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happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Comrade Fakename posted:

When I was in sixth form our college’s union went on strike because they’d had 12 consecutive votes of no confidence over the college’s principal, all of which were unanimous against him. Anyway, my maths A Level lecturer was in a different union that didn’t believe in striking, considering teaching to be a profession like nursing that was too important to risk a strike. She informed us that on the strike day, the class would be held as normal, and if we didn’t attend we’d be marked as absent. So, she demanded that we cross a picket line in order to go to maths.

I don’t think anyone went.

In NI here there are at least two teacher unions, and for some past strikes we would go in and just some teachers would be in, the others have empty classes
The good days where when all your classes had teachers who were off.

happyhippy fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Feb 17, 2022

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ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

WhatEvil posted:

https://twitter.com/TypeForVictory/status/1494034483108093956?s=20&t=MM0rH85ytbuD4I7kTRxzMw

https://twitter.com/TypeForVictory/status/1494071965514088448?s=20&t=MM0rH85ytbuD4I7kTRxzMw

Whelp. Thankfully I was on the earlier repayment plan and paid my loans off (for a Foundation Year and then a 1st Year and then dropping out) a couple of years ago.

This is some regressive poo poo though.

Who can bring themselves to give a poo poo about student loans? I apparently owe tens of thousands and forget about it for months and years on end. Silly joke loan that seems to exist purely to convince working class people they're going to gently caress themselves by taking it and not to go to uni after all. It's literally just a graduate tax (which sure shouldn't be a thing either) in all but name, but under neoliberalism everything must be expressed in market language.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I am sort of waiting for the government to decide to throw everyone with one into the workhouses retroactively but yes otherwise as I do not ever expect to earn enough to pay it I am not really bothered, eventually they're going to have to write them off because most people are going to default on them.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
I'm getting close to mine being written off without ever having earned enough to pay anything and sometimes the company sends me hopeful little notes all ' you can make payments if you want any time!' Nah I'm all right thanks

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
At the end of a long night, obviously, but just feel the need to express that I love you all. From Barry to owly to borrovan to jaeluni, you’ve somehow ended up as my most reliably support network, even if it’s just reading your posts. I know it’s frowned upon but I’d really love to buy you all a pint, or a cuppa, one day.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Jakabite posted:

At the end of a long night, obviously, but just feel the need to express that I love you all. From Barry to owly to borrovan to jaeluni, you’ve somehow ended up as my most reliably support network, even if it’s just reading your posts. I know it’s frowned upon but I’d really love to buy you all a pint, or a cuppa, one day.

Thanks, Boris!

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



What happens to the corgis when the Queen kicks it? Are they entombed with her or...?

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Epic High Five posted:

What happens to the corgis when the Queen kicks it? Are they entombed with her or...?

Think Bricktop, just replace 'pig' with 'corgi'.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The corgis are actually aspects of anubis and are keeping her from dying.

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016

Epic High Five posted:

What happens to the corgis when the Queen kicks it? Are they entombed with her or...?
Would swear she's corgiless now, wasn't it a minor thing a while back that her last one carked it?

Anyway, Witchell will be entombed with her.

Anyway, ROBOBUNNY or something.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
I fed them the extremely cheap wine I’m drink and they had a conniption

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

ThomasPaine posted:

Who can bring themselves to give a poo poo about student loans? I apparently owe tens of thousands and forget about it for months and years on end. Silly joke loan that seems to exist purely to convince working class people they're going to gently caress themselves by taking it and not to go to uni after all. It's literally just a graduate tax (which sure shouldn't be a thing either) in all but name, but under neoliberalism everything must be expressed in market language.

Whether you give a poo poo or not, freezing the payment thresholds is still relevant. Used to be that as average pay went up, so did the thresholds for when you start paying/how much you pay back - same as how your personal allowance/tax-free amount goes up every year with inflation. Not anymore. Your graduate tax just went up in real terms, and it'll continue to go up, and even those who currently don't earn enough to be paying them back will soon enough start having to pay some portion, often to go on top of the rest of the effects of inflation giving real-terms pay cuts.

And before you (perhaps not specifically you but the plural form of "you") might have had a chance at repaying them at some point and being free of them, if you were a middle-earner. Now nobody except for people who go on to be finance wankers and those with rich parents will ever pay them off.

So yeah, it's a tax on middle-earners more than anything else. It's regressive as poo poo.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

WhatEvil posted:

Whether you give a poo poo or not, freezing the payment thresholds is still relevant. Used to be that as average pay went up, so did the thresholds for when you start paying/how much you pay back - same as how your personal allowance/tax-free amount goes up every year with inflation. Not anymore. Your graduate tax just went up in real terms, and it'll continue to go up, and even those who currently don't earn enough to be paying them back will soon enough start having to pay some portion, often to go on top of the rest of the effects of inflation giving real-terms pay cuts.

And before you (perhaps not specifically you but the plural form of "you") might have had a chance at repaying them at some point and being free of them, if you were a middle-earner. Now nobody except for people who go on to be finance wankers and those with rich parents will ever pay them off.

So yeah, it's a tax on middle-earners more than anything else. It's regressive as poo poo.

This, plus I'd expect the government to flog them off to some bunch of utter bastards like Erudio again, who will make the lives of the loanees absolute hell and trick or cajole them into paying when they don't need to.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


The best part is that the older plan 1 loans are only going up by 1.5%.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
What happens to the money when Liz goes Norwegian Blue?
Do we keep seeing her eyes follow us around the room, or telling us to set fire to things, every time we hold a fiver up?

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Prince Charles' ugly mug on all our coins and banknotes lol.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
You just draw your best picture of the new monarch over her face and carry on using it.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I wonder if they will also use a picture of him from 30 years ago.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Pistol_Pete posted:

Prince Charles' ugly mug on all our coins and banknotes lol.
There is absolutely going to be a protest movement from people clutching on to all their Liz-fronted monies who can’t bear the thought of handling notes without dear old Queenie on the front and it’s going to be incredible.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
King Chuck, inches from your genitals.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Ages ago someone in this thread put forward the theory that Corbyn drove centrists mad because they love to think of themselves as the nice guys, so as soon as someone came along offering to be nicer and genuinely improve things they were clamouring to tear him down so they could reclaim the high ground.

I've advanced a similar theory as the explanation of why liberals side with fascists over socialists a few times. It's not about thinking of themselves as nice guys though. It's just that they don't want to help anyone. With fascists they can tut and present themselves as the sensible option, but if someone ever successfully managed to improve things then the voters might realise that there is no reason to vote for a liberal who won't even try.

In a nutshell: "better things aren't possible" isn't just the centrist mantra, it's the fundamental plank of their existence.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

happyhippy posted:

What happens to the money when Liz goes Norwegian Blue?
Do we keep seeing her eyes follow us around the room, or telling us to set fire to things, every time we hold a fiver up?

It just gets replaced on the normal schedule, most notes will be gone within a couple of years but the coins will keep rattling around until they change the planchet - until they changed the size of the 5 and 10p bits in the 90s you'd still get the occasional George VI 1 or 2 shilling coin in your change (none older though because before him they actually had silver in them).

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Prole, your commentary last night is exactly how I feel about it, I wouldn't consider going in in any circumstance if I hadn't been specifically asked to help the Union with a legal issue related to the strike. Like sure there's all kinds of justifications for why it's not an issue but... you just don't do that. Ever.

...except that I'm apparently the only member with relevant expertise for a current problem, and I need my books to fully address it. Picket day today anyway, so the dilemma's deferred for a bit (& I can chat to the Committee about it on the picket lines)

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Jedit posted:

In a nutshell: "better things aren't possible" isn't just the centrist mantra, it's the fundamental plank of their existence.
It’s the political version of “I’d love to get fit but there’s just no time!” and then some prick from the office goes and invites you to go running with them on the weekend. Now I have to invent an entirely new excuse, gently caress you :mad:

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE
I've got various bags of old pre-decimal ha'pennies people have found in drawers and given to me over the years, I've got at least 4 different monarchs on them. It used to be pretty standard to have an old king on some of your money, and even now you'll get coins with different portaits of the queen on them, which have changed about as often as monarchs usually last.

Pantsmaster Bill
May 7, 2007

Private Speech posted:

The best part is that the older plan 1 loans are only going up by 1.5%.

I thought they were going up to 1.5%, not by 1.5%. They’re based off the lower of Base rate+1%, or RPI.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1494249179421499396

Yikes.

Straight back to Nu-Labour authoritarian shitbaggery then.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Jakabite posted:

At the end of a long night, obviously, but just feel the need to express that I love you all. From Barry to owly to borrovan to jaeluni, you’ve somehow ended up as my most reliably support network, even if it’s just reading your posts. I know it’s frowned upon but I’d really love to buy you all a pint, or a cuppa, one day.

Thanks Jakabite. Maybe one day...

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

sebzilla posted:

https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1494249179421499396

Yikes.

Straight back to Nu-Labour authoritarian shitbaggery then.

Her follow up line is the really piss-boiling part, just "whoops did I just say that" Barbie fascism

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Pantsmaster Bill posted:

I thought they were going up to 1.5%, not by 1.5%. They’re based off the lower of Base rate+1%, or RPI.

Yes, but seeing as RPI is %many, it'll be 1.5%.

Bacon Terrorist
May 7, 2010

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022
My hometown MP doing a 'Diane Abbot':




I'm sure it will go as viral as the aforementioned version :allears:

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
I like that you've circled a third shoe as though part of the controversy is that he has yet another leg

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Failed Imagineer posted:

Her follow up line is the really piss-boiling part, just "whoops did I just say that" Barbie fascism

it reminds me of Jess Phillips' style "telling it like it is"

https://twitter.com/TheSinanKose/status/1494251109032017920?t=p7trEm_PV3dmjJjwV3BxkQ&s=19

somehow they manage to plumb new depths every day

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Man, I'm a loving catastrophe when it comes to fashion & even I managed to wear 2 shoes from the same pair.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

When it turns out the police are hilariously corrupt the best thing to do is to have them kill a load of people.

SixFigureSandwich
Oct 30, 2004
Exciting Lemon
Who looks at the many, many cases of US police killing random people and says to themselves 'that's what we should be doing here' jfc

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


SixFigureSandwich posted:

Who looks at the many, many cases of US police killing random people and says to themselves 'that's what we should be doing here' jfc

Tories.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

sebzilla posted:

https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1494249179421499396

Yikes.

Straight back to Nu-Labour authoritarian shitbaggery then.

Now THIS is the sort of "Angela Rynar is bad actually" content I wanted before!

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


jfc Rayner is so loving bad at politics

It's like she doesn't even understand that the reason the right won't accept her is factionalism, well good news Angie you no longer have a faction

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Jippa
Feb 13, 2009

Bacon Terrorist posted:

My hometown MP doing a 'Diane Abbot':




I'm sure it will go as viral as the aforementioned version :allears:

I honestly think politicians are the ones that social media has skewered the worst. They are at heart awkward nerds and needed the filter the most.

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