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what's the nationstate equivalent of the fencing response because you're gonna see america do it if they fight an actual military
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Feb 23, 2022 16:55
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Cpt_Obvious posted:lol, I went from a chad avatar to a chad avatar. Why did you steal Gradenko's avatar? This is going to get very confusing.
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Feb 23, 2022 16:55
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any new update in the last 500 posts
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Feb 23, 2022 16:55
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Morbus posted:I can think of a lot of reasons why an invasion would be an absolute horror show but long supply chains & unforgiving logistics aren't among them. War is horrific OP. Most westerners have never experienced the sheer terror of it.
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Feb 23, 2022 16:55
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indigi posted:is this a sincere "ethics in games journalism" post No. I must take this opportunity to express my support for jihad against games journalism.
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Feb 23, 2022 16:55
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Mantis42 posted:Sorry tankies, but the time has come to admit that Russia and NATO are BOTH poo poo and that Putin is also an imperialist warmonger. As an enlightened centrist, I must throw my support to the PRC, who has proven to be a stabilizing and fairhanded voice throughout this crisis.
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Feb 23, 2022 16:56
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Cpt_Obvious posted:lol, I went from a chad avatar to a chad avatar. Someone should shave off Crimea and the people's republics from the map of thee Ukraine bit by bit everytime a new avatar is bought.
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Feb 23, 2022 16:56
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Frosted Flake posted:lol neither of those are examples of war against a peer, or even near peer. Iraq crippled by the Iran-Iraq War and then Iraq crippled by the Gulf War and Sanctions is not remotely close to a peer. I'm not American nor am I in any way a fan of the US military machine but you have to be realistic.
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Feb 23, 2022 16:57
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mila kunis posted:any new update in the last 500 posts Nope. There was a "nordstream2 cancelled" post, which turned out to be actually still nothing.
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Feb 23, 2022 16:58
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lol “US logistics is second to none” The US hadn’t had to push logistics through routes interdicted by artillery fire since Korea. US soldiers haven’t had to disperse and camouflage logistics since Korea. The US hasn’t had to evacuate casualties by stretcher and then ground ambulance since Korea. US soldiers have been in the operating room of world class hospitals an hour after being wounded since Vietnam. US ammunition consumption rates are on average something like x4 the Cold War estimates. US soldiers’ individual loads are more than they can march with, and rely on echelon vehicles to seamlessly bring up their packs after a brisk 15 minute firefight, where they’ll have fired off a day’s worth of ammunition by 1980 standards. Jesus Christ. It’s easy to have the best logistics in the world if it’s assumed to operate totally unopposed. Remember Jessica Lynch? While the Iraqi Army was crumbling, they were still able to ambush her supply unit, overrun it, and disrupt US supplies to Nasiriyah for hours -essentially by accident.
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Feb 23, 2022 16:58
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Nordstream 2 Cancel Culture
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Feb 23, 2022 16:58
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Cpt_Obvious posted:lol, I went from a chad avatar to a chad avatar. lol owns
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Feb 23, 2022 16:59
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Flayer posted:Well of course it's not peer to peer - the American military has no peer. Yeah, nobody's had such a tremendous track record of losing to far inferior forces. Lostconfused posted:Why did you steal Gradenko's avatar? This is going to get very confusing. I'm just gonna post multi-page long excerpts from Teen Vogue.
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Feb 23, 2022 16:59
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Frosted Flake posted:lol “US logistics is second to none” I also have a problem with giant loads tbh
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Feb 23, 2022 17:01
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Morbus posted:I keep hearing Russias sUpPlY cHaInS & logistics brought up and can someone please explain to me what the gently caress they are talking about? The north, east, and southern borders are all friendly territory for Russia, where they can & have been able to stage whatever supplies they want. At no point would any supply line be longer than ~450 miles, and usually they would be under 200 miles. In the initial stages of any actual invasion, many objectives would be within range of weapons in Russia or Belarus. Kyiv is only ~80 miles from the Belarussian border! no, it's not the Ukranian border, it's that those Ruskis just too shitfaced drunk all the time to be able to run trains from the Urals!
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Feb 23, 2022 17:01
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Mantis42 posted:Sorry tankies, but the time has come to admit that Russia and NATO are BOTH poo poo and that Putin is also an imperialist warmonger. As an enlightened centrist, I must throw my support to the PRC, who has proven to be a stabilizing and fairhanded voice throughout this crisis. Nice try lib. Putin is actually Xi's double agent selling out his country to the perfidious Chinese  
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Feb 23, 2022 17:01
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extremely funny that there are enough "the Ukraine crisis will motivate Xi to take Taiwan" thunkpieces that there are two different graphics aiming for the same thing
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Feb 23, 2022 17:02
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The Iraqi Army had steel penetrators in their tank guns that literally could not penetrate US armour. It was not a testament to the invincibility of the JP8 guzzling Abrams. This hubris is loving unreal. I have been on NATO conventional war exercises and I’d love to see the Western conventional forces you describe, because what I’ve seen is a military worn out by losing counterinsurgencies, that has simultaneously lost any conventional warfare skills or experiences. US troops literally don’t dig trenches lol, how is that going to play against the world’s most proficient user of artillery?
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Feb 23, 2022 17:03
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Frosted Flake posted:The Iraqi Army had steel penetrators in their tank guns that literally could not penetrate US armour. It was not a testament to the invincibility of the JP8 guzzling Abrams. yeah, but did your NATO exercises have private ramirez who singlehandedly repelled a russian invasion by taking and holding a fighting position in a burger king
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Feb 23, 2022 17:04
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gradenko_2000 posted:extremely funny that there are enough "the Ukraine crisis will motivate Xi to take Taiwan" thunkpieces that there are two different graphics aiming for the same thing I can’t imagine this is shifting China’s thinking re: Taiwan at all, the situations are only extremely superficially comparable
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Feb 23, 2022 17:06
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gradenko_2000 posted:extremely funny that there are enough "the Ukraine crisis will motivate Xi to take Taiwan" thunkpieces that there are two different graphics aiming for the same thing Isn't Taiwan's separation from China mostly a generational thing? Like the older generation is mostly committed but the young are mostly wondering why they bother? I honestly don't know much about Taiwan so I could be talking out of my rear end.
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Feb 23, 2022 17:06
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Don't worry, I'm sure the Czar will handily defeat those rascally Japanese!
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Feb 23, 2022 17:09
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Zeroisanumber posted:Isn't Taiwan's separation from China mostly a generational thing? Like the older generation is mostly committed but the young are mostly wondering why they bother? every taiwanese person i've talked to about this sort of thing acts like independence is a pretty big deal to them. these are people in america though, so it might be a biased sample
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Feb 23, 2022 17:09
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Don't worry, I'm sure the Czar will handily defeat those rascally Japanese!
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Feb 23, 2022 17:10
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Lostconfused posted:The Germans promised to support him on this too. That was loving hilarious. Nicholas was such a dolt.
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Feb 23, 2022 17:11
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Are people really gonna skip over that someone in this thread posted "the reason america lost all those wars is that the enemy just wasn't organised enough"
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Feb 23, 2022 17:13
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indigi posted:I can’t imagine this is shifting China’s thinking re: Taiwan at all, the situations are only extremely superficially comparable yeah not only is the analogy really stupid because it's no deeper than "this is a place that the Big Baddie wants to conquer, so if Big Baddie One takes their prize, Big Baddie Two might take theirs!"... ... it's also really loving insulting even from the perspective of a RAH RAH USA NUMBER ONE maniac because it assumes that the US military isn't capable of taking on two powers at the same time indeed, Ukraine and Taiwan are even tailor-made for such a challenge, because one is a land-ward conflict, and the other is a seaward conflict
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Feb 23, 2022 17:13
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Lostconfused posted:The Germans promised to support him on this too. Thank you for at least changing the color on the new avatars.
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Feb 23, 2022 17:13
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i’m getting the impression that people think “Conventional War” means “Bomb the Iraqi Army unopposed for weeks, then shoot them up at night when they don’t have NV/TI, and their rounds can’t penetrate armour” and not “entire brigade is hit by MRLS because we’re addicted to GPS/Radios and everybody had their cell phones with them, vehicles weren’t camouflaged or dispersed, nobody had dug trenches, so now carry casualties to an aid station by stretcher under fire because no way in hell helicopters can fly” 
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Feb 23, 2022 17:13
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Bedshaped posted:Are people really gonna skip over that someone in this thread posted "the reason america lost all those wars is that the enemy just wasn't organised enough" it’s dumb. there i said it.
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Feb 23, 2022 17:14
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gradenko_2000 posted:
I'm writing the greatest wapo op-ed of all time rn
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Feb 23, 2022 17:15
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Zeroisanumber posted:Isn't Taiwan's separation from China mostly a generational thing? Like the older generation is mostly committed but the young are mostly wondering why they bother? Not really, older generations are "we should be unified and we should be the government and also, free unicorns" and younger generations are relatively split between normalized relations with a Chinese/Taiwanese dual identity and total Taiwanese separation. The younger generation is not hostile to China but has very little interest in being under the PRC's government, if that makes sense
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Feb 23, 2022 17:16
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spacemang_spliff posted:I also have a problem with giant loads tbh huh, you didn't inherit this from your mom.
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Feb 23, 2022 17:21
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mila kunis posted:any new update in the last 500 posts Yeah, the president addressed the nation. We'll be bombing in five minutes.
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Feb 23, 2022 17:22
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Zeroisanumber posted:Isn't Taiwan's separation from China mostly a generational thing? Like the older generation is mostly committed but the young are mostly wondering why they bother? my understanding is that an explicit declaration of independence is largely out of the cards because Taiwan is well aware of the political turmoil it would trigger and would like to avoid that at the same time, there's no real threat of the PRC invading Taiwan - the PRC has no reason to do so; any military conflict would simply damage the island and kill people for no real benefit, and they have to know that the long-run outcome of the economics is greater and greater integration (one might say dependence) until full reintegration becomes a fait acompli
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Feb 23, 2022 17:22
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Frosted Flake posted:no way in hell helicopters can fly actually, helicopters are hellspawn which is the reason they fly
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Feb 23, 2022 17:22
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Zeroisanumber posted:That was loving hilarious. Nicholas was such a dolt. please don't be ableist *orders the imperial guard to shoot the angry mob outside my palace*
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Feb 23, 2022 17:24
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The only problem with Taiwan is that you have to expect USA to do something incredibly stupid eventually.
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Feb 23, 2022 17:24
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Lostconfused posted:The only problem with Taiwan is that you have to expect USA to do something incredibly stupid eventually. lmfao it's spreading
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Feb 23, 2022 17:26
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gradenko_2000 posted:lmfao it's spreading lmfao
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