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Aces High posted:they did finally wise up to this for 3 by giving Male Shep non-hetero options. Kinda too bad it took them 3 games and ~6 years for that to be a thing but hey at least it finally happened. Despite the Asari being designed as female I always liked them being modelled as monogendered, but much like that episode of Star Trek where Riker gets with a member of a similar race, god forbid we cast/design that individual as androgynous The developers mentioned there was going to be non-hetero options in ME2, but the producers got scared after the first one had all the negative press on Fox about the sex scene in the first one.
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Aces High posted:they did finally wise up to this for 3 by giving Male Shep non-hetero options. Kinda too bad it took them 3 games and ~6 years for that to be a thing but hey at least it finally happened. Despite the Asari being designed as female I always liked them being modelled as monogendered, but much like that episode of Star Trek where Riker gets with a member of a similar race, god forbid we cast/design that individual as androgynous There is the conversation where Liara's other parent calls Shepard "an anthropocentric bag of dicks" when Shepard says "If you were human, you would both be called her mom."
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Crowetron posted:There was like one ambient conversation that implied Asari look different to each of the other races that could've been interesting, but it's Mass Effect so they never do anything with that and instead focus on them being sexy blue ladies that sometimes become sex vampires. I mean really though that idea didn't fit with anything we'd seen before or after with the asari (also they wear the same armor as humans in ME1) so I'm not surprised it never got taken further.
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Mass Effect 3 is remarkable for being one of those blatantly unfinished games that fans tell you is great with X, Y, and Z mods, that restore partially finished content. But in this case it was the devs themselves selling you a mod made out of stuff that was cut for time.
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christmas boots posted:I mean really though that idea didn't fit with anything we'd seen before or after with the asari (also they wear the same armor as humans in ME1) so I'm not surprised it never got taken further. They have cameras, it's a silly idea fit for nothing more than a goofy background conversation.
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HopperUK posted:In the Sims games nowadays, when you create a Sim you just get to pick all the little details. Does this Sim get pregnant or not? Do they pee sitting down or standing up? Pick their voice from all options, change their body from all options. I think you even pick pronouns these days though I might be forgetting and the game just uses 'they' for everything. I wonder if they've gotten around to making all clothing unisex yet. When the game launched, there was simply one model for male sims and one model for female sims, each with their own sets of clothes. When they did the gender update a few years ago, they made male and female versions of every piece of clothing, as well as adding those options you mentioned. They also added masculine and feminine body type options, which deformed the base male or female models, and looked different depending on whether you were starting with a male or female Sim. Pronouns were (and still are) based on the male or female base model option. There's an upcoming update that will allow you to type in custom pronouns, but it's not here yet. Also I kinda lied, there's one piece of clothing that is gender locked, the outfit that's just a towel wrapped around the waist. Only male sims with the masculine body type can wear it. Don't want anybody seeing a nipple unless it's on a manly man. I've also been kinda impressed by when they added pride flags. They made a few common ones, and people complained about omissions and rather than going "you gays are so hard to please, I give up" like any other company, they added more flags until people were happy.
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christmas boots posted:I mean really though that idea didn't fit with anything we'd seen before or after with the asari (also they wear the same armor as humans in ME1) so I'm not surprised it never got taken further. I don't think it was that the asari actually physically look different as much as the different races focus on different features most like themselves. like the Turian brings up the head swoopies that resemble turian crests
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Mazerunner posted:I don't think it was that the asari actually physically look different as much as the different races focus on different features most like themselves. I agree that's the intended reading. And then I think the salarian make a remark wondering if it goes deeper than that, but you're supposed to understand for the musings of a drunken man that it is
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Burkion posted:I fell assbackwards into romancing Kaiden in ME3 because I didn't realize they opened up the dating pools back in the day. It's not a Bioware game unless you don't even notice you're romancing someone until you have to cock block them.
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Nice Van My Man posted:Eh, I was really put off Saints Row 3 when there was that one mission where you intercept trafficked women and the 'joke' was that instead of saving them you divert them to your brothels. You play as a criminal OP
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Fashionable Jorts posted:Lol my gf knows about the mass effect 3 debacle, and she's played 4 videogames in her life. Danger - Octopus! posted:It's really nicely done how people address and talk about the boss while avoiding using gendered pronouns but IMO it never feels like a cop-out because it's so smoothly done even in a ridiculous game series. Nice Van My Man posted:Eh, I was really put off Saints Row 3 when there was that one mission where you intercept trafficked women and the 'joke' was that instead of saving them you divert them to your brothels. Tiggum has a new favorite as of 05:05 on Feb 10, 2022 |
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Saints Row 3 is kind of a weird intermediate point between the criminal mayhem of 2 and the superhero style of 4 - it bounces wildly between tones, sometimes in the same mission.
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they didn't "change" the ending for ME3, they added a "gently caress you for not enjoying the choices we gave you at launch" dialogue branch that resulted in a game over (they could've made it an actual ending but didn't because gently caress you) and added some additional dialogue and screenshots to pad out the original endings. The fundamental endings of ME3 have never changed
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Maybe all western sci-fi RPGs are just destined to have poo poo endings right now.
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Narrative is the bane of video games.
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Elissimpark posted:Narrative is the bane of video games. 
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Aces High posted:The fundamental endings of ME3 have never changed The actual ending is, you have that huge party on the Citadel, go immediately to Earth, slog through to the end, then when presented with a red/green/blue choice you hit alt-f4 and go read that one Three Panel Soul comic 
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What the gently caress flag is that. What president did I rescue
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Jorge Luis Borges couldn't have written a more concise story. I play video games to wreck poo poo up, not listen to stories.
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Fashionable Jorts posted:While I know others were upset by it, and totally valid to be so, I was never bothered by the in-game advertisement that raised controversy. lol her dick is upside down
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I can't find it right now, but Bioware has that one unintentionally hilarious piece of concept art with all the female members of the various Dragon Age races drawn with invisible high heels.
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The Moon Monster posted:It's not a Bioware game unless you don't even notice you're romancing someone until you have to cock block them. I'm reminded of how Fire Emblem games do it where with nearly every interaction sequence between male and female characters have to double as both platonic and romantic given the difference is one extra scene, and it gets awkward fast.
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:lol nevermind: https://www.oglaf.com/dimorphism/ (midly  )
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Tiggum posted:Different standards of beauty? Well yes you see, one has a slim waist and big tits, and the other has a slightly slimmer waist and big tits. Diversity!
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moonmazed posted:lol her dick is upside down It's called an erection.
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Just as a random counterpoint, a friend of mine actually found Cyberpunk weirdly cathartic because her main objective was to oust an invasive male presence from her head.  Mr.Chill posted:To play Devil's Advocate, I'm trans and I Iiked Cyberpunk's addition to making a trans character. Getting nitpicky about stuff like voice in something as notoriously difficult to program as a huge game is whining imho. It's still positive representation and I'm not going to be ungrateful for it.  It's only positive representation if you ignore literally every single piece of context about its inclusion, implementation, and the marketing surrounding it. That's not to say appreciating it for yourself is inherently wrong, but CDPR was poo poo about it in just about every way, shape, and form. Do not give a company credit just because they made the laziest overture towards trans people existing, without actually caring about trans people in any meaningful or relevant way beyond that. Fashionable Jorts posted:While I know others were upset by it, and totally valid to be so, I was never bothered by the in-game advertisement that raised controversy. In a vacuum, it's just maybe a bit tone deaf, especially when combined with CDPR's previous transphobic bullshit. FWIW, it didn't instantly bother me from the jump either. The bigger issues are that they 1) pretty blatantly and cynically capitalized on the fervor around it to market the game and its character creation options. (And ultimately, hyper-focusing on the fact that there's a CHICK with a DICK!!!! is unsurprisingly more than a little uncomfortable to transfolks for all manner of reasons!) And 2) they also promoted a cis cosplayer who cosplayed as that character, bulge and all.  Basically, in short, they took the fictional grotesque commodification of trans bodies - the original point of the in-game ad - and then literally replicated exactly that in the real world. So I say: gently caress 'em. John Murdoch has a new favorite as of 13:31 on Feb 10, 2022 |
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HopperUK posted:ME2 originally had a lot of really irritating male-gaze camera work around the character of Miranda. I think they altered it a bit in the recent remasters, though I haven't gotten around to playing those yet. Is Mass Effect the one that has the female character in a bikini, but it's for story reasons because she breathes (or drinks?) through her skin? Or is that the other series that I always confuse with Mass Effect?
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jjack229 posted:Is Mass Effect the one that has the female character in a bikini, but it's for story reasons because she breathes (or drinks?) through her skin? Or is that the other series that I always confuse with Mass Effect? That's metal gear solid 5. In mass effect, Miranda has her tits out because she's genetically engineered to be hot. And Jack has her tits out cause she's punk rock.
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Dr. Stab posted:That's metal gear solid 5. In mass effect, Miranda has her tits out because she's genetically engineered to be hot. And Jack has her tits out cause she's punk rock. I like to imagine she just got all of her tattoos done and literally can't wear extra layers without it hurting a lot Also no one is bringing up the most ridiculous thing in Mass Effect. It's not the designs, though it's related, it's not anyone's tits. Miranda's breasts aren't even that bad, she's barely got any cleavage in the default outfits, she just wears a space condom like everyone else. She's not the boob person. It's the fact that in Mass Effect 3, in the original version of the game, you have several meaningful, heartfelt conversations with Miranda's rear end. Her rear end comes to you for help and begs you to save Miranda's sister and you have a whole back and forth with it. Also I think Miranda was there to explain for those who genuinely don't know, any time the camera can shove itself directly into her crevice, it absolutely does so. In ME3, you have an entire shot reverse shot conversation with her, but the reverse shot is the low rear end angle, so literally she is talking out of her own rear end.
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Burkion posted:to explain for those who genuinely don't know, any time the camera can shove itself directly into her crevice, it absolutely does so. In ME3, you have an entire shot reverse shot conversation with her, but the reverse shot is the low rear end angle, so literally she is talking out of her own rear end. How come no one told me that Mass Effect was just Ace Ventura The Video Game?
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They tried to pull the camera out of her rear end in the remaster as best they could and surprising no one, Certain People were FURIOUS at the censorship. 
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