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Keep in mind that the Halflings are part of the Dogs of War roster so its not all just Humans
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That's true, it might be worth it for the halflings alone
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Feb 9, 2022 20:45
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AnEdgelord posted:Keep in mind that the Halflings are part of the Dogs of War roster so its not all just Humans Well they've got almost everything, from Orks to Undead and even Norscans.
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Feb 9, 2022 20:46
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Dramicus posted:Well a pack generally has 4 lords, so it's possible to have 1 for Tilea, 1 for Estalia, 1 for BP and 1 mercenary lord (Morgan Bernhardt PLEASE). It could work. I'd go 3 for Tilea (though not all need to be in Tilea), Borgio the Besieger (Miragliano, big thicc unkillable Italian mercenary general) and Lorenzo Lupo (Luccini, a Roman cosplayer) and Lucrezzia Belladonna (could be anywhere her thing is basically seducing powerful men, manipulating them then murderign them to take their stuff, who's a master poisoner and shadow caster) actually. Make the Tilean city-states be one-city provinces with tons of build slots and serious defences and make the Border Princes region a patch-work of lots of minor factions from as many races as you can fit into there. That leaves 1 for either Estalia (and eh, you could put Lucrezia there, or as mentioned anywhere really) and 1 explorer or mercenary commander in a far-off starting location. AnEdgelord posted:Keep in mind that the Halflings are part of the Dogs of War roster so its not all just Humans There Orcs, Hobgoblins, Amazons (humans yeah), Skinks riding Cold Ones, skeleton mercs, Albion giants and a druid, Dark Elves, Norscan bear-men, all kinds of stuff in the old Dogs of War army book as well as the baseline of pikemen and crossbow units (all of which are various specific mercenary companies with their own aesthetic and background as well).
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Dramicus posted:YOU TAKE THAT BACK. My man!  Dark Omen especially is one of my favorite games and I desperately wish that it was on GOG.With that said this news is completely unexpected to me, like it was obvious we were never getting Nippon or Ind. Cathay is a one and done new race deal.
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If they do Dogs of War it’ll be a true grab bag of virtually everything. Greenskins, undead, elves, men, ogres, halflings, etc. Probably Tilea and Estalia would be more focused or have bonuses to certain kinds of human units. But the Border Princes will be a true free for all I think. I think that will be a campaign start position with a customizable banner and other truly wild poo poo.
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:If they do Dogs of War it’ll be a true grab bag of virtually everything. Greenskins, undead, elves, men, ogres, halflings, etc. Probably Tilea and Estalia would be more focused or have bonuses to certain kinds of human units. But the Border Princes will be a true free for all I think. I think that will be a campaign start position with a customizable banner and other truly wild poo poo. Tilea shouldn't be one united faction though, it's Renaissance Italy with warring city-states. And IMO they've actually got some pretty fun special characters to turn into Legendary Lords.
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Winklebottom posted:Total War Warhammer 3: Moobs, my lord
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Oh hey, in the lore podcast they mentioned they will definitely be adding some cultural differences between Gospodar and Ungol
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The Chad Jihad posted:Oh hey, in the lore podcast they mentioned they will definitely be adding some cultural differences between Gospodar and Ungol That's good to hear, I'm really looking forwards to seeing that, especialyl if they tie any new Kislevite LLs/factions into the civil war thing.
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I'd greatly appreciate a Dogs of War multi-faction mix-up that's just all the possible dog units. Beastmen dogs, undead dogs, skinwolves, maybe lions and feral cold ones, hell yeah! Essentially Rakarth but without any elf or otherwise good units.
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Considering the tail on WH2 was exceptionally long (seriously, the game was getting regular DLC for 5 years), I'd expect WH3 to be just as long, if not longer. Which means that, although the roadmap right now is obviously not including Ind/Khuresh/Nippon and the other hopium factions at present, that doesn't mean that GW won't look at the potential to make more money and start developing poo poo for The Old World as well. I mean, Kislev and Cathay were essentially crated whole-cloth and handed to CA to their thing. It's not IMPOSSIBLE that this could happen, but it's also not PROBABLE that it would, and even if, by some miracle, it did happen, it likely wouldn't be until years after release. We can only speculate. That said, there's so much to go with that actually has established lore/units/army lists, either from 8e or earlier versions. Chorfs are loving GUARANTEED, because their hats demand it (and they have the coolest beards, this is canon). Dogs of War are certainly possible (I am of the opinion that the Ogre camp mechanics, diplomacy outposts, and possibly the Cathay caravans are foundational tech being used to prep for DoW at some point in the future). Both of those are already super loving interesting. I would personally love to see a Dogs of War faction that's uses something like a Spanish tercio, even if a tight-knit formation like that would get loving DESTROYED by the artillery, magic, and monsters in the game. I love seeing the toy soldiers get smushed by big scary things, ok? The Chad Jihad posted:Oh hey, in the lore podcast they mentioned they will definitely be adding some cultural differences between Gospodar and Ungol Kislev is definitely gonna get DLC units to distinguish that poo poo. I suspect they'll also reference whatever they renamed Baba Yaga too, as well. Gonkish fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Feb 9, 2022 |
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Gonkish posted:Kislev is definitely gonna get DLC units to distinguish that poo poo. I suspect they'll also reference whatever they renamed Baba Yaga too, as well. They didn't rename it.
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Feb 9, 2022 21:08
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I'm convinced that Dogs of War are actually a powerful soporific disguised as lore because every time people start going on about them I go loving catatonic.
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Captain Oblivious posted:I'm convinced that Dogs of War are actually a powerful soporific disguised as lore because every time people start going on about them I go loving catatonic. Well, that's just your problem.
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Oh and also Nagash is most likely going to show up in some form. Who better to counteract the forces of Chaos than a (at this point, still a wannabe) God of death? What that would look like is anyone's guess. Plus there's sure to be a liberal amount of lord packs. Todbringer is highly likely considering Middenheim is very prominent, Thanquol is going to happen at some point because why wouldn't he (and I hope he can accidentally summon Skarbrand), Egrimm von Horstmann, Elspeth von Draken, Malakai Malakaisson, and so on and so forth. There's plenty of room for lords. This game is going to have a looooooong tail.
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Yeah, I mostly want DoW so we actually have a shot at getting Halflings and some of the other fun units that pop up in the lore that don't really have a shot otherwise. I don't care about the Tilea/Estalia stuff at all beyond some of their more interesting fluff pieces like the Birdmen.
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playing WH2 as dark elfs for the first time and it's a bit of a slog i think i have armies all over the shop and not enough money to get any really cool units. i also need to confederate a lot to get the other LLs before the AI gives them every blue-line upgrade and nothing actually useful this tends to end up with me leaving a black ark somewhere a rogue fleet can get it or something and me p.much ragequitting
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Your money is in other peoples hands. Over there. Go get it. Keep a black ark nearby for raiding and sacking bonuses. Make one province your slave province and put all the slaves there. Any rebellions are good since it is free money. Also black arks are stupid cheap and don't count for supply lines so just get as many as you can, park them in ports or take over ports with them.
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They should make a dogs of war campaign in which you are a small scale mercenary loving around in the border princes and you get slowly drawn into larger scale events. The campaign map is you managing your funds and army and recruiting units. Basically remake Shadow of the Horned Rat in this engine is what I am saying.
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I thought the discord stuff couldn’t surely be that bad. I was wrong. It was so much worse than I imagined.
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Third World Reagan posted:Your money is in other peoples hands. Over there. Go get it. Yeah. The mental shift for me was realizing that I actually don't want to hold much territory. That just give my enemies more surface area to attack. Raiding, slaving, sacking, looting and then letting them rebuild and coming back for more.
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Kinda imagined something like the Demon Prince system for the mercs. Fight for Cathay, get a Lu Bu hat and some of the redline skills that buff the Cathay units you recruit at your spiced up outposts.
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We already have what, 3 prototypes for dogs of war. Rogue armies, cathay trade caravans, and the new outpost system.
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Captain Oblivious posted:I'm convinced that Dogs of War are actually a powerful soporific disguised as lore because every time people start going on about them I go loving catatonic. This is me but also for Chaos Dwarfs.
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Baba Yagas hut as the first building Legendary Lord! Finally, a LL who doesnt need route marcher! Dandywalken fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Feb 9, 2022 |
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Third World Reagan posted:We already have what, 3 prototypes for dogs of war. Also you can recruit from non-hostile ogre camps for cash. Seems like the biggest "nudge nudge wink wink" out there, mechanically.
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Third World Reagan posted:We already have what, 3 prototypes for dogs of war. Also Lu Bu in Three Kingdoms. He can engage in mercenary contracts with other factions.
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So with the diplomacy system, you could possible be a horde faction like vampire coast, put out posts in other peoples areas with or without their permission (undercities) and get the ability to recruit from them. Followed by the diplomacy overhaul of faction missions for extra units. Then maybe work for faction for so many turns. Maybe like how the new 'I would like to borrow an army' ability works.
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Oh poo poo, I forgot about the new allegiance missions and allegiance point system. That could easily be used for a mercenary system.
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CA has a solid track record in warhammer for putting prototypes out there, testing them, and then probably using them for a future DLC.
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a thought what the hell do demon boats look like
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It would be nice to actually be able to trade if you're Vampire Coast or another race others find offputting. I'm always tempted to build special resource buildings wherever possible, even if it's a suboptimal choice due to my lack of potential trade partners. It just feels right to do.
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quote:I am uninstalling TWWH2, will not buy TWWH3.
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I am uninstalling TWWH2, will not buy TWWH3. The lack of Ind, Khuresh, and Nippon carry many implications: The Immortal Empire map won't be a complete world map. Sea trading and travel will continue to be a joke. Sea Dragon won't be playable. Monkey King experience, if it does come, is going to be lame duck as there is no Kuresh or Ind to interact with. I am already **** off when TWWH2 has no Araby. Now this. They promised a trilogy, and I got the first two game expecting the final game is to be a complete experience of World Hammer World. Now knowing what I know about the last game, I consider my previous purchases sunk cost. I would have given them all the money they want if they don't half-rear end it. They half-rear end my complete experience, I will go spend my money on something more wholesome. I am done with Game Workshop and CA.
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:I am uninstalling TWWH2, will not buy TWWH3. Why won't CA add my favourite Warhammer factions, which don't actually exist? 
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Imagine having so few problems in your life that you spend your time getting mad at unreleased video games for the most trivial reasons imaginable
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dear CA thank you for inventing 2 new armies almost wholecloth with GWs support and making 4 unique chaos armies interesting please design these additional 3 armies or I will not buy your shlock. where is my fantasy indian and japanese mythology?
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