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wait wasn't it miliband who lost scotland, mostly on the back of the fallout from the indyref?
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ThomasPaine posted:wait wasn't it miliband who lost scotland, mostly on the back of the fallout from the indyref? BUT CORBYN
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Mar 3, 2022 20:53
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I rescued a dog today so that is my productive thing done for the next month or so.
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Mar 3, 2022 21:05
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OwlFancier posted:I rescued a dog today so that is my productive thing done for the next month or so. Please elaborate on this happy story.
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Mar 3, 2022 21:08
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I was going back to my car from a call and it was wandering around the village, so I followed it for a bit because I wasn't sure if someone was walking it, but nobody turned up, seemed a bit skittish, but eventually it led me to a pub and sort of looked at me like "please open the door for me" so I did and apparently the landlady had gone out for a smoke and forgot the dog had gone with her, so she was glad to get him back. Hopefully the lad was just nervous cos he was stuck outside. Mostly I just didn't want him to get hit by a car cos it was near a busy road. Seems a bit negligent but I dunno, hopefully they will be more careful next time. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Mar 3, 2022 |
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Mar 3, 2022 21:16
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OwlFancier posted:I was going back to my car from a call and it was wandering around the village, so I followed it for a bit because I wasn't sure if someone was walking it, but nobody turned up, seemed a bit skittish, but eventually it led me to a pub and sort of looked at me like "please open the door for me" so I did and apparently the landlady had gone out for a smoke and forgot the dog had gone with her, so she was glad to get him back. Hopefully the lad was just nervous cos he was stuck outside. Mostly I just didn't want him to get hit by a car cos it was near a busy road. thank you for being a dagfriend
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Mar 3, 2022 21:20
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https://twitter.com/ukiswitheu/status/1499416397297987587
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OwlFancier posted:I was going back to my car from a call and it was wandering around the village, so I followed it for a bit because I wasn't sure if someone was walking it, but nobody turned up, seemed a bit skittish, but eventually it led me to a pub and sort of looked at me like "please open the door for me" so I did and apparently the landlady had gone out for a smoke and forgot the dog had gone with her, so she was glad to get him back. Hopefully the lad was just nervous cos he was stuck outside. Mostly I just didn't want him to get hit by a car cos it was near a busy road. Your High Fantasy Name is now Owlfancier Dogfriend.
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Mar 3, 2022 21:26
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:There were some white chocolate ones of those for a while, I'm sure it was Home Bargains I used to get them from. No more though Because of this thread I bought the Cookies and Cream ones today and they're so good I always almost tempted to let my dog have one to share the love (I gave her some cheese instead, she didn't complain).
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Gorn Myson posted:Check Co-Op if you have one nearby. They're always in mine and they're always on sale. If I knew you better I'd be tempted to pilgrimage to mind one and send you a bunch. There is a co-op locally (but a bit out of my way) so it might have been there that I bought them. Haven't been there since the covid lockdowns started! ^^^ well done OF!
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ThomasPaine posted:wait wasn't it miliband who lost scotland, mostly on the back of the fallout from the indyref? The collapse started in 2007, was slightly forestalled in '10's general election, but it's not all on the shoulders of Labour. The real killing stroke was the independence referendum but the rot had set in well before then. Unlike Jeherrin & Scottish Labour I think that saying Scottish Labour collapsed because of independence is reductive bollocks. The rot started decades ago when Labour were effectively the only party in the most populated parts of the country, so eventually all the grifters & careerists join in & places like Glasgow City Council (& its predecessors) became corrupt as hell & just deeply complacent, even as the East End remained one of the poorest parts of western Europe with one of the lowest life expectancy (I think it might be #1 now for low life expectancy?). The councillors & MPs were often pure loving chancers at best. For every Gordon Brown who actually had a brain inside his skull there were several dozens of people like George Galloway who only bothered to turn up in his constituency when it was time to campaign for re-election & otherwise just didn't give much of a gently caress even as he espoused socialism. Scottish Labour didn't even really have the thing that New Labour down south had where people who in their youth were quite radical turned into loving monsters, like David Blunkett possibly most notably. Even in the decade between the devo referendum & Labour losing power in Scotland they had 2 First Ministers resign in dodgy dealing circumstances (although next to some of the poo poo Boris has pulled it's pretty quaint stuff). There was only a gap for the SNP to fill because of the staggeringly complacency of ScotLab: look at George Robertson's famous quote in 1995, "Devolution will kill Nationalism stone dead". Woops. But gently caress, look at the context of 1995, the Nats had 3 MPs, I'm pretty sure the most they'd had between 1979 & 2015 was 6 (in 74 they won 11 seats, & that was when Scotland had more than 70 MPs). They have only been able to make independence a wedge issue because Scottish Labour have been completely moribund. ScotLab made these circumstances for themselves & between the Blairite attitude of chasing Tory voters in the south east at the expense of lifelong Labour voters in the north of England & Central Belt because "who else do they have to vote for" & the sheer loving lack of talent on their benches (seriously, look at the people who've been party leader north of the border, it's nonentity after nonentity, people lacking charisma, presence, sincerity, ideas or anything else but a sense of entitlement that Labour are the party of government in Scotland & so it'll ever be) because most of the prominent Labour MPs decided to stay at Westminster as Holyrood was viewed as a backwater. And one of the few MPs who wanted to stand for Holyrood, Dennis Canavan, was turned down because he was in the Socialist Campaign Group & you know what New Labour was like. So he ran as an independent and absolutely skelpt the official Labour candidate, getting 55% of the vote while the Blairite approved chancer Ross Martin got 18%. And when Canavan retired in 2007 SNP have won the constituency every time; Labour's chances were scuppered because of right wingers being more obsessed with crushing factional rivals than anything else. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Mar 3, 2022 |
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Jeherrin posted:BUT CORBYN Now you be a good MP or the Corbyn will eat you all up! OwlFancier posted:I rescued a dog today so that is my productive thing done for the next month or so. Well isn't that a lovely thing.
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Hard to imagine george galloway as a labour MP tbh. Had to imagine him as an MP full stop actually and yet he has been.
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Mar 3, 2022 22:34
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OwlFancier posted:I was going back to my car from a call and it was wandering around the village, so I followed it for a bit because I wasn't sure if someone was walking it, but nobody turned up, seemed a bit skittish, but eventually it led me to a pub and sort of looked at me like "please open the door for me" so I did and apparently the landlady had gone out for a smoke and forgot the dog had gone with her, so she was glad to get him back. Hopefully the lad was just nervous cos he was stuck outside. Mostly I just didn't want him to get hit by a car cos it was near a busy road. You have my appreciation, lovely job. 
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Mar 3, 2022 22:36
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OwlFancier posted:Hard to imagine george galloway as a labour MP tbh. I've friends who had him as their MP in both Glasgow & London & they both have exactly the same thing to say about him: would only show up when there was an election to fight, & he'd turn up on an open-top double decker bus (I think that detail is right at least) with a microphone & loudspeaker so he couldn't yell at folk to vote for him without risking talking to the plebs. He was probably a sincere socialist at one point but god that was a long time ago & the man has been on an ego trip that puts most MPs to shame
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Mar 3, 2022 22:47
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It's more just that he seems crackers every time I've actually seen him. Like advanced posting brain kind of loopy. Which I know is something you can acquire over time I just have a hard time imagining him being able to go more than five minutes without going on about extremely online weird left conspiracy nonsense. I dunno, maybe he was always like that and some people just interpret that as being a good MP. It certainly works for the tories apparently.
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Mar 3, 2022 22:50
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I totally agree with most of this, but I think you're describing a slow process of decay that would probably have continued until ScotLab are where they are now, but over a much longer period. I do think the indyref being in fresh memory really was the nail in the coffin in 2015 because it showed just how nakedly cynical they were and handed the SNP all the ammunition they could have hoped for as well as a persuasive argument that they were the only major pro indy party. I may be wrong but I don't see Labour seats swinging SNP that aggressively in any other situation. Was funny to watch though, like watching dominoes, especially as I was in the room with a total new labourite who was almost sobbing the whole night.
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forkboy84 posted:I've friends who had him as their MP in both Glasgow & London & they both have exactly the same thing to say about him: would only show up when there was an election to fight, & he'd turn up on an open-top double decker bus (I think that detail is right at least) with a microphone & loudspeaker so he couldn't yell at folk to vote for him without risking talking to the plebs. I went to a protest outside Downing Street in I think 2016, and Galloway turned up in his open-top bus and tried to address the protestors. Except it was outside Downing Street so he couldn't stop, and had to settle for a short series of slow drive-bys where he got loudly booed.
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I wonder if he just went everywhere in the bus, like he bought the bus and just refused to use other forms of transport and just yelled at people constantly.
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Mar 3, 2022 23:26
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who is walking out? Corbyn blew it all. sent us down the wrong timeline when he said 7/10
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keep punching joe posted:Pretty sure Brookside ended with a siege of armed robbers holed up in the close climaxing in a helicopter crash. Nah I thought I remembered something different and I just looked it up, I was right. I never actually watched *any* of Brookside at all. Like not a single episode, but I did watch the final episode just because it was repeated late at night and I thought it sounded interesting to watch the final ep of a long-running soap. I didn't have any idea who anybody was but it was actually quite good! The residents ganged up to murder a drug dealer who'd moved into the area(!): quote:On the advice of Barry Grant, a gangster from the glory days, the remaining residents formed a cooperative to murder a drug dealer, who had moved into the close. This would spread the blame, confuse the issue and strike a blow, well several actually, for solidarity. Barry himself sent his apologies, having a prior commitment to kill the men who killed his brother 15 years ago. The drug dealer was duly hanged from his bedroom window, which gave the milkman a nasty turn, and the murderers went on their way rejoicing - or at least, for Brookside, in a mood of quite unaccustomed cheeriness. They showed no guilt, the police showed no interest and the press never showed at all.
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OwlFancier posted:Hard to imagine george galloway as a labour MP tbh. When the barrier to entry is "oval office" it sort of fits. Expecially with all the narcissism points
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Corbyn blew it all. sent us down the wrong timeline when he said 7/10 He was right though tbh
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ThomasPaine posted:He was right though tbh yeah but 7/10 is like 3-5 better than we would ever otherwise get
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https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1499472481786159104 Probably just a little bit of expectation management because they were polling >50%, I don't think the seat's in danger, but weird how bad weather is suddenly an issue, surely they've got loads of volunteers up there to get out the vote?
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Mar 4, 2022 00:12
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Here's hoping he can continue the trend of losing votes in every election.
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To be fair the weather here has been pretty foul. Not raining that hard, just generally a miserable vibe
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Am I right in thinking that Gavin Williamson got his knighthood due to him once being a Chief Whip, and knowing where all the bodies are buried? If so, it's a little coincidental that he's been knighted when the world is focussing on Russia and Oligarch cash, isn't it? lol
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goddamnedtwisto posted:https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1499472481786159104 Less than 55% would be embarassing, less than 50% a disaster, losing the seat should see Starmer dragged through the streets but it'll actually be the Jam Man's fault (or Militant Dave)
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Services to harming the education of the poor. He has done as much as anyone to deserve a knighthood
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fuctifino posted:Am I right in thinking that Gavin Williamson got his knighthood due to him once being a Chief Whip, and knowing where all the bodies are buried? theres no way he's in on that russia should bloody well shut up and go away
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Dabir posted:To be fair the weather here has been pretty foul. Not raining that hard, just generally a miserable vibe It wasn't exactly tropical on December 12th 2019. (I even avoided the obvious Birmingham/miserable vibe joke!)
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jiggerypokery posted:He has done as much as anyone to deserve a knighthood
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https://twitter.com/SPOMorain/status/1499547314561683462?s=20&t=kbe3taL-_3HqClep4vtmVw Not that surprising for a by-election though is it?
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Dabir posted:To be fair the weather here has been pretty foul. Not raining that hard, just generally a miserable vibe
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TACD posted:UK baseline weather then For real. I didn't appreciate just how grey and miserable the UK really is in the winter before moving to Canada. It's colder here and we get snow but we also get a lot of clear, bright (but cold) days in the winter here, and the summers are proper hot, sunny summers.
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Since he was mentioned, and he’s not been around for a while so I can feel a bit better about poo poo-talking him, am I the only one who was freaked out by Coohoolin’s almost pitch-perfect Scottish accent when they first heard him on Podcasting is Praxis? He’d only been living there a few years by that point - this suggests he was obsessively working on his accent to get it correct, maybe recording himself and playing it back so he could finesse it. I feel kind of lovely for complaining about an immigrant integrating too well, but it’s just weird, right?
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Comrade Fakename posted:Since he was mentioned, and he’s not been around for a while so I can feel a bit better about poo poo-talking him, am I the only one who was freaked out by Coohoolin’s almost pitch-perfect Scottish accent when they first heard him on Podcasting is Praxis? He’d only been living there a few years by that point - this suggests he was obsessively working on his accent to get it correct, maybe recording himself and playing it back so he could finesse it. I feel kind of lovely for complaining about an immigrant integrating too well, but it’s just weird, right? i don't remember that poster (though perhaps that's good given the posts here) but it seems weird to assume someone was obsessively working on an accent (i mean the scenario you're imagining is sorta involved); some people have a knack for mimicry i guess it's possible, but even if, who cares?
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Great video by Shaun tearing apart the politics in Harry Potter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1iaJWSwUZs
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