will usually bring out Hayate first so you can also chain it to them sending a card from deck to GY, which will cause them to be in a bind, where they either let you draw 2, let you draw one and get the card they sent, let your draw one and get a search for some other card that isn't in the GY, or just awkwardly pass with Hayate out. I played Skystrikers and managed to establish Domain of the Monarchs on my first turn. Other player had no counter and quickly realized the only move was to set and pass. I won in three-four turns Props to them for not scooping
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They could out it by drawing Afterburners or Engage, wouldn't be correct to scoop there.
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girl dick energy posted:Having Maxx C legal does some weird things to the meta but is also kind of fun. I kinda wanna see it unbanned in the TCG, at least at 1 copy. Nibiru already exists, so it's not like it's totally unprecedented for there to be hand traps that punish Link climbing, et al. Maxx "C" is one of those cards that you kind of have to have at either 3 or 0. Limiting it means you can't build decks around it because it doesn't come up frequently enough, but when it does, it's an absolute sack card that basically wins the game for whoever draws it first, whether they're going first or second, since in modern yugioh it's basically "You don't build a board? I Win. You do try building a board? I draw hand traps to disrupt you and enough cards to out your board and I win." Generally formats with no Maxx "C" benefit combo decks more, because they can't play through it unless they draw the specific counter in the form of called by the grave, crosscut designator+ maxx "c", or ash blossom, and running those cards makes the deck more bricky and inconsistent.
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King of Solomon posted:If you're talking about Trif, there are much bigger issues than him using that language. Avoid him like the plague. Yeah, his language was a massive red flag for me. So what's his particular malfunction? Strong opinions on age of consent laws, or insisting that he can use the gamer word?
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Skios posted:Yeah, his language was a massive red flag for me. So what's his particular malfunction? Strong opinions on age of consent laws, or insisting that he can use the gamer word? Assaulting a woman on a plane I believe.
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Yup you can see the post and video here since he deleted the post obviously.
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I have no desire to witness an assault, but thanks for the heads up. Good to see that unironically talking about things being 'cucked' and 'based' continues to have a 100% track record as a red flag.
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Wait were not calling things based anymore?
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all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly. Its w
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Charles Bukowski posted:Wait were not calling things based anymore? "Based" is fine, I think? Using "cucked" unironically though is weird.
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Moving the conversation away from rapey freaks: I'm trying to make my favorite girls work since they work in Master Duels, but also pairing them with other cards. So, show of hands, which of these sounds less insane: Invoked Lunalight, or Lunalit Shaddolls?
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Lunalight Tri-Brigade is a thing, its almost entirely Lunalight just stealing some Tri support cards and Link monsters. I've seen it played a few times, no idea how powerful it is. Haven't really seen them outside of that or acting as Tri-Brigade support tbh.
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Bouncing between Gold 1/Plat 5 is super frustrating now that its settled into a morass of Drytron/Tri-Brigade. Jesus give me anything to play against that isn't my opponent playing solitaire for minutes on end. also Eva is the worst card and whoever designed it should feel bad about themselves
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Zore posted:Lunalight Tri-Brigade is a thing, its almost entirely Lunalight just stealing some Tri support cards and Link monsters. I've seen it played a few times, no idea how powerful it is. hello, im doing this right now. Did pretty well until Platinum because of people who dont read my drat cards. Leo Dancer is untargetable/destructable and not many decks can out that if theyre not fully invested in meta staples, But most importantly, When banished, Kaleido chick is a Utopic Zexal for that turns battle phase. This almost makes up for Fusion lunalights being just able to OTK. Plus panther dancer is just the funniest thing if your opponents board is full of monsters to run into. Its very feast or famine if you're using the fusion side of lunalights as I am (Warning: Go Second or Scoop). But Im guessing its pretty consistent if all you do is Tiger/Yellow marten loops for link materials. Not nearly as good as Zoo/Lyrilusc hybrids though, but pretty budget rarity wise. Personally im waiting for the branded stuff so I can get some real consistency boosts and i can dump the tri-brigades. And when you get tired of them, they share a pack with lyriluscs so pretty good value overall. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Feb 8, 2022 |
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 This is my current build. I'm probably gonna pull Fusion Substitute for a Super Poly, find a spot for 1-2 Forbidden Droplet, and find room for Fire Fist - Swan in the extra deck. The main issue is that there's a lot of competition for the normal summon, so if I get Kaleido-chick and an Aleister in the same hand, I kind of have to use one inefficiently in order for it to not be dead in hand. That being said, "I have too many combo starters" is a pretty good problem to have, compared to my usual brickfests.
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Zore posted:also Eva is the worst card and whoever designed it should feel bad about themselves  I don't begrudge Tri-Brigade that much because, as a Dragonmaids player, my most involved turns can get similarly bullshit. 
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Got my first crooked cook today.... AND FORGOT WHICH MONSTER HAS PIERCING DAMAGE and promptly fused her off to try and bounce it with Zeus. 
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As always complaining about it on the internet works, just got a fun run of Thunder Dragon, Cyber Dragon, Fluffal and a mirror Dino opponent which let me get enough wins to climb to the lofty heights of Plat 4. Now to see if I have enough willpower to grind through all the duels I'll need to to get up to Rank 1 by the end of the month. I would like more gems so I can potentially actually try another deck at some point 
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Tell me about Madolche because they seem cute and my vibe in decks is "they're cute but also beat you into the loving dirt", see also Dragonmaids. I didn't get a very good picture of what they did because they felt like they stalled out their combo, and then got Sheou'd to hell.
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