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the popes toes posted:Yeah, like that Russian kid wandering around out in the middle of nowhere that the Ukrainian (farmer?) confronted. I was wondering, "Where the gently caress is this kid's unit? Is he separated? Is he lost? By himself?" He didn't even have a weapon in his hands. Though the way that interaction went they may have just told him to drop it and he complied.
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Terminal autist posted:If some random council member in NYC take matters thats bad It doesn't, at least as a matter of international politics.
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Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:https://twitter.com/NewVoiceUkraine/status/1497404109552562178 It's not going well yet the position of these successful defenses continues to move toward the heart of the capital
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I read the Kazakhstan thing as just trying to drag in some allies for face saving reasons, but it's pretty funny they said no.khwarezm posted:Would we have reason to assume they have their full capacity?
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Mokotow posted:Hey! Sorry for brief answers im in the car in a field. Yes, every male is getting turned around at the border Just want to add how much I admire you and your efforts. It's inspiring to read your updates from 1/2 the globe away, stay safe.
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sweet geek swag posted:I'm actually impressed that Zelensky is still in Ukraine. That takes guts, and he's probably going to suffer for it. Considering his background he's doing about as well as can be expected in this sort of situation. Agree, he definitely has guts. I hope he gets his family out though - I can understand him wanting the symbolism of staying in the capital - but I don't think anyone, even his opponents, would begrudge getting them out of harms way, especially as they will likely be prime targets for capture, to use as leverage against him.
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KitConstantine posted:God drat gen z just don't have the patience for prolonged military engagements because of the tik toks. Lazy asses can only take a couple days of being hungry and under fire before they try to do poo poo like "get food" and "steal civilian clothes so they can run away" As much as I would like to believe reports like this, I wouldn't trust them out of hand. There was at least one video where a Russian soldier near Kharkiv wanted to hide in someone's basement, but I wouldn't conclude that this type of behaviour is widespread. And even then, the video could have also been staged as part of psyop. From the other side, Russia tells stories about people greeting Russian soldiers with flowers in every town with no fighting whatsoever, but the best they can produce is a handful of videos where one or two people wave at tanks, which is nowhere near the level of how 'gentle people' were greeted in Crimea according to Russian media at the time. Paladinus fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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Paladinus posted:As much as I would like to believe reports like this, I wouldn't trust them out of hand. There was at least one video where a Russian soldier near Kharkiv wanted to hide in someone's basement, but I wouldn't conclude that this type of behaviour is widespread. And even then, the video could have also been staged as part of psyop. Massive disinfo all around. I would wait on all claims until there is a good photo or video to analyze
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Paladinus posted:As much as I would like to believe reports like this, I wouldn't trust them out of hand. There was at least one video where a Russian soldier near Kharkiv wanted to hide in someone's basement, but I wouldn't conclude that this type of behaviour is widespread. And even then, the video could have also been staged as part of psyop. The sourcing chain is also kinda sketchy.
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If I had grown up with Reagan id probably be pro Soviet too
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Paladinus posted:As much as I would like to believe reports like this, I wouldn't trust them out of hand. There was at least one video where a Russian soldier near Kharkiv wanted to hide in someone's basement, but I wouldn't conclude that this type of behaviour is widespread. And even then, the video could have also been staged as part of psyop. Yeah, it seems a bit too good to be true. It really does fit with the lazy/short attention span millenial/gen z poo poo that goes thrown around too which is both funny and upsetting
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Despera posted:If I had grown up with Reagan id probably be pro Soviet too Not so funnily a lot of people who grew up with Soviet government turned very pro-Reagan.
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Terminal autist posted:The fact of the matter is were living in the American world order I wish my countries opinion didnt matter and had no power to affect change in the situation. If some random council member in NYC take matters thats bad Is this thinking not its own form of American exceptionalism though? Every thing that happens in the world gets put through a lens of American influence and power? If the purpose of applying such a lens is to find actionable problems or parallels that change our perspective or that you or I can affect then OK, but otherwise it's literally wanking for the nth time about how bad the US is while people are getting killed. E: these supposed leftist takes contribute nothing; at best they're preaching to a choir and at worst it's straight up imperialist apologia. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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OddObserver posted:Not so funnily a lot of people who grew up with Soviet government turned very pro-Reagan. A bunch of post-Soviet emigres in the US voted for Trump too Had a good argument recently about how no, Bernie Sanders was not planning on nationalizing the flower industry.
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Can I get that gang tag? The OP is like, half my comments lol
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https://twitter.com/felix_light/status/1497407754855612420 Bombing Kyiv might be beyond the pale for some previously loyal lawmakers. Sir Bobert Fishbone fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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FishBulbia posted:A bunch of post-Soviet emigres in the US voted for Trump too Socialismo!
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HonorableTB posted:Can I get that gang tag? The OP is like, half my comments lol Reminder: Post gangtag requests in the Ukraine Aid thread.
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https://twitter.com/SputnikInt/status/1497381414588715009?t=0tBhkxXigS3zAykS8U3O0w&s=19 I wonder if they started off being careful about target selection and are lowering their standards, or if it's been pretty indiscriminate bombing in the first place. Either way it's obvious that they're starting to feel the need to build the foundation to explain away civilian casualties.
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Grouchio posted:Isn't that just going to lead to Putin shutting off all of America's grid in response? Its a joke.
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One of the Kyiv street cams is just the camera a CNN reporter is using, he's popped up on the feed a couple times and it blacks out whenever he's on the air
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Tigey posted:Agree, he definitely has guts. I hope he gets his family out though - I can understand him wanting the symbolism of staying in the capital - but I don't think anyone, even his opponents, would begrudge getting them out of harms way, especially as they will likely be prime targets for capture, to use as leverage against him. Its so bizarre to think that any leader of any country in the 21st century being put in a situation where they are having a final stand in the capital city against invading forces. The closest that comes to mind is Gaddafi getting killed in the Libyan civil war and Ali Abdullah Saleh getting killed by a sniper when he was trying to take control of Sana'a, but in both those case they were killed by their own countrymen and not an invading foreign army.
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This Ghost of Kyiv thing is odd because I remember it forming and evolving in real-time. First there was a video of a Ukrainian jet flying over some buildings with what I was told was a Russian jet nearby. A few people commented that the Ukrainian pilot must have been crazy brave because they were flying in essentially hostile airspace, hopelessly outmanned but smart enough to avoid Russian AA somehow. Then there were tales of that fighter taking down Russian planes, first it was two, then four, then six, etc. Then the video of "proof" of the Ukrainian's feats which was revealed to be from some video game. Now it's an overnight myth, but that original video of the pilot on essentially a suicide mission to harass Russian jets was the original, real Ghost of Kyiv from which these legends were spawned, wasn't it?
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Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:https://twitter.com/felix_light/status/1497407754855612420 Guess Putin is going to have to show him true decommunization too
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Terminal autist posted:The american army is carrying exponentially more bodies than any other army on the planet and you morons are cheer leading the current war lmao So? I didn't cheer lead the invasion of Iraq or Afghanistan. Quite the opposite, I got shot with rubber bullets in protesting poo poo like that. Just because American neo-liberal adventurism is a thing, it does not follow that, for example, the American war on Nazism and Japanese militarism during the Second World War was somehow wrong. My grandfather fought in that war for the United States and I am proud as gently caress of his service in that war. More importantly, just because America carries its own crimes, it does not mean that when the United States suddenly gets something right and stands up to what is frankly an insane fascist in the Russian Federation who still thinks this is 1900 and he can gobble up his smaller neighbors with his army, it does not follow that I ought to go out and shout about how the world should let Putin do whatever the gently caress he wants to whomever he wants. Fascist dictators who murder their political opponents on foreign soil with nerve agents, invade their neighbors because 'greater Russia!', and use cluster bombs on loving hospitals do not just become 'good guys' because their own imperialist clepto-capitalist mafia state is strategically aligned against the United States. If I can be frank with you, this kind of attitude is intellectually dishonest and is one of the primary problems with the new left almost everywhere. PS. Not to continuously bring this up, but I am a member of the CPUSA; and believe me, I've had some pretty loving scathing words with party members over their stance on this issue. ZombieLenin fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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Hooray for the Russian Communist Party! 
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This is from yesterday but I just want to throw out how loving weird this is https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1496908718268690434?s=20&t=zjC-fAkf5u5gfc4Njn_ZjQ actual American political figure actually using the phrase "legitimate ethnic problems" to actually attempt to justify Putin's actual actions in the actual TYOOL 2022
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Terminal autist posted:The american army is carrying exponentially more bodies than any other army on the planet and you morons are cheer leading the current war lmao You are statistically incorrect and you have no idea of the casualty numbers involved in other wars happening during the modern era. You are dangerously delusional. Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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hump day bitches! posted:DHsV is an acronym is Ukrainian, VdV in Russian. Soviet VDV became Russian VDV, Kazakhstan VDV, Ukrainian DShV, and so on (skipping intermediate term versions to current changes). When Eastern Europeans talk to each other about air assault infantry forces, "VDV" is frequently used as a shorthand. Doesn't matter if that's Ukrainian DShV or US Army Airborne Corps that you're talking about. "VDV" is simply the universal slang for paratroopers. Consequently, if you review previous conversations on Hostomel airport fight, you'll see people saying stuff like "Russian 31st VDV", which:
For the same reason, "45th UA VDV Spetsnaz", instead of "Reconnaissance Company of 45th Air Assault Brigade of the Ukrainian Air Assault Forces". This is super pedantic indeed. To recap some previous points in the conversation, I'd like to briefly summarize the Hostomel timeline (and to note that we have way more sources for that engagement than the coffee guys):
Speaking of Hostomel, looks like the fabled 200 helicopter assault was indeed completely made up.
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Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:https://twitter.com/felix_light/status/1497407754855612420 Cool. I hope more come out of the woodwork to oppose it. As an added benefit, it would be even nicer if it helped break Zyuganov's hold on the party. Not holding my breath, but I can dream.
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Terminal autist posted:The american army is carrying exponentially more bodies than any other army on the planet and you morons are cheer leading the current war lmao speaking of cheerleading Terminal autist posted:Hopefully the war is quick and as bloodless as possible. Its increasingly clear the West and NATO only view Ukraine as a pawn in the most cynical chess game around. bruh
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Majorian posted:Cool. I hope more come out of the woodwork to oppose it. It's OK, from reports it sounds like Zyuganov can't hold his own breath these days.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:This is from yesterday but I just want to throw out how loving weird this is And he called it the Ukraine. I would say he's stupid but there's no doubt he's made some money with takes like these.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:This is from yesterday but I just want to throw out how loving weird this is CHUDs trying to blame Biden for this war is extremely weird and often extremely racist when someone asks them to explain themselves (but often they will just give that information freely).
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LifeLynx posted:This Ghost of Kyiv thing is odd because I remember it forming and evolving in real-time. First there was a video of a Ukrainian jet flying over some buildings with what I was told was a Russian jet nearby. A few people commented that the Ukrainian pilot must have been crazy brave because they were flying in essentially hostile airspace, hopelessly outmanned but smart enough to avoid Russian AA somehow. Then there were tales of that fighter taking down Russian planes, first it was two, then four, then six, etc. Then the video of "proof" of the Ukrainian's feats which was revealed to be from some video game. Now it's an overnight myth, but that original video of the pilot on essentially a suicide mission to harass Russian jets was the original, real Ghost of Kyiv from which these legends were spawned, wasn't it? I remember someone in this thread making a very excited compilation of random looking pieces of Twitter jet fighting.
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