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Hey, I'm in the credits for Aperture Desk Job. My first ever media credit
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# ? May 25, 2024 00:42 |
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Quantum of Phallus posted:
#fired4truth ColdPie posted:Hey, I'm in the credits for Aperture Desk Job. My first ever media credit nice
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 14:09 |
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Initial impressions, overall positive?
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 15:45 |
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For Slay the Spire, you may want to set it to touchscreen mode in settings, if it doesn’t default to that. It has an separate UI mode that behaves better with a finger than a mouse.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 16:55 |
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Can you not play it with the gamepad controls? Cause the switch version plays great, faster than with a mouse once you get used to it
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 17:15 |
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If you're doing Slay the Spire touch screen tests, could you please try Dicey Dungeons if you have it? I've been waiting for a fix to the 'end turn' button issue that skips your turn. Here is a description: https://steamcommunity.com/app/861540/discussions/0/3108018050526099687/
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 17:35 |
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flavor.flv posted:Can you not play it with the gamepad controls? Cause the switch version plays great, faster than with a mouse once you get used to it Yeah those work. They specified touchscreen though.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 17:46 |
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KakerMix posted:Microsoft MS has bee moving stuff off their own launchers and into steam. Phil Spencer has gone out of is way to praise the deck and has talked with Valve about getting Game Pass into Steam (and potentially into the Deck). Microsoft doesn't care about keeping you in Windows if you're sending them money.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 17:53 |
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Microsoft sells stuff on Steam to make buying games look bad in comparison to subscribing to Game Pass. The future that Microsoft wants is one where the only way to install software is to buy it or (preferably) rent it from Microsoft, and they've shipped multiple versions of Windows where this is your only choice. The reason the Steam Deck exists at all is to protect Valve from this future by divorcing the Steam store from the Windows platform, and the whole reason why it is a niche portable low-power gaming device is that it allows Valve to hand-wave away all the compatibility issues brought on by not using Windows in the first place. Microsoft will never lift a finger to help any games run on the Steam Deck, future Microsoft games will probably be actively designed not work on Proton, and they're probably looking into intellectual property lawsuits regarding Wine or Steam's transcoding of Microsoft codecs or whatever right now in order to kill off the Steam Deck entirely.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 19:34 |
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pseudorandom name posted:Microsoft sells stuff on Steam to make buying games look bad in comparison to subscribing to Game Pass. you: "microsoft only wants gamepass on windows and will actively do work to block it on from working anywhere else, here's absolutely zero sources" phil spencer (ceo of microsoft gaming): https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/1426324572626845697?s=20&t=q9Kv4nkAwy1Wbkik2yw81A https://www.polygon.com/22954890/steam-deck-xbox-game-pass-pc-games-valve-microsoft quote:Newell said that Valve and Microsoft have spoken already about selling Game Pass subscriptions on Steam. “If your customers want it, then you should figure out how to make it happen,” he told PC Gamer. “That’s where we’re at.” https://www.gamesradar.com/xbox-everywhere-phil-spencer-wants-an-xbox-app-on-as-many-devices-as-possible/ quote:Xbox Everywhere: Phil Spencer wants an Xbox app on as many devices as possible um, hmm, well
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 19:48 |
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You do understand the concept of lying, right? Here's a simple question for you: Which world would Microsoft prefer: one where software can be purchased from somebody other than Microsoft, or one where all software must be rented from Microsoft?
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 19:54 |
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Microsoft doesn't care where you play their games, so long as you're giving them money. If they can get Gamepass on Steam, they'll do it. Hell, I'm sure they'd jump at the chance of getting Xcloud apps on Switch or PlayStation if Nintendo or Sony would play ball.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 19:55 |
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Microsoft could easily help all games work on Steam OS if they wanted to, I mean it's literally their APIs that games in windows run on and that developers have reverse engineered. Also I doubt MS wants gamepass to run on all platforms, it's big talk, but never comes to much. Rusty fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Mar 2, 2022 |
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And I'm sure I saw an article where gabe said valve was open to working with microsoft to support gamepass on steam. Valve's motive was just to have a divorced os room in case ms pulls some kind of hard drm lock or anything.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:01 |
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Veotax posted:Microsoft doesn't care where you play their games, so long as you're giving them money. If they can get Gamepass on Steam, they'll do it. Hell, I'm sure they'd jump at the chance of getting Xcloud apps on Switch or PlayStation if Nintendo or Sony would play ball. yeah for real
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:06 |
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Veotax posted:Microsoft doesn't care where you play their games, so long as you're giving them money. If they can get Gamepass on Steam, they'll do it. Hell, I'm sure they'd jump at the chance of getting Xcloud apps on Switch or PlayStation if Nintendo or Sony would play ball. Microsoft absolutely does care where you play games or use any kind of software at all, they want the only possible way for you to run a program is by renting it from their app store and any platform that doesn't force you to rent your software from Microsoft is an obstacle to that goal. Microsoft doesn't want iOS to exist, they don't want Android to exist, they don't want PlayStations to exist, or Switches or Rokus or smart TVs or Stadia or Steam Decks or literally any kind of device that gives revenue to any other company besides Microsoft. If you don't understand this then you don't understand capitalism.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:09 |
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...revenue would go to Microsoft if Game Pass is on Steam. the number crunchers at Microsoft understand that having their stuff on as many platforms as possible = more $$ for them. hardware has always been a loss leader for them also you do realize that windows phone doesn't exist anymore right The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Mar 2, 2022 |
# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:12 |
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Slay the Spire: I couldn't get controller to work at all for some reason; even with it enabled in the game's own options and using the default Steam controller config it didn't seem to respond to any buttons. I might be missing something? I hadn't noticed the Touchscreen mode in the options, though. That does seem to make it play better with touch, though I still get some slight oddities, like cards occasionally grabbing selection for no obvious reason.Heran Bago posted:If you're doing Slay the Spire touch screen tests, could you please try Dicey Dungeons if you have it? I've been waiting for a fix to the 'end turn' button issue that skips your turn. Here is a description: This seems to work fine, I'm not getting any skipped turns. I feel like the Deck may be using the screen like a mouse emulator in DD rather than a true touchscreen, so that might explain the difference? It leaves behind a mouse cursor wherever you touch, for example, which presumably native touchscreen behaviour wouldn't.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:12 |
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I was mostly joking about the tinfoil MS comment but there is also truth in it. MS does dumb stupid poo poo all the time, or shall I point to how they desperately want to force you to use Edge? They will just as easily do the same Games for Windows Live poo poo in the future. Don't confuse what is the best for the company with what will actually happen. Yeah, they should just want to sell as many Gamepass subscriptions as possible but hubris and corporate in-fighting and ego always gets in the way.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:14 |
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The gamepass store is still awful on PC and just barely out of the stage where they have proprietary installs and still use different versions of games for some reason. They have had years with it and there is no indication they care about other platforms. Also Spencer praising the deck is funny considering that not all games work because of DirectX APIs being tied to Windows.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:18 |
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Their store is so poo poo a sizable number of people are willing to pay an order of magnitude more for a single game rather than a subscription.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:21 |
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pseudorandom name posted:Microsoft absolutely does care where you play games or use any kind of software at all, they want the only possible way for you to run a program is by renting it from their app store and any platform that doesn't force you to rent your software from Microsoft is an obstacle to that goal. You should look up what truism is and then stop posting about loving capitalism in a thread about a nerd gadget.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:30 |
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Vic posted:You should look up what truism is and then stop posting about loving capitalism in a thread about a nerd gadget. As somebody who works in tech: they're right. None of the tech majors, nor a significant portion of smaller firms, want open ecosystems right now, they all want their own walled garden because those are incredibly lucrative. The only limiting factor is that they don't want to look too consumer-hostile. Game pass might or might not end up on other platforms, but Microsoft as a whole would very much rather other operating systems and/or gaming platforms not exist, despite any lip service paid to "open platforms".
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:41 |
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pseudorandom name posted:You do understand the concept of lying, right? ah yes, the constant terrible lies from phil spencer the dude running microsoft's gaming platform for the past 14 years who gives tons of interviews and has a good relationship with customers and press alike and who says microsoft wants to make game pass available on as many platforms as possible??? it's not like microsoft has been telling everyone that that's their strategy you're right, clearly microsoft does not want game pass on other platform, especially not platforms like android and iOS or in a web browser that one might use while running linux I guess the only thing we know for sure is that forums poster psuedorandom name knows best!! Rusty posted:The gamepass store is still awful on PC and just barely out of the stage where they have proprietary installs and still use different versions of games for some reason. They have had years with it and there is no indication they care about other platforms. Also Spencer praising the deck is funny considering that not all games work because of DirectX APIs being tied to Windows. https://www.polygon.com/22776946/xbox-app-pc-windows-microsoft-update-improvements-game-pass quote:As of Thursday, Xbox Insiders get to test out a grab bag of features on PC, including Xbox Cloud Gaming and, for the first time, modding. In addition, the app will also unroll more general improvements: the ability to choose separate drives for game installation, and improvements for download speed, to name a couple. The update is already live for Xbox Insiders to test, and will roll out to the rest of users at a later date. and today they pushed it live for everyone: https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2022/03/01/xbox-game-pass-march-update-2022/?ocid=XGP_soc_omc_xbo_tw_Photo_lrn_3.1.22 quote:First up, a big thank you to all the Xbox Insiders who helped us in the recent round of testing the Xbox app. Because of the great feedback we received, we’re happy to share that the newest Installation and Game Management features are available for the Xbox app on PC! This is what it means for you:
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:42 |
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Samopsa posted:ah yes, the constant terrible lies from phil spencer the dude running microsoft's gaming platform for the past 14 years who gives tons of interviews and has a good relationship with customers and press alike you're just a microsoft shill
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:45 |
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That's why I said barely out of that stage, I am referring to them finally doing win32 installs like they require of everyone else. They still use different versions of some games I believe possibly for encryption so you can't keep when they remove it, but I can't say for sure. What I can say is that for sure want it to be a Windows and Xbox platform. The X-cloud stuff runs on their server farms so it doesn't surprise me they have them on IOS and android, but that is still their business, in fact it's their biggest business, the enterprise server stuff. I am sure MS would like nothing more than to move games in to their Azure cloud.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:47 |
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drat, detective cowman sees right trough my lies! I'm actually phil spencer, welcome to microsofts windows only gaming emperium, dear goons.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:48 |
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Arcsech posted:As somebody who works in tech: they're right. None of the tech majors, nor a significant portion of smaller firms, want open ecosystems right now, they all want their own walled garden because those are incredibly lucrative. The only limiting factor is that they don't want to look too consumer-hostile. Thank you for bringing this secret tech insider information to light. Can you comment on whether or not Microsoft likes profit? I heard rumors that say yes.
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Vic posted:Thank you for bringing this secret tech insider information to light. Can you comment on whether or not Microsoft likes profit? I heard rumors that say yes. Define "profit" if you would please thanks
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Arcsech posted:As somebody who works in tech: they're right. None of the tech majors, nor a significant portion of smaller firms, want open ecosystems right now, they all want their own walled garden because those are incredibly lucrative. The only limiting factor is that they don't want to look too consumer-hostile. Thirding this comment as someone who works in tech. This is why Windows only works on hardware manufactured by Microsoft.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 22:22 |
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Quantum of Phallus posted:
or get out.
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# ? Mar 3, 2022 02:28 |
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thank God a bunch of goons rushed in out of breath to say Game Pass won't ever be available on Steam so it'll happen now
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grieving for Gandalf posted:thank God a bunch of goons rushed in out of breath to say Game Pass won't ever be available on Steam so it'll happen now Before that it was goons rushing in out of breath to say the steam deck was a flop, total failure, can barely run games even!
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# ? Mar 3, 2022 03:35 |
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That's still true and you should cancel your preorders if you are in Q1.
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# ? Mar 3, 2022 03:38 |
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Steam Deck Review if you have small hands and nails and sweaty palms https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErW52_kqr7I
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# ? Mar 3, 2022 06:39 |
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https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/castlevania-advance-collection-works-on-steam-deck-despite-what-konami-say/ to the surprise of no-one.
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# ? Mar 3, 2022 15:02 |
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Courtesy of reddit via google amp, it appears steamos 3 is sort of released. Specifically the image used on the deck. This isn't the full release but a backup image for deck users who may need to fresh install. Reportedly, however, people have gotten it to run inside vbox among others if so inclined. https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/download/?ver=steamdeck&snr=
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# ? Mar 3, 2022 15:41 |
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NRVNQSR posted:This seems to work fine, I'm not getting any skipped turns. I feel like the Deck may be using the screen like a mouse emulator in DD rather than a true touchscreen, so that might explain the difference? It leaves behind a mouse cursor wherever you touch, for example, which presumably native touchscreen behaviour wouldn't. Thank you so much! In Windows it interprets your new touch as a very fast click-and-drag from the "mouse's" "old location" to wherever your finger just went down. If your last input was a tap on the 'end turn' button and your turn comes up you're hosed. Now I'm actually excited for this thing.
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Heran Bago posted:Thank you so much! In Windows it interprets your new touch as a very fast click-and-drag from the "mouse's" "old location" to wherever your finger just went down. If your last input was a tap on the 'end turn' button and your turn comes up you're hosed. Yeah, that seems to be fine using the Deck's touchscreen. I can see the "End turn" button with a hover highlight at the start of my turn, when I tap or drag elsewhere the highlight goes away without ending the turn, so it doesn't seem like there's an extra click on the old position.
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SteamOS takes up 30 gigs which kinda seems like a lot.
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