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brains posted:it's less surprise over ukraine's ability to generate sorties and more about the world's 2nd largest air force's inability to establish air control days after a planned invasion. and then still doing airborne ops in hostile airspace. it's mind boggling. I'm reminded of this clip from The Good Shepherd: https://clip.cafe/the-good-shepherd-2006/soviet-power-a-myth/
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I did not expect Zilensky to rise to the occasion like this. I can’t imagine many world leaders actually putting themselves in danger at all much less basically going down with the ship like he probably will. I figured he was just another oligarch puppet but just a bit sharper in how he played Russia vs NATO, though obviously he thought Putin was much more of a rational actor than seems to be the case.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 17:30 |
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CBJSprague24 posted:CNN says the US believes Putin has "50% of his total assembled power" in Ukraine as of now. If true that’s really bad for Russia they may not even actually hold Kyiv for any length of time at this rate.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 17:33 |
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I wonder if the linguistic and ethnic similarities will cause a defection problem. Cause it's not like Russians are going to defect in Syria and not very immediately get caught by someone. In lots of Ukraine they could just change their clothes and pop into the pub without even looking out of place. Hell a lot of them probably even have family in Ukraine.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 17:39 |
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You'd probably wanna surrender formally what with the saboteur paranoia and mandatory military service conscription of 18-60yolds going on tbh
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 17:47 |
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Some interesting stuff I noticed when checking out the video of Ukrainian forces fighting near Ivankiv. https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/1497598058170834948 The location is correct. They seem to be fighting at this large roundabout : https://www.google.com/maps/@50.950592,29.8851703,15.31z west of Ivankiv and they're dug in on the western leg of the roundabout battling Russian forces coming from the north. If this footage is from today or yesterday, then I'm surprised that there were Ukraine troops so far north of Kyiv and in a position to directly harass and disturb the Russians main MSR on the west side of the Dnieper. Russian troops might have reached as far south as Hostomel and Bucha but it seems their supply routes could still be vulnerable.
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I just saw unverified footage of Ukrainian troops with a captured Russian T-72. The radio was still functioning and belting out Russian comms.
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Blind Rasputin posted:Those weren’t mobile crematoriums they were battalion tactical bread makers. the silver lining being if the russians can't even keep their T-15 Armata operational how the hell are they going to have time to bake the
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davecrazy posted:Is C-SPAM so far left that they’ve boomeranged around to supporting a right wing fascist dictator doing an illegal invasion? I’d believe it, some far left folk I’ve known in the Seattle area can wind up with bizarre ideas from their echo chamber. One guy thought all white people should be made to leave the city, except he’d be granted an exception for his work for socialist candidates. He also became fixated on the idea of running his small business in a way to minimize profit because of something Chapo said, until his wife yelled at him that they had a baby and only had health insurance because of her crazy hours and that no he would not be adopting a 15 hour work week. He’s gotten better since then.
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Fragrag posted:If this footage is from today or yesterday, then I'm surprised that there were Ukraine troops so far north of Kyiv and in a position to directly harass and disturb the Russians main MSR on the west side of the Dnieper. Russian troops might have reached as far south as Hostomel and Bucha but it seems their supply routes could still be vulnerable.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 18:04 |
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Lincoln Brigade 2.0 https://twitter.com/shaneharris/status/1497617126215012356?s=21
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 18:05 |
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Duzzy Funlop posted:edit: Agreed with the rest of your post but on this, nah, take it from me, gently caress Gravel "Institute". I was an early supporter and was happy to see them say they were going to attempt to take Prager U's bullshit head on, but all they've done is get high on their own supply and put out their own terrible bullshit that sells false narratives. A lot of these assholes seem to think just because they want Medicare for all, they're also righteous about everything else. Jarmak posted:I wonder if the linguistic and ethnic similarities will cause a defection problem. There was that video posted a day ago of a Ukrainian telling a Russian soldier that if he wanted to drop his gear and change into civvies, he'd hide him in his house from his unit till he could turn himself over to Ukrainian forces. Otherwise, gently caress off and I'll shoot back at you if you shoot at me. Can't imagine stuff like that was an isolated incident. Hyrax Attack! posted:I’d believe it, some far left folk I’ve known in the Seattle area can wind up with bizarre ideas from their echo chamber. One guy thought all white people should be made to leave the city, except he’d be granted an exception for his work for socialist candidates. He also became fixated on the idea of running his small business in a way to minimize profit because of something Chapo said, until his wife yelled at him that they had a baby and only had health insurance because of her crazy hours and that no he would not be adopting a 15 hour work week. He’s gotten better since then. Genuinely believe the cure for a lot of this kind of stupidity is to "log off".
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psydude posted:I just saw unverified footage of Ukrainian troops with a captured Russian T-72. The radio was still functioning and belting out Russian comms. The Ukranians should start telling the Russians to defect and join them. And/or poo poo talk them like the Chechens did in Grozny.
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A couple of Danish journalists in the hospital after getting shot art in their car. https://twitter.com/Knud_brix/status/1497616879178948620
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psydude posted:Yeah, but they're not going to help Russia evade sanctions and risk having their industry crippled by the US.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 18:14 |
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My gf works in the NGO space around civilian casualties and her Ukrainian colleagues have been giving updates via Zoom. She said the last Zoom session ended with a Ukrainian colleague very calmly asking to go first because they had to go to a bomb shelter and the whole time they were talking you could just hear air raid sirens in the background. The "good" news is they are okay and are now slacking quote "videos of IHL violations" to everyone daily.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 18:29 |
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Based on that last interview Ukrainian morale seems high. https://twitter.com/terrelljstarr/status/1497514654242910209
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 18:39 |
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https://twitter.com/carments/status/1497594825167810562?s=21
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 18:46 |
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:I did not expect Zilensky to rise to the occasion like this. I can’t imagine many world leaders actually putting themselves in danger at all much less basically going down with the ship like he probably will. I figured he was just another oligarch puppet but just a bit sharper in how he played Russia vs NATO, though obviously he thought Putin was much more of a rational actor than seems to be the case. I mean, the alternatives at this point for him are die defending Ukraine, somehow survive a miraculous defense and the Russian military collapse, or flee wondering if he was important enough to be sent some polonium from Putin.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 18:46 |
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I'm kinda assuming the reasoning behind that posting is people so conditioned to anti-US leftist-posting that they swing for the fences on every single thing and end up massively overshooting reality, and then just dying on that hill. Yeah, this is how I feel. It also kinda makes me sick to be cheering on Ukranian freedom fighters when it's very likely we could have done far more (via diplomacy, dissuasion, or by not moving US ships out of the way leading up to the invasion) to prevent war in the first place. But...not so bad that I'm all "now putin is my friend!"
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 19:03 |
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Wonder if Ukraine has bagged a general yet. With the level of bungling so far seems inevitable.
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brains posted:the world's 2nd largest air force's When did the US navy get involved?
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Wonder if Ukraine has bagged a general yet. With the level of bungling so far seems inevitable. I think that's what's crazy about this. We had this idea the Russians were just going to roll over them but they've managed to continually gently caress things up. Not to discount the fighting spirit of the Ukrainians. I think the Russians thought they would roll up a couple cities and the rest would fold, but the exact opposite has happened. The Ukrainians managed to mobilize the entire country into a resistance and are making the Russians pay for every inch. I think they massively underestimated the Ukrainians desire for freedom and autonomy.
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El Mero Mero posted:Yeah, this is how I feel. It also kinda makes me sick to be cheering on Ukranian freedom fighters when it's very likely we could have done far more (via diplomacy, dissuasion, or by not moving US ships out of the way leading up to the invasion) to prevent war in the first place. But...not so bad that I'm all "now putin is my friend!" Yeah it’s weird to me how you arrive at the valid conclusion that the United States is often a bad actor and somewhat responsible for a lot of bad situations especially in the Middle East and Latin America but then somehow Putins Russia isn’t responsible for Ukraine
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Tiny Timbs posted:The response from leftist organizations during this has been utterly absurd. How do they retain any credibility? That's deeply, deeply disappointing.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 19:30 |
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:Yeah it’s weird to me how you arrive at the valid conclusion that the United States is often a bad actor and somewhat responsible for a lot of bad situations especially in the Middle East and Latin America but then somehow Putins Russia isn’t responsible for Ukraine Propaganda. Propaganda works.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Wonder if Ukraine has bagged a general yet. With the level of bungling so far seems inevitable. If Ukraine doesn't then Putin probably will.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:That's deeply, deeply disappointing. Someone posted this elsewhere but it's from a Ukrainian Leftist basically calling this poo poo out for what it is. https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/a-letter-to-the-western-left-from-kyiv/
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:Yeah it’s weird to me how you arrive at the valid conclusion that the United States is often a bad actor and somewhat responsible for a lot of bad situations especially in the Middle East and Latin America but then somehow Putins Russia isn’t responsible for Ukraine Only the West has agency. This is somehow a leftist and non-paternalist view.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 19:36 |
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Russia will forever be known after this as the paper bear. Ukraine the blue and golden lion.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 19:42 |
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An injury to one is an injury to all is not just about workplace safety.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 19:47 |
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brains posted:world's 2nd largest air force's That reminds me of in Tomorrow Never Dies when someone mentions how the world’s largest Air Force (China) was about to fight the world’s largest navy (UK) and I don’t think the screenwriters fact checked that.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 19:49 |
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I went ahead and ordered a nice MiG-29 model kit and aftermarket Ukrainian markings to put on it. I want the Ghost of Kyiv to be real. Russia's inability to secure air superiority got me thinking and I wonder how accurate the following scenario might be: Maybe most of Russia's air force is grounded for maintenance reasons and the key supplier for the parts they need is Ukraine.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 19:52 |
That Works posted:https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1497570179026403329?s=20&t=NPS97K6QaJSRgiartcgkmg This owns
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:This owns I ran the signs through Google Translate and got the following results: "ON THE COCK" "ON THE gently caress AGAIN" "TO RUSSIA FOR gently caress"
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McNally posted:I ran the signs through Google Translate and got the following results: Strong "Berserker" vibes.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 19:55 |
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McNally posted:I went ahead and ordered a nice MiG-29 model kit and aftermarket Ukrainian markings to put on it. I want the Ghost of Kyiv to be real. One thing that always made me think is how hard it can be to maintain US military equipment despite having the best logistics and a monstrous budget, so if anything I'd imagine it would be much worse for any country that doesn't have those kind of resources to throw at a modern war.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 19:56 |
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Jokers Gamble posted:I think that's what's crazy about this. We had this idea the Russians were just going to roll over them but they've managed to continually gently caress things up. Not to discount the fighting spirit of the Ukrainians. I think the Russians thought they would roll up a couple cities and the rest would fold, but the exact opposite has happened. The Ukrainians managed to mobilize the entire country into a resistance and are making the Russians pay for every inch. I think they massively underestimated the Ukrainians desire for freedom and autonomy. The same thing appeared to happen with the Donbas poo poo-stirring - there's a decent argument that Russia got into that with the expectation that there was going to be more ethnic Russian unity and support. If you look at the map of primarily Russian speaking areas in Ukraine, it's a much much larger map than the map of people who identify more with Russia than Ukraine. Putin may be huffing his own farts about the idea of how much people who speak Russian yearn for the return of the glorious Russian empire.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 19:56 |
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Germany finally dropping the bullshit and sending weapons itself. https://mobile.twitter.com/Bundeskanzler/status/1497632817450266632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Ukraine's Defense Minister is telling Reuters that the march on Kiev is "not advancing". I guess this was countered by Russia spouting some bullshit about pausing to afford peace talks.
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