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A jargogle posted:But then the actual optimal strategy for acquiring points is to go next as fast as possible, dropping your 1/100 chance of winning and increasing the speed at which you can get your next game with decent odds. People in my games certainly seem to think this is true but it's definitely not If you want the highest ev points per hour you should nearly never surrender unless your chance is literally as you say 1/100 and I don't think teams are consistent enough to close stuff like that out until very high elo, most hopeless games probably have like a 10-20 percent chance of a comeback and not changing that to 0 is probably better than starting a new game
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I think the optimal strat is to constantly spam GG after first blood and ping untill your team ints so hard the game is over by 20 mins.
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Had my first encounter with Renata Glasc who despite having a name like a Seinfeld character, totally rocks. Healed me from single digit hp to like half health while i was traipsing around the enemy jungle tryin to commit war crimes as Brand, then ulting the enemy team and their yone just goes ham on everyone. Most entertaining league moment in ages.
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Stefan Prodan posted:People in my games certainly seem to think this is true but it's definitely not You as a player are not a pefect machine that is limited only by the literal time cost of games. Saving 10 minutes of frustrating slow loss can translate to having the will and energy to play another full game that you otherwise wouldn't be up to, and getting out of a loss quickly and reseting can improve your winrate for the rest of the games you play that day. I'm not a huge fan of instant gg go next and I don't tend to volunteer to surrender but if you're grinding your way up and trying to be efficient about it sinking your time and energy for a 10% chance isn't a good investment.
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Stefan Prodan posted:People in my games certainly seem to think this is true but it's definitely not There's obviously a spectrum with this kind of thing - afk after giving up first cannon creep at one end, vs 0-79 "we scale" at the other. Given there are bots with something like a ~65% accuracy predicting the results from champ select alone, by the time you're out of laning and every lane is behind? I don't think it's unreasonable to call 1/100 chances quite a common occurrence. A jargogle fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Feb 20, 2022 |
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Taciturn Tactician posted:You as a player are not a pefect machine that is limited only by the literal time cost of games. Saving 10 minutes of frustrating slow loss can translate to having the will and energy to play another full game that you otherwise wouldn't be up to, and getting out of a loss quickly and reseting can improve your winrate for the rest of the games you play that day. I'm not a huge fan of instant gg go next and I don't tend to volunteer to surrender but if you're grinding your way up and trying to be efficient about it sinking your time and energy for a 10% chance isn't a good investment. I mean past games don't bother me so maybe I'm just speaking from personal experience I get a lot more bothered by my teammates giving up extra LP by giving up when they shouldn't than losing a hard fought match If you think not giving up a 10 percent game would drain 5 percent winrate from your next four games or something then sure I guess I'm not super good at the game and I got to promos for diamond and I really feel like a big part of it was just never giving up on games and rarely tilting
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A jargogle posted:There's obviously a spectrum with this kind of thing - afk after giving up first cannon creep at one end, vs 0-79 "we scale" at the other. Given there are bots with something like a ~65% accuracy predicting the results from champ select alone, by the time you're out of laning and every lane is behind? I don't think it's unreasonable to call 1/100 chances quite a common occurrence. Yeah idk I just feel like at low elo people not only do not know how to close out games but will also just run and get caught out for no reason and only need to do that a few times to completely give up a lead. You would have to show me actual data of game states and outcomes someone has gathered to convince me that something like a 1 percent chance to win at 20 minutes happens very often at all in say low gold I think it would have to be like one team is up 18-3 with 3 towers or something If you wanna give that one up sure but I see people wanting to ff at like 8-3 with one tower down and poo poo and that will just destroy your winrate
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Feb 20, 2022 18:02
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I hate the new champion
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I laned with a Renata Glasc last night who went got hit by every Lux Q in lane, went 1-13, and I don’t think used her ult at all. But at least she was chill and didn’t rage out. We lost hard but it was a fun game. Then I queued into ARAM to reset my mental, got Kha’zix, and feasted. 
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Stefan Prodan posted:I mean past games don't bother me so maybe I'm just speaking from personal experience I get a lot more bothered by my teammates giving up extra LP by giving up when they shouldn't than losing a hard fought match If you don't feel any emotional or energy drain from playing out lost games then that's an asset and you should take advantage of it but that's not the case for most people.
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I just had a Neeko feed three kills and then ragequit, complaining that Ahri hard counters Neeko and is just a "better character" and therefore automatically wins. We still fought to the bitter end.
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Taciturn Tactician posted:If you don't feel any emotional or energy drain from playing out lost games then that's an asset and you should take advantage of it but that's not the case for most people. Fair enough I guess, yeah it doesn't bother me at all, there's always something to work on even in a loss including the ability to focus and try and win
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verbal enema posted:I hate the new champion I hate that her name in Champ Select is "Renata Glasc" when no other champion has their first and last name displayed even if their full names are known.
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Coca Koala posted:I hate that her name in Champ Select is "Renata Glasc" when no other champion has their first and last name displayed even if their full names are known. Tahm Kench. It was originally a human's name that he took, so it's almost certainly a first and last name.
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First name: Nunu Last name: And Willump
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My friends call me Twisted. Also is MF the only champ mainly known by her surname?
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Taciturn Tactician posted:Tahm Kench. It was originally a human's name that he took, so it's almost certainly a first and last name. Well that one obviously doesn't count for reasons that are good and correct but unfortunately i'm super busy right now so i can't type them all up 
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njsykora posted:My friends call me Twisted. Also is MF the only champ mainly known by her surname? Malcolm Graves, Shieda Kayn, and Shauna Vayne all go by last name. E: also Jericho Swain Taciturn Tactician fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Feb 21, 2022 |
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Taciturn Tactician posted:Malcolm Graves, Shieda Kayn, and Shauna Vayne all go by last name. Kayn is questionable right, since it might be a given name like with Khada Jhin and Xan Irelia, where their first and last names follow Asian structure?
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Taciturn Tactician posted:Tahm Kench. It was originally a human's name that he took, so it's almost certainly a first and last name. true but its also a much less annoying name than renatas
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I think it's just because Renata Glasc is 4 syllables with a 5th pseudo-syllable at the end, which makes her the wordiest champ iirc. The other champs are 3 at most, so she just has this really long name that feels obnoxious compared to the rest of the cast.
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berenzen posted:I think it's just because Renata Glasc is 4 syllables with a 5th pseudo-syllable at the end, which makes her the wordiest champ iirc. The other champs are 3 at most, so she just has this really long name that feels obnoxious compared to the rest of the cast. Mordekaiser?
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How many times do i have to post about nunu & willump on this page
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Monicro posted:How many times do i have to post about nunu & willump on this page *nunu & william
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Defense of the Ancients two, a game made by Valve and founded by Gabe “New” Newellump
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Quinn will always have 'And Valor' after it in my heart.
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The "and" is a surname prefix in the language of the arctic steppe. Nunu and Willump is like Werner von Braun, he's Nunu of the noble family Willump.
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njsykora posted:My friends call me Twisted. Also is MF the only champ mainly known by her surname? Dr. Mundo *sounds* like his last name but also his first name could just be doctor because he rolls like that idk the lore
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Shawn Heimerdinger
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njsykora posted:My friends call me Twisted. He was too ashamed of being named Tobias.
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Tommy teemo
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Polderjoch posted:Kayn is questionable right, since it might be a given name like with Khada Jhin and Xan Irelia, where their first and last names follow Asian structure? Kayn's ethnicity is Noxian so it's kind of ambiguous there Firebert fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Feb 21, 2022 |
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Dr. Doctor Mundo, PhD, MD.
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Mundo is a doctor of homeopathic medicine.
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"malpractice makes malperfect" is such a goddamn good line that i have to wonder if it's from somewhere else
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Vermain posted:"malpractice makes malperfect" is such a goddamn good line that i have to wonder if it's from somewhere else It's in a 2020 Simpsons episode but the phrase appears before that, including in a Simpsons video game, it shows up as early as 2009 in blog posts. E: goes back way further, actually, a little more digging has it as a quote from Soloman Short in the 80s novel series "The War Against the Chtorr". Taciturn Tactician fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Feb 22, 2022 |
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