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TheRat posted:No, it really isn't. No Fly Zone is equivalent to full scale war between NATO and Russia. It's not a thing. That's what I mean, it's a fringe push by people with no political credibility who don't understand the implications.
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Morrow posted:That's what I mean, it's a fringe push by people with no political credibility who don't understand the implications. Sorry, misunderstood. My mistake.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:Still can't load Moscow stock market site. 
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Dante posted:What do you mean? What action? Russia is an OPEC export competitor, not a net importer. What really hosed up Venezuela and also Russia to a lesser extent in 2014 was the saudis increasing production to drive American shale companies out of business. If they did that it would gently caress would russias one remaining revenue source v badly and put the last nail in the Russian economy’s coffin but no I don’t think they’ll do it.
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Spoke to friend who owned my favorite cafe in my town in Western Ukraine. He sent his wife and daughter to Prague. He returned to the cafe to make the best coffee and sweets and that "We are strong because God is with us." He also said, "You no want come to us?" and I broke down completely.
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Mercury Ballistic posted:This was what I was thinking, KSA could up production but they seem content to ride the price up. KSA’s an autocratic government that likes loving with its neighbors and executing dissidents abroad. Only way theyll self-sacrifice with Russia is if Biden leans on them much harder than Biden will because of the potential for backfiring (hmm even higher gas prices in an election year with his approval ratings where they are.)
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the popes toes posted:https://twitter.com/francska1/status/1497954962915082247 Look, it worked for North Korea and it will work here too!
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jiggerypokery posted:Imagine decades of getting into bed with the Saudis not paying off when you need them... Yeah, boy, who could have seen that blowing up in our faces.  Content: https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1498015197713338379
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Yeah and there has been a lot of talk of the Russians trying to cut off power as well. I think it's pretty clear that Russia doesn't give a single gently caress about optics
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the popes toes posted:Even the Swiss are sufficiently pissed to forgo a little skimming: So to make a bulk commodity contract you have to have these. Basically these are I’ll give x of this currency and you give me y of that currency on such and such dates or good for x period of time. Basically they are necessities for arranging bulk shipments internationally.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I think it's pretty clear that Russia doesn't give a single gently caress about optics They do, they just didn't expect optics to be a risk. The plan was for this all to be over by now.
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KSA should also be cutoff from the global economy next tbh Next level shithead that MBS
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I think it's pretty clear that Russia doesn't give a single gently caress about optics Is it? There are tons of videos of civilians going up to soldiers and even blocking off roads without any retaliation. They clearly still have a few fucks to give.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:KSA’s an autocratic government that likes loving with its neighbors and executing dissidents abroad. Only way theyll self-sacrifice with Russia is if Biden leans on them much harder than Biden will because of the potential for backfiring (hmm even higher gas prices in an election year with his approval ratings where they are.) They're also involved in a west-supporter genocide of their own for a while now, so they're probably not too fussed.
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Looks like Kiev is not encircled after all. For now. https://twitter.com/johannesboie/status/1498016772829679621
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https://twitter.com/CivMilAir/status/1497994166495817728?s=20&t=lqHJAfxg74M9mZF_CXvDjg Aeroflot to KJFK is returning to Moscow, Tuesday flight cancelled.
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TulliusCicero posted:KSA should also be cutoff from the global economy next tbh I guess the economy doesn't run on oil anymore.
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Mokotow posted:https://twitter.com/CivMilAir/status/1497994166495817728?s=20&t=lqHJAfxg74M9mZF_CXvDjg No Manhattan shopping for you, assclowns!
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Old James posted:Look, it worked for North Korea and it will work here too! Or frankly the Soviet Union. The whole notion of "Socialism in one country" came out of this line of thought, and it worked well at turning Russia from a backwater European semi-agricultural state into an industrial super power in 30 years--something that took centuries in Western Europe; however, even with the Soviet 'Empire" it fairly quickly stagnated and collapsed in on itself. Socialism in one country was never going to work and trying it handed capitalism an easy win. Clepto-capitalist mafia state sure as hell isn't going to work in Russia sans empire.
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Looks like the Aeroflot cancellation to the US is due to Iceland and Denmark telling them to idi na huj.
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Paracausal posted:https://twitter.com/PutinIsAVirus/status/1498013700543983619 Jesus.  I was skeptical of the numbers I was seeing, but I figured hey, important to keep up Ukrainian morale and all that.But if that wasn't just propaganda, yikes.
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jiggerypokery posted:Imagine decades of getting into bed with the Saudis not paying off when you need them... We aren't in bed with Saudi Arabia in the sense that we have in the past, especially with what's going on with Iran. That's absolutely 100% the opposite of what they want America doing and it's pissing them off.
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Majorian posted:Jesus. In WW1 the French lost like 250,000 people in two weeks in like august 1914. In the invasion of Belgium the Belgian forces initially held out valiantly against the Germans to the point that there were so many bodies that successive assaults were able to use them as cover to assault their forts. I’m not sure what Russias tolerance for casualties is but it may take a lot more killing before they give up.
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Majorian posted:Jesus. The numbers are now removed and twitter people are speculating that it was done by a hacker
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Vaginaface posted:Is anyone reporting Ukrainian losses? Its 16 martyrs so far.
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Paracausal posted:https://twitter.com/PutinIsAVirus/status/1498013700543983619 Yeah, not there now as far as I can tell. TASS would never do this institutionally. So either a hack or some brave fool.
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BigglesSWE posted:No Manhattan shopping for you, assclowns! Enjoy your summer holidays on the Yakutsk riviera!
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Blurred posted:Protests erupting in Minsk today: I was thinking the same about Chechnya. With their "crack" forces out of town (and getting decimated) this might trigger an uprising against Kadyrov.
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Kraftwerk posted:In WW1 the French lost like 250,000 people in two weeks in like august 1914 Wow that sucks. Were they ever found?
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Paracausal posted:https://twitter.com/PutinIsAVirus/status/1498013700543983619 They are reporting Ukranian casualties. quote:According to him, the leaders of the Kiev regime will inevitably bear severe responsibility. "All faces, voices, phones, their coordinates, IP addresses, as well as the correspondence of all Ukrainian Nazis involved in the abuse of our comrades are recorded and identified. This also applies to the leaders of the Kiev regime and their executors who directly call for abuse of Russian military personnel in violation of the convention on the treatment of prisoners of war. All of you will be found and will inevitably bear severe responsibility," he said.
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Calibanibal posted:Wow that sucks. Were they ever found? Oh they turn up every now and again during the plowing.
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https://twitter.com/shaunwalker7/status/1497989838523482116?t=3TiKEjnkt_KtD31lC3HUSw&s=19 Ukraine is so loving good at the PR game, it's incredible
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nifxKIhFSuw The usual caveats about this essentially being propaganda, but morale among Russian troops does not look good, and I think a lot of them were genuinely blindsided by the fact that they were actually sent to attack Ukraine.
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Majorian posted:Jesus. It wasn't propaganda, Ukrainian reporting has been pretty accurate - outside of stuff like the Ghost of Kiev at least.
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Seph posted:If Kyiv gets encircled, would it be at all possible to airdrop supplies (food/water) to residents, considering that Russia doesn't really have air superiority? No. Absolutely not. The city is too big, Ukraine doesn't have the air transport capability, and anyone trying to fly transports over Ukraine is going to be easy targets for Russian aircraft and air defenses.
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Calibanibal posted:Wow that sucks. Were they ever found? They were hiding in the fields of Verdun
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